slipkid Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Bad. And may have cost the Bills a W. The offensive pass interference was a penalty but never should have been challenged, especially in light of Thursday night. And take the the field goal, for crying out loud! Who possibly trusts the back-up on fourth and goal from the four on his fifth play off the season. And I thought Josh was the one who was hit in the head. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILBillsfan Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Some horrible in game decisions today Challenging the forward progress call and this isn't the first time he has done this.....never challenge a spot unless it is blatant and this was not To not kick the fg down 6 with plenty of time in the game.....Defense had been playing lights out kick the fg be down three and need a fg to tie vs needing the TD calling the timeout on the punt play was probably the worst in game decision of the day. The challenge on the offensive pass interference i can give a bit but not after the other bad decisions and knowing if you lose you are now down to one time out left With all the eff ups by the bad qb play the offensive line and the coaches issues we still only lost by 6 and the Bills offense outscored the pats....so i do feel some [positives form a game just was a compounding affect today. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 I liked the pick play challenge but hated the challenge for the first down earlier 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Challenges were terrible. Neither had a chance. I was fine with going for it. I would have had no problem kicking the FG either. Daboll was not good today. Where were the screens against the pass rush? Why is Knox not more involved? The run play on third and goal was awful. That needs to be run to the left or play action. I did like the WR pass by Brown. Nice design. But McD's failure is not getting this team to calm down before a Patriots game. It started right after the Bengals game. He says it's just week 4 but then makes it seem like the Patriots are not beatable all week long. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Stupid challenges and not taking the easy FG to make it a three point game was inexcusable imo. Overthinking it. Take points vs NE when they are on the table Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishgrappler Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 If he kicked the field goal and we still lost you’d be posting that he’s too conservative....many others would be backseat drivers just like you. 10 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Both challenges were stupid. The 4th and 1 call was correct. They needed to get the TD to win. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BITE ME Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Coaching was not the problem. Josh Allen was the problem. He just kept forcing passes down the field. The overall coaching was a solid B+. A for Defense. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILBillsfan Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, fishgrappler said: If he kicked the field goal and we still lost you’d be posting that he’s too conservative....many others would be backseat drivers just like you. absolutely not but thinks for the try 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwight in philly Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, fishgrappler said: If he kicked the field goal and we still lost you’d be posting that he’s too conservative....many others would be backseat drivers just like you. i disagree . you take the points .. but too lazy to argue 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Mantis_Toboggan Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 (edited) I agree with taking the points, especially with your backup QB just coming into the game, points are still a big plus in the right column against that defense. Like you said, Bills defense was absolutely lights out, trust them to keep shutting down the Pats and get the ball back in decent field position with a chance for a tie or lead. Timeout management/bad challenges were infuriating to watch. To still be within striking distance after all the negative plays this offense/special teams made is really astounding. This defense should lead this team to the playoffs so long as the offense can get out of it’s own way. Edited September 29, 2019 by Dr.Mantis_Toboggan 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd1 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 McDermott was not conservative and I LIKED his decisions today. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 6 minutes ago, ILBillsfan said: Some horrible in game decisions today Challenging the forward progress call and this isn't the first time he has done this.....never challenge a spot unless it is blatant and this was not - Correct NEVER challenge forward progress at all. To not kick the fg down 6 with plenty of time in the game.....Defense had been playing lights out kick the fg be down three and need a fg to tie vs needing the TD - this is the correct call. He should and did go for it. Now if you want to question the actual playcall I am with you. calling the timeout on the punt play was probably the worst in game decision of the day. - Yep did not understand that call. The challenge on the offensive pass interference i can give a bit but not after the other bad decisions and knowing if you lose you are now down to one time out left - correct challenge. Was OPI and should have been called as much. With all the eff ups by the bad qb play the offensive line and the coaches issues we still only lost by 6 and the Bills offense outscored the pats....so i do feel some [positives form a game just was a compounding affect today. comments in Bold 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, ILBillsfan said: Some horrible in game decisions today Challenging the forward progress call and this isn't the first time he has done this.....never challenge a spot unless it is blatant and this was not To not kick the fg down 6 with plenty of time in the game.....Defense had been playing lights out kick the fg be down three and need a fg to tie vs needing the TD calling the timeout on the punt play was probably the worst in game decision of the day. The challenge on the offensive pass interference i can give a bit but not after the other bad decisions and knowing if you lose you are now down to one time out left With all the eff ups by the bad qb play the offensive line and the coaches issues we still only lost by 6 and the Bills offense outscored the pats....so i do feel some [positives form a game just was a compounding affect today. Go away, man you guys kill me with your arm chair coaching!!! I am very proud of this team and the "Mcbeane Process!!!" ESPN Operation football called the Bills one of the two best Defenses in the NFL - the other the Patriots and one of the best coached teams! Go sit in your room! 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILBillsfan Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 1 minute ago, cd1 said: McDermott was not conservative and I LIKED his decisions today. confusing smart with conservative The first time they went for it absolutely agreed 4th and 1 at the one your team needed it The second time late in game you kick the fg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Just now, cd1 said: McDermott was not conservative and I LIKED his decisions today. I agree, and I'm a little surprised. McD and his staff coached to win; I'm really in disbelief about Frazier...he coached a great game. Josh and SpT made too many mistakes. