Josh Allen - week EIGHT report card

[Jrb1979]

4 minutes ago, zow2 said:

I think it's pretty obvious with regards to Josh.  The coaching staff saw a bit of an out-of-control Ferrari driving around last season and it was risky, so they put the restrictor plates on for 2019.  They coached Josh to stop running around at every breakdown, and hang there in the pocket to scan the field. They will call some designed runs as to not completely shut down the athlete.. but they've told him to stop scrambling so much (which i think he is awesome at doing).

 

In my opinion, they've gone too far the opposite direction.  There has to be a happy medium.  If JA was a really accurate QB from the pocket maybe it would work.  But he's not, and he's not great yet at recognizing defenses...he's taking too long to make a decision.  The coaches have him so terrified of making a mistake (kinda like Marrone did to EJ Manuel) that he's paralyzed to make a play or try to fit it in a tight window.

 

Last week the Bills had 7 drives that totaled 21 yards.   It's too hard to be consistent with 10 play scoring drives..  too many negatives can happen out of the QB's control (penalties, drops, turnovers, bad snaps, etc..).

 

Basically the coaches have asked him to be an 8-10 play drive manager, or it's 3 and out.    Time to cut him loose and let him be Josh Allen, the exciting QB.

Yeah let him loose and I think the results aren't going to much better. I don't think Allen will ever be a great pocket passer or great at reading defense. He plays his best when he runs around. The thing that scares me about that is one of these times he will be running and get destroyed. Its happened once against the Pats it will happen again. When guys get a chance for a hit on a QB they will take. Bills fans should be happy its not the Rockpile days, he would have been lot up a long time ago. 

[Royale with Cheese]

Just now, Hebert19 said:

300 yards will never be the plan for this coach and this team.  If it happens it's by accident. We like to control the ball and the ideal game is 150 on the ground and 250 in the air.  32+ min in top.

 

I don't think we draft someone at #7, with his big arm and playmaking ability to control the game.  At 250 a game, that's a 4,000 yard season which is in the top 10.

 

Allen is currently at 213 a game which is a slight improvement over Tyrod...the QB we moved on from because we couldn't move the ball in the air very well.

 

 

[zow2]

2 minutes ago, Hebert19 said:

300 yards will never be the plan for this coach and this team.  If it happens it's by accident. We like to control the ball and the ideal game is 150 on the ground and 250 in the air.  32+ min in top.

 

I think that passing narrative works for a team/QB that has never done it.  They may NEED to pass a bunch vs. Washington.  They certainly needed to vs. Philly but the weather was never going to allow that.

 

But they're 5-2 so if they keep winning with the run first /dink & dunk recipe I'm fine with that.

[Jrb1979]

5 minutes ago, Hebert19 said:

300 yards will never be the plan for this coach and this team.  If it happens it's by accident. We like to control the ball and the ideal game is 150 on the ground and 250 in the air.  32+ min in top.

Good luck winning a lot of games in this league playing that way. Your offense has to be able to score in bunches sometimes and I have my doubts Allen or the offense will ever be able to do it. 

[Hebert19]

1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

I don't think we draft someone at #7, with his big arm and playmaking ability to control the game.  At 250 a game, that's a 4,000 yard season which is in the top 10.

 

Allen is currently at 213 a game which is a slight improvement over Tyrod...the QB we moved on from because we couldn't move the ball in the air very well.

 

 

Well we play in buffalo.  And wind rain snow etc are inevitable.  So having a guy with a big arm is needed but having a running game and a QB that is an athlete is also a must. 

[Royale with Cheese]

5 minutes ago, Hebert19 said:

Well we play in buffalo.  And wind rain snow etc are inevitable.  So having a guy with a big arm is needed but having a running game and a QB that is an athlete is also a must. 

 

I'm not even sure if we play on average, 1 snow game a year.  Same with rain.  

1 game a year shouldn't affect 15 other games.  We aren't moving the ball in the air in perfect 70 degree weather.

