thebandit27 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: If it is then can fill that gap with another Vet OLBer or go into the draft and get on. Not Vital as much as it is getting a Poyer extension done I would move Edmunds to that position and find a different ILB that can play in 3 LB sets. Of course, they may already have that guy in Vosean or Stanford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: In Order Re-sign Poyer (will be going into last year of Deal next year) Look at Re-signing depending on their play this year Jordan Phillips Alexander Lawson Then Sign Yannick Ngakoue Amari Cooper You got to add Spain, Long, Foster, McKenzie and others depending on how they play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Trade multiple picks for Kelvin Benjamin and sign him to a max. All joking aside, Benjamin went unsigned and may well be out of the league for good. He's only 28. Edited September 3, 2019 by dave mcbride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: You got to add Spain, Long, Foster, McKenzie and others depending on how they play. Long has another year on his deal, Foster is an ERFA; McKenzie I think is restricted but not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Make sure you keep the guys on the roster now that you definitely want to stay, even if it's a year early. Poyer, White, Hyde, Milano would be priorities. Then decide which of the O linemen proved it on their short deals and extend them; very hard to find quality O linemen these days. Then look at a WR or pass rusher to target. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Mark my words .... LoRax may not be here next season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Long has another year on his deal, Foster is an ERFA; McKenzie I think is restricted but not sure. Long is on a team option next year......still would have to be exercised. I'm just saying it again, teams sign their own first and that's what the Bills will have to decide. Any list of FAs from other teams are meaning less until you see who signs their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 39 minutes ago, CommonCents said: Zeke is Chic Fila. Singletary is Arby’s. So wait...they BOTH suck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSbSoon Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Dont forget about milano especially if he balls out this year. One year left on rookie deal. He could be the first one extended actually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderingsquid Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 In addition to WR and DE, I'd like us to bring in a bigger name pass catching TE. In FA or the draft, I don't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 18 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: All joking aside, Benjamin went unsigned and may well be out of the league for good. He's only 28. Oh, I agree. I can’t seem anyone paying him. Sad, he didn’t take his career more seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taglientep Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 What about we sign our guys like white, milano ect... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Free agent market in 2020 is pretty bare, and likely to become even more barren with re-signings. Depth signings on the OL is always good. Depth CB’s are always good to have too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob71 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Free beer at all home games for us devoted fans 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCBillsBeliever Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 hour ago, HOUSE said: Invest in bonds Barry? Asking for a friend... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dat Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 hour ago, CommonCents said: Zeke is Chic Fila. Singletary is Arby’s. So Zeke is closed every Sunday and not working? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Logic said: I'd have to see a list of available free agents. Off the top of my head, it would seem that the biggest needs for the Bills next year will be at edge rusher and wide receiver. Both positions are rich in the draft, and the Bills are rich with cash. I'd like to see Buffalo start pre-emptively extending some of their own homegrown talent and find either a big time EDGE or WR in free agency, if one is available. Address these positions again in the draft, and we're ready to roll. Not 100% up to date but it's a start https://nfltraderumors.co/2020-nfl-free-agent-list/ 50 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Can you imagine how beloved Tyler Boyd would be?!? He re-signed with Cincy for 4 years in July, http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001036624/article/bengals-wr-tyler-boyd-signs-4year-43m-extension 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Extend Poyer, Milano Look for an edge rusher and continue building solid depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 One thing people tend to forget, is that cap space carries over from the previous year. Just because we have tons of space, doesn't