D521646 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 (edited) Some of you know that I can't stand the fact this women has a job when her prediction rate of success is abysmal, I mean downright awful, but she's still at it, and I warn ANYONE who plays fantasy (especially DFF) to avoid her "predictions" like the plague. I watched her prediction of last night's game, and went back and thought you all enjoy just how bad her "prediction" was. http://www.nfl.com/videos/game-theory/0ap3000001053711/Game-Theory-How-Panthers-can-capitalize-vs-Bucs-at-home There wasn't ONE SINGLE aspect of her prediction that came true, not a one. Discuss! Tim- Edited September 13, 2019 by D521646 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Billieve Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 You know her job isn't actually to be right, just to get you to watch. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 If she repeatedly used the term BillsMafia, but still sucked at predictions, would that make her more likeable? ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Yeah, but most people picked the Panthers to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Billieve Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Maybe her real job is to offer misinformation all in an attempt to make the meaty middle of the distribution curve feel better about their fantasy prowess when the suckers bite on her tips. I mean isn't that why they call it "game theory"? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D521646 Posted September 13, 2019 Author Share Posted September 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, MJS said: Yeah, but most people picked the Panthers to win. It wasn't just that, did you watch the clip? Tim- 4 minutes ago, Steve Billieve said: Maybe her real job is to offer misinformation all in an attempt to make the meaty middle of the distribution curve feel better about their fantasy prowess when the suckers bite on her tips. I mean isn't that why they call it "game theory"? Theories are derived from material evidence. What evidence did you see from Week one that had Cam being the 4th best QB in fantasy this week? Tim- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 She had the Bills at 6.4 wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Billieve Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, D521646 said: Theories are derived from material evidence. What evidence did you see from Week one that had Cam being the 4th best QB in fantasy this week? Tim- Was thinking more 3 body problem, less isaac newton. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 I knew I should have ignored this thread 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 20 minutes ago, D521646 said: Some of you know that I can't stand the fact this women has a job when her prediction rate of success is abysmal, I mean downright awful, but she's still at it, and I warn ANYONE who plays fantasy (especially DFF) to avoid her "predictions" like the plague. I watched her prediction of last night's game, and went back and thought you all enjoy just how bad her "prediction" was. http://www.nfl.com/videos/game-theory/0ap3000001053711/Game-Theory-How-Panthers-can-capitalize-vs-Bucs-at-home There wasn't ONE SINGLE aspect of her prediction that came true, not a one. Discuss! Tim- Why do you think women shouldn't be able to analyze football and/or make predictions??? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D521646 Posted September 13, 2019 Author Share Posted September 13, 2019 Just now, Gugny said: Why do you think women shouldn't be able to analyze football and/or make predictions??? Huh? What does this have to do with her being a women? I love women, and love the fact that the Bills have the most women in the league working for them. I have the same criticisms about men, MOST of them are morons as well, but something about her draws my attention, not sure what it is. Tim- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, D521646 said: Huh? What does this have to do with her being a women? I love women, and love the fact that the Bills have the most women in the league working for them. I have the same criticisms about men, MOST of them are morons as well, but something about her draws my attention, not sure what it is. Tim- You don't think your being a little massoginistic the way your talking about this women? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 She is absolutely horrendous. Her predictions are the worst I’ve ever seen. I guess analytics can’t predict any better than throwing darts at a board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, Gugny said: You don't think your being a little massoginistic the way your talking about this women? I'll take a mass-o-gin w/ squirt, if there's extra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 I have now heard multiple analysts refer to this as the first Thursday Night game of the year. Did they totally forget the season opens with a Thursday Night game?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 The opening Thursday night game was on NBC. Last night's game was the first Thursday night game for Fox/NFL network but I see your point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Bills2ref said: She is absolutely horrendous. Her predictions are the worst I’ve ever seen. I guess analytics can’t predict any better than throwing darts at a board. She's terrible. She's overly stat minded and doesn't offer anything else that's not stat minded. I usually turn her off. I listen to almost anyone else except her and Colin Cowherd. AND Mike Schopp. Edited September 13, 2019 by DCbillsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 39 minutes ago, Doc said: She had the Bills at 6.4 wins. Does .4 mean we lead for 1/4 of game 7 or almost a full 1/2 35 minutes ago, D521646 said: Huh? What does this have to do with her being a women? I love women, and love the fact that the Bills have the most women in the league working for them. I have the same criticisms about men, MOST of them are morons as well, but something about her draws my attention, not sure what it is. Tim- Love hate relationship....you secretly want her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 8 minutes ago, JMF2006 said: Does .4 mean we lead for 1/4 of game 7 or almost a full 1/2 Love hate relationship....you secretly want her .2 for each win over Miami 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 hour