[dakrider]

21 minutes ago, zow2 said:

I think it's pretty obvious with regards to Josh.  The coaching staff saw a bit of an out-of-control Ferrari driving around last season and it was risky, so they put the restrictor plates on for 2019.  They coached Josh to stop running around at every breakdown, and hang there in the pocket to scan the field. They will call some designed runs as to not completely shut down the athlete.. but they've told him to stop scrambling so much (which i think he is awesome at doing).

 

In my opinion, they've gone too far the opposite direction.  There has to be a happy medium.  If JA was a really accurate QB from the pocket maybe it would work.  But he's not, and he's not great yet at recognizing defenses...he's taking too long to make a decision.  The coaches have him so terrified of making a mistake (kinda like Marrone did to EJ Manuel) that he's paralyzed to make a play or try to fit it in a tight window.

 

Last week the Bills had 7 drives that totaled 21 yards.   It's too hard to be consistent with 10 play scoring drives..  too many negatives can happen out of the QB's control (penalties, drops, turnovers, bad snaps, etc..).

 

Basically the coaches have asked him to be an 8-10 play drive manager, or it's 3 and out.    Time to cut him loose and let him be Josh Allen, the exciting QB.

Bills rely on the defense to much, would rather punt than take a risk and then put the pressure back on the defense to get a stop.    That will work against the poorer teams but their going to have to open it up more on offense.  Can't expect to win every game 17-13

[Bobby Hooks]

I might be in the minority but i don't see this game being on Allen at all. The only time we did anything on offense is when he ran out of his head trying not to be killed. 

I'll be the first to blame the QB when he is at fault but this one was on the o-line, and the run D. 

 

I honestly believe Allen's struggle are stemming from misuse. 

 

I think we need to accept who he is and let him play. He's at his best when the offense is moving fast, he's in the zone (out of his head), and he can be creative. Daboll's overthinking it. Dial up some pass plays and if it's not open let Allen do Allen things. He's 10x better when he's running off his competitiveness and fire. 

 

Will it come with some hiccups? Of course. Will he turn the ball over, of course. But i think it'll come with loads of fun and td's too. 

 

You picked him, now let him do his thing.

 

 

 

Edited October 30, 2019 by Bobby Hooks

[Big Gun]

I get a chuckle out of the people who are done with Allen and proclaim he's not the answer after 18 starts yet some of these same people still make excuses for 3rd year McDermott and want to give him more time. 

[reddogblitz]

On 10/28/2019 at 5:34 AM, BillsBlue said:

Trust me the weather was terrible.

 

I was at the game. The weather was terrible for the Eagles too yet they managed to score 31 points.

 

I also remember being told many times that we needed Allen because he has a strong arm which is needed for strong swirling Ralph winds.  Bouncing passes into RBs and underthrowing a wide open WR with the wind at his back is concerning.

 

And he seriously needs to shake the fumblitis.

 

Good news is there is another game Sunday.

 

Go BILLS !!!!

[billsfan_34]

On 10/28/2019 at 8:32 AM, rayray808 said:

 

I turned to the guy next to me and we both agreed that Daboll should rip that play out of the playbook already, it has yet to yield good results

Dabs thinks he is back in Alabama- that play is seen it college over and over- keep it there.

[SoTier]

On 10/28/2019 at 9:57 AM, zow2 said:

How many 200 yard, 2 TD games do we get to watch before we see our franchise QB throw a 300 yard, 3 TD game?!?   When can we have an offense that can bail out the defense?  You see a guy come off the couch in Atlanta and throw 450... you see Bridgewater who hadn't played in a couple years throw for 350 and 4 TD's..  you have Daniel Jones tossing multiple 300 yd games already.. Minshew, etc..

 

Not saying Josh should have thrown for 300 and 3 TDs  in those weather conditions yesterday, but c'mon.  Stop with the excuses.  Time to grow up.  After the Singletary TD, there was ample opportunity to get chunk passing yards on screen plays and they still couldn't do it.  