mean we need to go crazy. As stated, we can probably start looking at early extensions for Matt Milano and maybe Dion Dawkins (if he has a really good year). We get a 5th Year Option on Tre White, so it may be a year too soon to extend him. If the Bills position themselves as contenders, don't be surprised if they target a big-time player through trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 43 minutes ago, thunderingsquid said: In addition to WR and DE, I'd like us to bring in a bigger name pass catching TE. In FA or the draft, I don't care. Let this season play out. 2 Draft picks made the team. We may not think TE for a dozen seasons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsaikotic Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 (edited) heres our list of FA for 2020...we need to re-sign our own...not all but the ones they want to keep(duh!): on the 53 - Jordan Phillips DT (UFA) Lorenzo Alexander OLB (UFA) - might retire Julian Stanford OLB (UFA) Maurice Alexander LB (UFA) Kevin Johnson CB (UFA) Levi Wallace CB (ERFA) Shaq Lawson DE (UFA) Quinton Spain G (UFA) Frank Gore RB (UFA) Kurt Coleman FS (UFA) Dean Marlowe SS (RFA) Isaiah McKenzie WR (RFA) Robert Foster WR (ERFA) practice squad guys - not sure how these guys are effected tho Eddie Yarbrough DE (RFA) Nate Becker TE (ERFA) Erik Magnunson OT (RFA) on IR - LaAdrian Waddle RT (UFA) Senorise Perry RB (UFA) Jason Croom TE (ERFA) Edited September 3, 2019 by Tsaikotic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 hour ago, thebandit27 said: I would move Edmunds to that position and find a different ILB that can play in 3 LB sets. Of course, they may already have that guy in Vosean or Stanford. This is a joke like your other entries here, right? The kid was POTM in December. Has the wing span of an eagle. Jesus! 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotton Fitzsimmons Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 hour ago, ShadyBillsFan said: supposedly Jerruh is takin care of bidniz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Currently there are 43 players under contract for 2020. Man did they shore up some holes. 10 players and $90 Million 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 hour ago, dave mcbride said: All joking aside, Benjamin went unsigned and may well be out of the league for good. He's only 28. Hardly surprising, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 16 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: This is a joke like your other entries here, right? The kid was POTM in December. Has the wing span of an eagle. Jesus! Huh? No...not at all. I would play Edmunds in the role that LorAx plays. Only difference would be that Edmunds would never leave the field. Point being that he's got so much more in him than just a MLB. He can rush the passer, play over the TE, play down the funnel, cover backs, blitz from the inside, etc. He's got more value playing elsewhere, whereas someone far less talented (like Vosean, for instance) can play MLB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 edge rushers tight ends (plural) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 2 hours ago, thebandit27 said: Sign whichever WR the Bengals let go between Boyd and Green Sign one of the following EDGE players: Clowney, Ngakoue, Fowler, Beasley, Von Miller (if his option isn't picked up), C. Jones (if released for cap reasons), Campbell (if released for cap reasons) Sign Tre White to an extension Don’t go near Vic Beasley. But I like your approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 23 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: This is a joke like your other entries here, right? The kid was POTM in December. Has the wing span of an eagle. Jesus! I don't get the crap he's getting. He was 19 years old when he started the season!!! What he accomplished as the QB of the defense was awesome IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Huh? No...not at all. I would play Edmunds in the role that LorAx plays. Only difference would be that Edmunds would never leave the field. Point being that he's got so much more in him than just a MLB. He can rush the passer, play over the TE, play down the funnel, cover backs, blitz from the inside, etc. He's got more value playing elsewhere, whereas someone far less talented (like Vosean, for instance) can play MLB. All of this is accurate and better suited to where he is. The new primary offense is 3 step drops and fire short. He played havoc with scheme all through his rookie season. I can’t think of any reason to move this tower out of the middle of the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 3, 2019 Author Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 hour ago, thebandit27 said: I would move Edmunds to that position and find a different ILB that can play in 3 LB sets. Of course, they may already have that guy in Vosean or Stanford. Sir....please Edmunds looks outstanding in his 2nd year at OLB and totally fits what McD wants from his middle backer.....WHY would we do this? We should just figure out who is gonna be the replacement at olb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: I don't get the crap he's getting. He was 19 years old when he started the season!!! What he accomplished as the QB of the defense was awesome IMO I think folks are misreading me re: Edmunds. I think he'll be a very good MLB. I also think that he will have far greater value if he's allowed to move around the defense and play on the EDGE at least as much as in the middle. 