TheFunPolice Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 With the Bills defense showing that they are for real, and with NE being thin at WR with questions swirling about that group, and a 42 year old QB that according to the PatsFans board "looked 62 out there" Sunday, the timing seems right for a late season NE collapse and the Bills to possibly have a shot at the division. BUT We know how this goes: some dumb team will try to save NE by trading them a top WR for a 3rd round pick, or something similar. 2 issues: 1) Which team/WR will have this honor in 2019? The Raiders TRIED but it didn't work out. Someone else will pick up the slack. I could see Arizona (Fitzgerald) or Cincinnati (Green) being the top candidates for this. Perhaps Minnesota as well. 2) Should the Bills outbid NE by a round both to improve their team AND hurt the competition? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvbillsfan Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 I wouldn’t outbid them. Pats window is closing ours is opening. Also they can have all the wide wrs they want. Brady doesn’t have the time or arm to throw the ball past 10 yards outside the numbers. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 (edited) Bengals will be sending Green to them and yes, I would gladly take him over Zay Edited October 1, 2019 by Dablitzkrieg 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 (edited) Trade?! My understanding was each team in the AFC was mandated to gift a WR to the NEP by the trade deadline. Edited October 1, 2019 by Ridgewaycynic2013 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 The Bills dont have to "outbid" the Pats, pats pick will be somewhere between 30-32, something tells me we will be lower than that. Let the Pats bid for an elite WR, Brady can barely get the ball deep to his receivers anyway. AB was a toal luxury for them,they didnt need him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW82 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Absolutely not. For starters, our WR group is fine. We already have the exact type of receivers Josh needs to succeed (i.e. quick, shifty guys who know how to get open so he doesn't have to make as many anticipation throws or always throw with precision). Zay is a problem but Foster can step in if things don't improve. Also, we don't really know whether Josh is going to work out at this stage. We hope he will. Many believe he will, but we don't know for sure. You don't trade high draft picks to go get that one last guy until you're sure you have the right infrastructure in place. We might need to trade for a QB in the off season for all we know. Let's give this team more time to show their true colours before mortgaging our future to pay for a present that might not be realistic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Knee jerk reaction alert. Brady will be back to putting up points next week since he won't be playing our D. That wasn't an off day for Brady, that's a shutdown defense doing it's thing. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 17 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Trade?! My understanding was each team in the AFC was mandated to gift a WR to the NEP by the trade deadline. Plus how many compensatory draft picks due to the other teams’ failure to gift said WRs by close of training camp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjv001 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Why don't we take a page from the Pats strategy book and trade for a top reciever. Arn't we ready to make a run into the playoffs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Pats only have $5 million in Cap space per sportrac...we have $26...seems like they can't fit AJ but we can..... https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 The WR group in the NFL draft is huge next year, I stay pat for now, unless some team is giving away a WR 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Finkel Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 39 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: With the Bills defense showing that they are for real, and with NE being thin at WR with questions swirling about that group, and a 42 year old QB that according to the PatsFans board "looked 62 out there" Sunday, the timing seems right for a late season NE collapse and the Bills to possibly have a shot at the division. BUT We know how this goes: some dumb team will try to save NE by trading them a top WR for a 3rd round pick, or something similar. 2 issues: 1) Which team/WR will have this honor in 2019? The Raiders TRIED but it didn't work out. Someone else will pick up the slack. I could see Arizona (Fitzgerald) or Cincinnati (Green) being the top candidates for this. Perhaps Minnesota as well. 2) Should the Bills outbid NE by a round both to improve their team AND hurt the competition? AJ Green has been hurt all year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessYaDigg Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 A WR isn't going to strengthen Brady's arm or Allen's erratic throws. After this season, cut ties with Zay and take a WR in the next draft class and let's hope that Josh can learn from his mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 41 minutes ago, wvbillsfan said: I wouldn’t outbid them. Pats window is closing ours is opening. Also they can have all the wide wrs they want. Brady doesn’t have the time or arm to throw the ball past 10 yards outside the numbers. Completely agree...let time be the Patriots downfall...yes they have a ridiculous defense but their offense is finally failing. All 16 pts were off turnovers. If they have to go 75 yards we might shut them out? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 25 minutes ago, ProcessAccepted said: Knee jerk reaction alert. Brady will be back to putting up points next week since he won't be playing our D. That wasn't an off day for Brady, that's a shutdown defense doing it's thing. Yes, and as some predicted, the Bills did shut down Brady. He will probably respond with a couple of big games against lesser defenses. Back to business as usual. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo44 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 25 minutes ago, ProcessAccepted said: Knee jerk reaction alert. Brady will be back to putting up points next week since he won't be playing our D. That wasn't an off day for Brady, that's a shutdown defense doing it's thing. This is more likely than not the case. Our defense is that good! I agree, Brady will be back to his old self against Washington. They might put up 50. And I don’t believe that it would be a good move to try to outbid them for a wide receiver particularly just to prevent them from getting one. We have to keep building our team the way we have been over the last two years. If the bills make it to the postseason this year than it is a successful season. Anything after that is gravy. Let the process go on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 13 minutes ago, Ray Finkel said: AJ Green has been hurt all year. and is a FA next year....so his price will be lower....high risk but high reward.....certainly beats hoping some 27 year old practice squad player will suddenly make an impact... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 We need to throw the ball to Dawson Knox more. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 The Pats barely squeezed past Kansas City. They won't get away with it again. The Bills may have something to say about it as well. Just now, wppete said: We need to throw the ball to Dawson Knox more. Absolutely. That was no phantom performance against Cincy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 I dont understand why if we had the opportunity to improve our WR core ppl would be against that Brown is NOT a 1......he is a excellent 2...always has been Cole is a 3 We DONT have a number 1 receiver on this team....I am hoping for one in the next draft but if you can improve the stable....its not a cap problem 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 42 minutes ago, Locomark said: Pats only have $5 million in Cap space per sportrac...we have $26...seems like they can't fit AJ but we can..... https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/ Those f'ktards find a way to beat the system all the time. They didn't have room for AB either and managed to get the space. Pats are on another level when it comes to beating the NFL rules, officiating rules and QB protection. They don't get called for holding and can make Marshall Newhouse look like he's capable when all he is doing is holding. And if all else fails, they will deflate balls or find another way to claw into the playoffs. Truly f'ing vomit worthy. We needed to place some of those b^tches on IR. One more shot and we better clean them up in NE. I want blood stains and chalk outlines of Brady on that field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, BillsRdue said: Those f'ktards find a way to beat the system all the time. They didn't have room for AB either and managed to get the space. Pats are on another level when it comes to beating the NFL rules, officiating rules and QB protection. They don't get called for holding and can make Marshall Newhouse look like he's capable when all he is doing is holding. And if all else fails, they will deflate balls or find another way to claw into the playoffs. Truly f'ing vomit worthy. We needed to place some of those b^tches on IR. One more shot and we better clean them up in NE. I want blood stains and chalk outlines of Brady on that field. Actually they had the room for AB and cutting him is why they won't have the room for Green. The Pats are crafty but something tells me they are not going to subtract 7.725(Green's 10.3 million salary - 4 games) from 5 and come up with a positive number. If they make some cuts and wait a few weeks they might be able to swing it but I don't think Belichick has figured out a way to circumvent the laws of algebra yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 1 hour ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Plus how many compensatory draft picks due to the other teams’ failure to gift said WRs by close of training camp? After further review, the league has determined that due to the compensatory draft picks issued to the New England Patriots, the drafts scheduled for 2020 through 2023 are automatically routed to New England. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 My question is will Denver be willing to trade Von Miller/ Emmanuel Sanders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 41 minutes ago, the skycap said: My question is will Denver be willing to trade Von Miller/ Emmanuel Sanders? I'd take Von Miller. Sanders appears washed-up at this point. ? Although the Den QB situation is a disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Say When... Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 1 hour ago, ProcessAccepted said: Knee jerk reaction alert. Brady will be back to putting up points next week since he won't be playing our D. That wasn't an off day for Brady, that's a shutdown defense doing it's thing. this, this, this, this, did i say this? there was only 1 elite D on that field sunday and it wasn't the Pats*** what they did to our O = meh (we've had multiple TO games this year, they didnt do anything special) what we did to their O = elite (i dare say we don't see anyone else stop them like that until the next Bills - Pats*** game) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st&ten Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 1 hour ago, the skycap said: My question is will Denver be willing to trade Von Miller/ Emmanuel Sanders? Intriguing thought but would Denver really trade their best player ? Even Elway isn't that stupid is he ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Interesting idea but overthinking to outthink the Hoodie might not go as planned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearwater cadet Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Vikings will send both for a 5 asnd 6th in 2045. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, John from Riverside said: I dont understand why if we had the opportunity to improve our WR core ppl would be against that Brown is NOT a 1......he is a excellent 2...always has been Cole is a 3 We DONT have a number 1 receiver on this team....I am hoping for one in the next draft but if you can improve the stable....its not a cap problem The Bills upgraded the offensive skill position groups in free agency and the draft but they need to do more to deliver the knock out punch to NE's reign of terror. For starters we need a big, physical receiver (maybe two?) that can battle and box out defenders that play the tight and physical style the Patriots employ against the Bills year after year. I guess that's why a lot of posters are calling for Duke Williams to get a shot. That crazy catch Knox made on the sidelines on Sunday, no way any of our WR group battles and out-muscles the defender while still focusing on the ball to make that catch. Some real speed out of the backfield would be a nice add to in next year's draft. But if this team is serious about making the playoffs and a genuine run to the big game then it might be worth the cost to get a healthy AJ Green for a late round pick. Edited October 1, 2019 by All_Pro_Bills 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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