 

I don't care as much about the designed run fumble yesterday,  I care more that when Allen stands in the pocket and scans the field, a lot of bad things happen.  That's very concerning.

 

The lack of 300 games isn't on Allen as much as it's on the coaching staff and the front office.  Except for Allen, most of the resources have gone to the defense, and the crows are coming home to roost.   If you want a good offense, you have to have good/great skill players to execute it.  You have to have imaginative play design.  You have to have a philosophy that expects a TD on every drive.   Most of the players around Allen aren't good enough.  The offensive coaching isn't good enough.  The philosophy of playing offense not to lose isn't good enough.  How much better would Allen be if he could depend upon Robert Woods, Marquise Goodwin, and Sammy Watkins to get open and catch anything he threw in their vicinity?

 

TBH, the Bills offense looks much like it has in the past under previous regimes -- just not good enough.

 

 

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

4 minutes ago, SoTier said:

 

The lack of 300 games isn't on Allen as much as it's on the coaching staff and the front office.  Except for Allen, most of the resources have gone to the defense, and the crows are coming home to roost.   If you want a good offense, you have to have good/great skill players to execute it.  You have to have imaginative play design.  You have to have a philosophy that expects a TD on every drive.   Most of the players around Allen aren't good enough.  The offensive coaching isn't good enough.  The philosophy of playing offense not to lose isn't good enough.  How much better would Allen be if he could depend upon Robert Woods, Marquise Goodwin, and Sammy Watkins to get open and catch anything he threw in their vicinity?

 

TBH, the Bills offense looks much like it has in the past under previous regimes -- just not good enough.

 

 

Good post!

3 hours ago, Bobby Hooks said:

I might be in the minority but i don't see this game being on Allen at all. The only time we did anything on offense is when he ran out of his head trying not to be killed. 

I'll be the first to blame the QB when he is at fault but this one was on the o-line, and the run D. 

 

I honestly believe Allen's struggle are stemming from misuse. 

 

I think we need to accept who he is and let him play. He's at his best when the offense is moving fast, he's in the zone (out of his head), and he can be creative. Daboll's overthinking it. Dial up some pass plays and if it's not open let Allen do Allen things. He's 10x better when he's running off his competitiveness and fire. 

 

Will it come with some hiccups? Of course. Will he turn the ball over, of course. But i think it'll come with loads of fun and td's too. 

 

You picked him, now let him do his thing.

 

 

 

I can't stand how slow we move on offense, I feel like we are always protecting the defense. McD lets keep the pace slow and limit possessions.

Edited October 30, 2019 by D. L. Hot-Flamethrower

[Jrb1979]

1 minute ago, SoTier said:

 

The lack of 300 games isn't on Allen as much as it's on the coaching staff and the front office.  Except for Allen, most of the resources have gone to the defense, and the crows are coming home to roost.   If you want a good offense, you have to have good/great skill players to execute it.  You have to have imaginative play design.  You have to have a philosophy that expects a TD on every drive.   Most of the players around Allen aren't good enough.  The offensive coaching isn't good enough.  The philosophy of playing offense not to lose isn't good enough.  How much better would Allen be if he could depend upon Robert Woods, Marquise Goodwin, and Sammy Watkins to get open and catch anything he threw in their vicinity?

 

TBH, the Bills offense looks much like it has in the past under previous regimes -- just not good enough.

 

 

A good to great QB will make the offense better regardless of the talent around him. The Bills best bet is to let Allen be Allen and hope for the best. The best offenses in this league are able to score in bunches. Something the Bills haven't been able to do in a long time. Part of me thinks it will never happen cause the coach likes a more conservative approach. 