ago, D521646 said: Some of you know that I can't stand the fact this women has a job when her prediction rate of success is abysmal, I mean downright awful, but she's still at it, and I warn ANYONE who plays fantasy (especially DFF) to avoid her "predictions" like the plague. I watched her prediction of last night's game, and went back and thought you all enjoy just how bad her "prediction" was. http://www.nfl.com/videos/game-theory/0ap3000001053711/Game-Theory-How-Panthers-can-capitalize-vs-Bucs-at-home There wasn't ONE SINGLE aspect of her prediction that came true, not a one. Discuss! Tim- I mean, that's kind of true of most of these pundits, is it not? so what makes Freelund stand out to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 11 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I mean, that's kind of true of most of these pundits, is it not? so what makes Freelund stand out to you? To me she stands out because she's supposed to be delivering some (mysterious) mathematical analysis based on some (mysterious) model she has, that we are left to assume has some sound basis behind it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 I think she has a lot of education in statistical methods, and that her difficulty in predicting outcomes is a testimony to the complexity of NFL play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, BobChalmers said: To me she stands out because she's supposed to be delivering some (mysterious) mathematical analysis based on some (mysterious) model she has, that we are left to assume has some sound basis behind it. Hmmmmmmm isn't that what most of the various sites and pundits are claiming? ESPN with total QBR? PFF with all the stuff they claim goes into their ranking? 538? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, BobChalmers said: To me she stands out because she's supposed to be delivering some (mysterious) mathematical analysis based on some (mysterious) model she has, that we are left to assume has some sound basis behind it. But can she pick the powerball #'s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Hmmmmmmm isn't that what most of the various sites and pundits are claiming? ESPN with total QBR? PFF with all the stuff they claim goes into their ranking? 538? She stands out as being a (purported) statistical modeler compared to the endless stream of subjective talking heads on her host NFLN. She stands out separately from the modelers you mention on other outlets in that her results are so very terrible. Edited September 13, 2019 by BobChalmers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Analytics suck for football. Way too many variables. It's a much better tool for baseball, which is basically a bunch of one on one match-ups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, BobChalmers said: She stands out as being a (purported) statistical modeler compared to the endless stream of subjective talking heads on her host NFLN. She stands out separately from the modelers you mention on other outlets in that her results are so very terrible. I dunno, have you done a head to head? You sure their results aren't just as terrible? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOKIE Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 hour ago, LabattBlue said: If she repeatedly used the term BillsMafia, but still sucked at predictions, would that make her more likeable? ? Anyone, especially professional "journalists" who repeatedly uses "Bill's Mafia", is a ***** Tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Gugny said: Why do you think women shouldn't be able to analyze football and/or make predictions??? Exactly. So much hate towards women. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 hour ago, JMF2006 said: Does .4 mean we lead for 1/4 of game 7 or almost a full 1/2 Don't know, but the 6 means she's a doofus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 2 hours ago, DCbillsfan said: She's terrible. She's overly stat minded and doesn't offer anything else that's not stat minded. I usually turn her off. I listen to almost anyone else except her and Colin Cowherd. AND Mike Schopp. You do realise her job is to only look at stats, right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 I'm jealous she has a job covering football with her nonsense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 29 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: You do realise her job is to only look at stats, right? Well she needs to look at different stats because she's terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 FF ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 (edited) Freelund and her segment on NFLN has been discussed a couple of months ago. She's not much different than any other expert (analytic, coach, retired pro, etc) who makes predictions on any other network. I mean, I'd rather watch her than Michael Irvin. Amirite? Edited September 13, 2019 by Happy Gilmore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comebackkid Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 ? She's no Kay Adams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 Her nose is kind of big, but I'd still smash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 12 hours ago, Bills2ref said: She is absolutely horrendous. Her predictions are the worst I’ve ever seen. I guess analytics can’t predict any better than throwing darts at a board. But analytics sounds a lot better than guessing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 7 minutes ago, Just Joshin' said: But analytics sounds a lot better than guessing. She’s a very smart person as far as the math goes. However... you’re right her models and subsequent predictions haven't been great. She’s not “guessing” her models may just be trash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 8 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: She’s a very smart person as far as the math goes. However... you’re right her models and subsequent predictions haven't been great. She’s not “guessing” her models may just be trash. The problem with mathematical models is they are very reliant on prior performance. And the NFL is such an 'any given sunday' league. Her job isn't necessarily to be right. It is to apply a mathematical model to predictions as a contrast against the 3 guys on the panel applying more traditional NFL thinking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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