Rob's House Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 18 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: So we hate him, right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KollegeStudnet Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 This was one of my first posts was discussing the trade. I was stoked, crushing a paper for college. Then, there was no trade. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 At that stage of his career we don't where Gonzalez was at. If this team starts winning again and Josh Allen keeps improving, Buffalo will definately be a more attractive destination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bills Blog Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 This was known, but the reasoning for it is not. What's interesting is that I've never heard Tony pick the Bills once; he always picks the other team regardless of who it is. One of those strangely anti-Buffalo people it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 4 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Never heard it but it does not suprise me. This is a different team now. He would definitely sign with us for a big contract now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 KC was rebuilding and wanted to give him the opportunity for a ring. Trent was our QB and, obviously, Tony was a better judge of QBs than the Bills FO was at the time. I can't blame him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 5 hours ago, Leonhart2017 said: Yeah it was actually when we looked like we would be good in 2008 I think we were 5-1 at the time and Gonzo nixed coming here. We didn’t look near as good as the record and I suspect most knew it 4 hours ago, Jay_Fixit said: This was a big story back then. Yes. Yup. It was very much public knowledge at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 Who is this now? Who did he QB for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 8 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: We sucked back then, so yeah I would have too. No we actually didn't. We were stuck in mediocrity. They just signed TO the month before. Defense was solid. As the case has been the entire history of the franchise, the TE position was a nightmare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 I'm shocked...shocked that Russ Brandon couldn't get the thing done. Ah well, he couldn't get DJ fired after that season so it stands to reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 I honestly don't blame a H.O.F player still in his prime , coming to a dysfunctional franchise at the time. All this stuff just makes me appreciate the Pegulas , Beane and McDermott. I think we struck gold with these men. I'm getting early 90s vibes from this team and where it's headed, even though I was an infant back then. Love the 2019 Bills Bills forever regardless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 (edited) Buffalo will never be the most popular landing spot for players, which does in fact put the GM at a competitive disadvantage. This is why drafting well is SO important for this franchise. It's one of those things that we are all aware of, but some choose to irrationally contort themselves into believing there is no truth to it. BUT....If we draft well and have an exciting QB, that could certainly change the dynamic. We've got to have a few more things going for us than most teams to become an attractive destination. The objective should be to make those things happen. Edited September 11, 2019 by LSHMEAB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 8 hours ago, buffaloboyinATL said: I just heard Tony Gonzalez on radio with Colin Cowherd. He was talking about AB and mentioned that when he went from KC to Atlanta, the Bills tried to get him to come there but he declined. That is the first I have heard of that. Was that common knowledge? Yes, I remember it was reported at the time we tried to get him here and he wasn't interested. That was 2009, Jauron's last year, Trentative Edwards at QB. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 Be mentioned it on another talk show multiple years ago. This isn’t the first time I have heard it. He said he wanted to win a championship and we weren’t in a position to content at the time. Shocker, I know.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 29 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: Buffalo will never be the most popular landing spot for players, which does in fact put the GM at a competitive disadvantage. This is why drafting well is SO important for this franchise. It's one of those things that we are all aware of, but some choose to irrationally contort themselves into believing there is no truth to it. BUT....If we draft well and have an exciting QB, that could certainly change the dynamic. We've got to have a few more things going for us than most teams to become an attractive destination. The objective should be to make those things happen. Some players care what city they play in. The vast majority just want the money. Lynch wanted out and he was a drafted player. Mario Williams, Takeo Spikes, and Morse were all considered top players at their position when they were signed. Multiple ways to build a team but none of them work without finding a QB. The best way is to draft a star QB that is great from the outset and therefore cheap in relative terms leaving plenty of cap space to build a team. Not so easy to do but if Allen is the franchise QB there will be plenty of cap space in the next two years to build a championship team. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Some players care what city they play in. The vast majority just want the money. What if the money's equal? I'm just trying to call a spade a spade. I love Buffalo, but money being equal, most players are gonna prefer a different locale. That's my opinion as I stated earlier. I guess you'd have to do some kind of anonymous poll. It doesn't mean you can't win. Who REALLY wants to live in Green Bay? Yet they've been a consistent winner. As you stated, they've done this by having franchise QB's. That's the key for us IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 Jerk, but you can't blame him. However those days are gone and players will be begging to come here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 Can ya blame him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 17 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: Yup very true...sadly for me, I was not born and raised in B-lo, and never even been there. I chose this pain when I lived in 49er country with the hey day of Montana and then Young...hahaha And lol on Zay, which grab you referring to...the -2 yard one or the 20 yard one on his way to 2 rec (on 5 targets) and 18 total yards on a day Allen threw 37 times hehe But only to guys on the opening day roster ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 8 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Yes, I remember it was reported at the time we tried to get him here and he wasn't interested. That was 2009, Jauron's last year, Trentative Edwards at QB. ...now that's quite the welcoming committee............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo86 Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 Can't believe Gonzalez wouldn't want to play for Dick Jauron. What was he thinking?!? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted September 11, 2019 Author Share Posted September 11, 2019 9 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: That was 2009, Jauron's last year, Trentative Edwards at QB. Exactly! He would have had 287 check down targets. He could have set the all time reception record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 I'm sure Antonio Brown must be to blame for this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 18 hours ago, billsfan5121 said: I remember hearing that. But keep in mind, when this happened, I believe it was the week before the Chargers game in 2008 with Trent Edwards, who looked pretty good at the time. So I don’t know if the issue was winning as we were 4-1 at that point I think. Maybe he just didn’t want to move further north? Edit- found this link. I guess it was between us and the packers, so I assume he just preferred GB. But it fell apart at the last second when KC upped their asking price to a 2nd https://thepowersweep.com/blog/packers-tight-end-tony-gonzalez-chiefs-2008-trade I believe what we're talking about is the offseason of 2006 when Gonzalez was looking for a new team. He moved from Atlanta to KC. The above is talking about a trade from KC to GB while he was under contract with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said: I'm sure Antonio Brown must be to blame for this That's sarcasm, Right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: But only to guys on the opening day roster ? Hahaha nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 I remember beeing mad at that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 12 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: That's sarcasm, Right? It is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 9 hours ago, LSHMEAB said: What if the money's equal? I'm just trying to call a spade a spade. I love Buffalo, but money being equal, most players are gonna prefer a different locale. That's my opinion as I stated earlier. I guess you'd have to do some kind of anonymous poll. It doesn't mean you can't win. Who REALLY wants to live in Green Bay? Yet they've been a consistent winner. As you stated, they've done this by having franchise QB's. That's the key for us IMO. If the money is equal, players are going with the winning franchise. The preferred free agent location narrative is overplayed imo. Can anyone really answer what cities every free agent wants to play in ? I’d think Miami would be near the top of that list, but they are such a dysfunctional franchise no one wants to play for them. It really all comes down to money and/or winning. This franchise hasn’t struggled with signing free agents as much as the common narrative would lead one to believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan5121 Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 28 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I believe what we're talking about is the offseason of 2006 when Gonzalez was looking for a new team. He moved from Atlanta to KC. The above is talking about a trade from KC to GB while he was under contract with them. I think he declined a trade to buffalo in 2008, and the article I posted mentions that, as well as GB. Because the GB part of the deal fell through, KC kept him until he was a FA in the offseason, where he signed with Atlanta in 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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