[reddogblitz]

3 minutes ago, SoTier said:

 

The lack of 300 games isn't on Allen as much as it's on the coaching staff and the front office.  Except for Allen, most of the resources have gone to the defense, and the crows are coming home to roost.   If you want a good offense, you have to have good/great skill players to execute it.  You have to have imaginative play design.  You have to have a philosophy that expects a TD on every drive.   Most of the players around Allen aren't good enough.  The offensive coaching isn't good enough.  The philosophy of playing offense not to lose isn't good enough.  How much better would Allen be if he could depend upon Robert Woods, Marquise Goodwin, and Sammy Watkins to get open and catch anything he threw in their vicinity?

 

TBH, the Bills offense looks much like it has in the past under previous regimes -- just not good enough.

 

 

 

Reminds me of the  Coach Moron era teams.  Especially 2014.

[Jrb1979]

4 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:

Good post!

I can't stand how slow we move on offense, I feel like we are always protecting the defense. McD lets keep the pace slow and limit possessions.

I don't see that ever changing til McD gets rid of his Rockpile days philosophy and joins the modern NFL

[DCofNC]

On 10/28/2019 at 9:57 AM, zow2 said:

How many 200 yard, 2 TD games do we get to watch before we see our franchise QB throw a 300 yard, 3 TD game?!?   When can we have an offense that can bail out the defense?  You see a guy come off the couch in Atlanta and throw 450... you see Bridgewater who hadn't played in a couple years throw for 350 and 4 TD's..  you have Daniel Jones tossing multiple 300 yd games already.. Minshew, etc..

 

Not saying Josh should have thrown for 300 and 3 TDs  in those weather conditions yesterday, but c'mon.  Stop with the excuses.  Time to grow up.  After the Singletary TD, there was ample opportunity to get chunk passing yards on screen plays and they still couldn't do it.  

 

I don't care as much about the designed run fumble yesterday,  I care more that when Allen stands in the pocket and scans the field, a lot of bad things happen.  That's very concerning.

Could we at least have the 200 yard part?   He's a bad passer in this league, nobody wants to hear it, but the facts are mounting to the point of undeniable.  In virtually every game he has missed easy throws that would have put him over 300 yards and more importantly lead to scores so the need for these crazy comebacks against bottom feeders weren't needed. 

[DCofNC]

1 hour ago, SoTier said:

 

The lack of 300 games isn't on Allen as much as it's on the coaching staff and the front office.  Except for Allen, most of the resources have gone to the defense, and the crows are coming home to roost.   If you want a good offense, you have to have good/great skill players to execute it.  You have to have imaginative play design.  You have to have a philosophy that expects a TD on every drive.   Most of the players around Allen aren't good enough.  The offensive coaching isn't good enough.  The philosophy of playing offense not to lose isn't good enough.  How much better would Allen be if he could depend upon Robert Woods, Marquise Goodwin, and Sammy Watkins to get open and catch anything he threw in their vicinity?

 

TBH, the Bills offense looks much like it has in the past under previous regimes -- just not good enough.

 

 

You have a solid point, but I still contend this is more philosophy than personnel, both Beasley and Smoke can be 1000 yard guys, you have competent TEs and a line that's about average.  If Daniel Jones can drop 300 yards with FAR less, as a rookie, there is no excuse.  I never cared fir the Daboll hire in the first place and now we look at it and ask, is he a genius handicapped by Allen or is Allen being put in a box by this scheme?  Truthfully, I think Allen could be the most infuriating guy on the planet if they just let him play.  I could see him throwing for 400 yards and running for another 100 one game and barely able to get out of his own way on others, ya know, much like college.  Now we get nothing but mediocre.  That's coaching and thats execution.  I think Allen is better than the scheme makes him look.  I feel he has taken a major step backwards this year.  If you notice, he generally plays well in the hurry-up when his brain gets out of the way and he just plays ball, but they won't let it happen.

[section122]

On 10/28/2019 at 11:38 AM, HappyDays said:

 

That was entirely on Foster. He sped up instead of adjusting to the ball. This is a problem he's had going back to last year. A decent WR catches that uncontested. Especially in wind conditions like that you have to track the ball better.