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 12 minutes ago, slipkid said: Bad. And may have cost the Bills a W. The offensive pass interference was a penalty but never should have been challenged, especially in light of Thursday night. And take the the field goal, for crying out loud! Who possibly trusts the back-up on fourth and goal from the four on his fifth play off the season. And I thought Josh was the one who was hit in the head. pick play challenge was right. going for it was right call bad challenge was challenging progress should NEVER challenge the spot. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 (edited) With the way our D was handling the Pats the 4th and goal was the right call. The challenges didn't work out but didn't decide the outcome of the game by any means. I still don't understand abandoning Gore who was torching the Pats for 6.4yds a carry? Why stop, it's opens up play calling so much more for the O? Edited September 29, 2019 by Real McCoy 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, ILBillsfan said: absolutely not but thinks for the try Come on, tell me your really a soccer fan just looking for replies on a slow day! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsmob88 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Not a chance this is MCd fault. this game is on JOSH ALLEN TERRIBLE QB play today. NEED TO DRAFT A REAL OT AND A REAL WR STOP MAKING THIS CITY WAIT YEAR AFTER YEAR. Enough is enough 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Just now, Real McCoy said: With the way our D was handling the Pats the 4th and goal was the right call. The challenges didn't work out but didn't decide the outcome of the game by any means. I still don't understand abandoning Gore who was torching the Pats for 6.4yds a carry? Why stop, it's opens up play calling so much more for the O. OK, if you want to question play calling I'm with you! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksilver Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 (edited) We did enough on the field to give the game away. MCD didn't help as mentioned above. Edited September 29, 2019 by qwksilver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Just now, billsmob88 said: Not a chance this is MCd fault. this game is on JOSH ALLEN TERRIBLE QB play today. NEED TO DRAFT A REAL OT AND A REAL WR STOP MAKING THIS CITY WAIT YEAR AFTER YEAR. Enough is enough Go throw a temper tantrum! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 9 minutes ago, fishgrappler said: If he kicked the field goal and we still lost you’d be posting that he’s too conservative....many others would be backseat drivers just like you. This is the OP basically didn't matter what was done he would have posted a thread on the opposite. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Hind sight is always wonderful, but I would have taken the FG after the loss of yards on the 3rd down call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearwater cadet Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 looked unprepared today. I feel they beat themselves today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILBillsfan Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Just now, Boca BIlls said: This is the OP basically didn't matter what was done he would have posted a thread on the opposite. No but again thanks for trying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 5 minutes ago, cd1 said: McDermott was not conservative and I LIKED his decisions today. How dare you not join the mob throwing temper tantrums because we lost a game to the Patriots with a chance to win! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 1 minute ago, ILBillsfan said: No but again thanks for trying See he is doing the opposite of what anyone says. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 I agree overall. He's not good with time management and with timeouts. I said before the TD attempt you need to take the points there. The challenges were mindless. He does have the team ready though and he's a pretty good coach overall so far. It's a tough task consistently getting in game decisions right but he's not good at it yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 12 minutes ago, fishgrappler said: If he kicked the field goal and we still lost you’d be posting that he’s too conservative....many others would be backseat drivers just like you. Yup. That was absolutely the right call there... you get down to the 2 yard line, you need to go for the jugular. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearwater cadet Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 If Edmund pick 6 brady in the 4th we win. I know it would have been a tough caught but playmakers make plays. NE makes them when they need to. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW82 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Agreed but at the same time we should probably give him props for a terrific defensive game plan. We made Brady look awful today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruiserplayer Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, billsmob88 said: Not a chance this is MCd fault. this game is on JOSH ALLEN TERRIBLE QB play today. NEED TO DRAFT A REAL OT AND A REAL WR STOP MAKING THIS CITY WAIT YEAR AFTER YEAR. Enough is enough The GOAT was 18/39 for a hundred and fifty yards and he wasn’t even playing against a historical defense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 I very strongly agree with the 4th and goal call. Our offense had all sorts of problems moving the ball all day. One play to take the lead? Yes please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 1 minute ago, RiotAct said: Yup. That was absolutely the right call there... you get down to the 2 yard line, you need to go for the jugular. Not after they lose two yards and make it fourth and four. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 11 minutes ago, FUTURIST said: Coaching was not the problem. Josh Allen was the problem. He just kept forcing passes down the field. The overall coaching was a solid B+. A for Defense. While his mistakes were glaring, he was battling back and had the team in position for a 4th quarter comeback. Not all bad vs BB, who generally has his way with less experienced QBs. I’d agree the coaching was pretty solid all around. STs are still weak. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 6 minutes ago, billsmob88 said: Not a chance this is MCd fault. this game is on JOSH ALLEN TERRIBLE QB play today. NEED TO DRAFT A REAL OT AND A REAL WR STOP MAKING THIS CITY WAIT YEAR AFTER YEAR. Enough is enough Do you need a bridge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 9 minutes ago, FUTURIST said: Coaching was not the problem. Josh Allen was the problem. He just kept forcing passes down the field. The overall coaching was a solid B+. A for Defense. The coaching was hardly a B+. The challenges were dumb especially against a team that notoriously gets the ref love. 4th down on the 2 1/2 yard line with Barkley was stupid and reckless. Kick the easy fg with 12 min left. Farwell needs to take heat. As usual our defense plays their hearts out (basically shutout NE) and get nothing to show. And Josh took a big step backwards today. Hopefully the targeting doesn't turn into Trentative scenario? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slipkid Posted September 29, 2019 Author Share Posted September 29, 2019 9 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: pick play challenge was right. going for it was right call bad challenge was challenging progress should NEVER challenge the spot. Well, you’re one for three. That ain’t bad.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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