 

Thank you!  I watched it a couple of times because I thought that was what I saw on the first watch.  He sped up at the end and that led to the ball being under thrown.  Allen didn't look good to me on Sunday but that one was on Foster imo.

[808]

For all the talk about we drafted josh cause of his arm cause he could play in buffalo weather it hasnt really worked. Now we make an excuse that the weather was bad for him. 
 

also i think he and ej have something in common and it seems they have “slow eyes” he has a stronger arm and gets away with winging things in late. But it seems very similar to ej. And i dont see many saying it that way. 

[Lieutenant Aldo Raine]

16 minutes ago, 808 said:

For all the talk about we drafted josh cause of his arm cause he could play in buffalo weather it hasnt really worked. Now we make an excuse that the weather was bad for him. 
 

also i think he and ej have something in common and it seems they have “slow eyes” he has a stronger arm and gets away with winging things in late. But it seems very similar to ej. And i dont see many saying it that way. 

 

How about this excuse.  Buffalo sucks at developing and or attracting talent.  

[Nextmanup]

29 minutes ago, 808 said:

For all the talk about we drafted josh cause of his arm cause he could play in buffalo weather it hasnt really worked. Now we make an excuse that the weather was bad for him. 
 

also i think he and ej have something in common and it seems they have “slow eyes” he has a stronger arm and gets away with winging things in late. But it seems very similar to ej. And i dont see many saying it that way. 

Thank you!

 

Funny how folks around here conveniently overlook this.

 

McDermott was all about Allen's big body and big arm and how it would "cut through the wind" blah blah during crap weather in Buffalo, NY.

 

Hasn't really panned out.  He is usually off by about 7 yards on throws over 25 yards as well.

 

[US Egg]

On 10/28/2019 at 8:25 AM, rayray808 said:

WEEK 1: B-

WEEK 2: B

WEEK 3: C+

WEEK 4: F

WEEK 5: B+

WEEK 7: B

WEEK 8: D+

In other words, barely average.

[BobbyC81]

On 10/28/2019 at 5:25 AM, rayray808 said:

WEEK 1: B-

WEEK 2: B

WEEK 3: C+

WEEK 4: F

WEEK 5: B+

WEEK 7: B

 

WEEK 8: D+

 

16/34 - 169 yards - 2 TD's, 45 yards rushing, fumble

 

 

I believe I saw at one point Josh was 16 for 25.  So, he missed his last 9 attempts?

[Pokebball]

On 10/28/2019 at 8:35 AM, VADC Bills said:

His performance is a D due to mistakes at critical times.

I think we tend to be  very kind to Josh because he is young and we so desperately want to anoint someone as the next Jim Kelly we tend to sugarcoat the obvious.

• He needs to know the playbook better so he can under stand quickly where his receivers are.
• Jordan Palmer stated he was working with Josh regarding anticipating what his receivers are going to do during the off season, this is still an issue with Josh.This is clearly evident when Matt Barkley comes in during a JA injury it seems as though the whole field opens up although JA has a better arm he doesn't see the field as good. We will never regularly score 20 pts a game or have 300 passing yard games until this happens. ( The Tyrod comparisons aren't far off)
• Notice how Carson Wentz was throwing screens and swing passes. This is how coaching can manage the game for a young QB. This should be part of the game plan from the beginning of the game and not a halftime adjustment. Our coaching staff feels Josh is a little better than what he is at this point.
• He needs better focus so some of these fumbles can be avoided.

I remember there was a time not long ago when QB's took 2-3 years to develop ( Drew Brees, Payton Manning, Aaron Rodgers) Josh is going to be one of these guys..hopefully because there is a lot of upside here but don't be afraid to draft a QB in round 3 next year.

 

I tend to be kind to Josh, not because he's young, but because the guys around him on that side of the ball need to improve in so many ways.  I can't blame all of the offensive woes on one guy.

[reddogblitz]

34 minutes ago, BUFFALOBART said:

McD is turning Josh Allen into Tyrod Taylor 2.0

 

Josh is a better runner though.

[DuckyBoys]

1 hour ago, BUFFALOBART said:

I'm wondering if the kid has major doubts about the play calling. Josh didn't look like his usual enthusiastic self in the 4th qtr.

McD is turning Josh Allen into Tyrod Taylor 2.0

Feels like it .   To Me Allen looked off in his demeanor right from the start like he knew the gameplan and was not into it.  If McDermott wants to play it safe run the ball and go play action from a pro set  Right now  I hate this shotgun small ball thing were running.  I'm still hopeful the offense improves as the season goes on but it looks like were talent deficient again on offense..  We simply dont have any scary players on offense that can dictate to  a defense.  John Brown is nice but if he's the best thing we got going that isnt saying much

[Jrb1979]

40 minutes ago, BUFFALOBART said:

Those stats are haunting though. The Buffalo Bills wrote the book on ruining a quarterback. I hope that Josh isn't the next in line.

If they keep making him a game manager its not going to help him. Seen as they don't think this is their year, they should let Allen loose. Let him play like he was at the end of last year. The worst that happens is he throws more interceptions. Maybe he will learn from it but if not you at least know what you have. 

[mead107]

The nice things about report cards is you can learn and improve. 
 

[BillsBlue]

9 hours ago, reddogblitz said:

 

I was at the game. The weather was terrible for the Eagles too yet they managed to score 31 points.

 

I also remember being told many times that we needed Allen because he has a strong arm which is needed for strong swirling Ralph winds.  Bouncing passes into RBs and underthrowing a wide open WR with the wind at his back is concerning.

 

And he seriously needs to shake the fumblitis.

 

Good news is there is another game Sunday.

 

Go BILLS !!!!

I feel like both the right tackle and right gaurd and left gaurd and left tackle all need to be replaced unfortunately and Morse has looked very average , too many jail breaks on Allen and yes his deep ball has been atrocious this year and I can't understand why. If he's not being gang tackled and jail broke on he wouldn't be fumbling like this because people would be blocking their man instead of being spun in a circle and helping Allen off the ground etc. 

[JESSEFEFFER]

On 10/28/2019 at 9:27 AM, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:

For me, its a C, to be a D I would have to believe he was one of , if not, the primary culprits in the loss. I know the tendency is to say 16-34  he had a low completion. That number is skewed by the late game when we collapsed and he didn't complete his last 9 or 10. The game was over essentially after the 8 minute drive in the fourth. Eagles knew we had to pass, and the offensive line, in particular was like a sieve. I will balance all this by saying, it was pretty much within the parameters of performance we'd expect from Josh prior to the later fourth quarter. He looked especially good on the third quarter TD drive that put us back in it temporarily. He had 2TD and no INTs- which we'll take, but he doesn't escape blame completely, he fumbled and he has to be better with the protecting the fumble. I'm sticking with a C, it's not a good performance, but it's not a huge step back. The team on the other hand........

I left during the 8 minute drive after the Howard run for 15 or so. I felt confidant that a L was coming and I don't want to sit there and see my team fail.  So, I missed the worst parts of his game and have a generally favorable opinion of how he played.  16/24 for 170 was not too bad in those challenging passing conditions. 

I also missed Josh's fumble because I was at a concession stand ordering a hot dog for my son and have yet to replay my DVR of the game.  So, throw in that series of plays that got them fg shot at the end of the half and my eyes saw an A game from Josh.

[SoTier]

15 hours ago, DCofNC said:

You have a solid point, but I still contend this is more philosophy than personnel, both Beasley and Smoke can be 1000 yard guys, you have competent TEs and a line that's about average.  If Daniel Jones can drop 300 yards with FAR less, as a rookie, there is no excuse.  I never cared fir the Daboll hire in the first place and now we look at it and ask, is he a genius handicapped by Allen or is Allen being put in a box by this scheme?  Truthfully, I think Allen could be the most infuriating guy on the planet if they just let him play.  I could see him throwing for 400 yards and running for another 100 one game and barely able to get out of his own way on others, ya know, much like college.  Now we get nothing but mediocre.  That's coaching and thats execution.  I think Allen is better than the scheme makes him look.  I feel he has taken a major step backwards this year.  If you notice, he generally plays well in the hurry-up when his brain gets out of the way and he just plays ball, but they won't let it happen.

 

I whole heartedly agree it's a matter of philosophy.   They are trying to turn a gunslinger QB prospect into a game manager because they play not to lose on offense.  It's depressingly reminiscent of the Jauron era where the Bills took another first round gunslinger propspect with ball security issues, JP Losman, and tried to turn him into a game manager. 

[DCofNC]

16 hours ago, DuckyBoys said:

Feels like it .   To Me Allen looked off in his demeanor right from the start like he knew the gameplan and was not into it.  If McDermott wants to play it safe run the ball and go play action from a pro set  Right now  I hate this shotgun small ball thing were running.  I'm still hopeful the offense improves as the season goes on but it looks like were talent deficient again on offense..  We simply dont have any scary players on offense that can dictate to  a defense.  John Brown is nice but if he's the best thing we got going that isnt saying much

I don't agree with the lack of playmakers.  Gore is a HOF player, yes on the very backend, but he could be doing what AP is doing if you give him the ball.  Singletary is averaging about 73 yards a carry, but apparently isn't worthy of getting more touches for some reason.  Smoke was SCARY when he had a qb who threatened to beat the D.  Beasley is a nusance over the middle and regardless of their gamebreaker status, Knox, Kroft and Sweeney all found big play opportunities.  

 

The coordinator who can't tell if he's trying to be Nick Saban or Billicheat needs to go.  Early in the year, the short stuff worked and moved the ball, as soon as defences moved up and into the lanes he has had NOTHING to counter it.  In games where the Blitz is thrown at him like crazy, refuses to run a screen, tries to run screens against zone coverage.. wtf?!  Run a qb sweep against 10 men in the box. Again, WTF!?   Designing run in general for Allen who has been sloppy as hell with the ball, WTF!?!?!? 

 

Last year Allen threw the ball deep at every opportunity, often for nothing, but he's scared to this year.  They took the best parts oc his game away from him.  Don't use the big arm and stay in the pocket... welp, might as well have kept Peterman.  Why draft a guy who is a dynamic playmaker and try to make him Matt Cassell?  WHAT IS THE POINT?! I am NOT a believer in Allen ever reaching the promised land, but for F☆☆k sake, let him do what made you draft him.  You could not have taken a worst prospect in that draft to run this style of offense.

Edited October 31, 2019 by DCofNC

[jrober38]

It's week 9, we've played 7 games, with 5 of those games coming against teams with a defense ranked 22nd or worse, and Allen is yet to get an A on his report card. 

 

I'm not an Allen guy, but I thought he'd be better than he's been, especially when you reflect on how many opportunities he's had against the NFL's worst defenses. 

 

He and our passing game still need to improve dramatically, which is a concern because so few QBs over the years have made a big jump in their play from year 2 to year 3. 

Edited October 31, 2019 by jrober38

[Don Otreply]

There’s a pooch with KY all over it up at OBD, but who did the screwing??

 

 

next week they will have made sweet love instead, no?

 

Go Bills!!!

[jrober38]

7 hours ago, SoTier said:

 

I whole heartedly agree it's a matter of philosophy.   They are trying to turn a gunslinger QB prospect into a game manager because they play not to lose on offense.  It's depressingly reminiscent of the Jauron era where the Bills took another first round gunslinger propspect with ball security issues, JP Losman, and tried to turn him into a game manager. 

 

Why do people like yourself keep referring to Josh Allen as a gunslinger?

 

I don't get it.