2 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: All of this is accurate and better suited to where he is. The new primary offense is 3 step drops and fire short. He played havoc with scheme all through his rookie season. I can’t think of any reason to move this tower out of the middle of the field. I just think that a lesser player can do what is asked of a MLB, and that he can do much more than what most LBs are capable of. 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: Sir....please Edmunds looks outstanding in his 2nd year at OLB and totally fits what McD wants from his middle backer.....WHY would we do this? We should just figure out who is gonna be the replacement at olb My. Word. Guys. I didn't knock Edmunds. At all. I've explained why we would do this multiple times. EDGE players have, to a man, more value than MLBs, and Edmunds is capable of making more plays than your typical MLB who stays in the funnel. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: I think folks are misreading me re: Edmunds. I think he'll be a very good MLB. I also think that he will have far greater value if he's allowed to move around the defense and play on the EDGE at least as much as in the middle. I just think that a lesser player can do what is asked of a MLB, and that he can do much more than what most LBs are capable of. We’ve seen him very effectively blitz, stuff lanes and defend passes from right where he is. I expect even more development from this season and he’s already a stud. McDermott wants him there and he’s done nothing to second guess that thinking. Milano is the guy from the outside in the Defense to rush, pursue and play the flat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 (edited) That number will dip a bit with resigning some of our own. If all these guys play lights out in their contract year (2020), we could be down to about $60M. Extending a few keys guys a year early could drop us down to $30-40M. Still a ton of coin for FA. We need some help at OLB and Edge Rusher. Probably extend: Forgot they are on rookie deals and cannot be extended yetRobert Foster Levi Wallace Wait and see how the year goes: Kevin Johnson Shaq Lawson Quinton Spain Jordan Phillips Spencer Long (There is a club option for 2020) Possibly extend early: Matt Barkley Tre White Ty Nseke Trent Murphy Jordan Poyer Zay Jones Dion Dawkins Matt Milano John Feliciano Edited September 3, 2019 by Mango I am an idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Just now, Mango said: That number will dip a bit with resigning some of our own. If all these guys play lights out in their contract year (2020), we could be down to about $60M. Extending a few keys guys a year early could drop us down to $30-40M. Still a ton of coin for FA. We need some help at OLB and Edge Rusher. Probably extend: Robert Foster Levi Wallace Wait and see how the year goes: Kevin Johnson Shaq Lawson Quinton Spain Jordan Phillips Spencer Long (There is a club option for 2020) Possibly extend early: Matt Barkley Tre White Ty Nseke Trent Murphy Jordan Poyer Zay Jones Dion Dawkins Matt Milano John Feliciano Can't extend either Foster or Wallace until after the 2020 season at the earliest. 2 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: We’ve seen him very effectively blitz, stuff lanes and defend passes from right where he is. I expect even more development from this season and he’s already a stud. McDermott wants him there and he’s done nothing to second guess that thinking. Milano is the guy from the outside in the Defense to rush, pursue and play the flat. And I think he should play in the middle; I just think he should play elsewhere too is all. You can probably effectively combine the LB role that he and LorAx are playing currently and hand that to Edmunds--that's how talented he is...the only practical change would be that Edmunds plays outside when there are 3 LBs on the field. And it's because of how good Edmunds is, not any type of deficiency. It's fine if other folks don't want to move him, but I'm a bit surprised at the level of vitriol from the mere suggestion that he can be put to better use. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 minute ago, thebandit27 said: Can't extend either Foster or Wallace until after the 2020 season at the earliest. Whoops. I saw them on Spotrac and didn't see the ERFA designation. I will remove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Just now, Mango said: Whoops. I saw them on Spotrac and didn't see the ERFA designation. I will remove. No worries...I tend to get lost in who can and can't get new contracts myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 3, 2019 Author Share Posted September 3, 2019 13 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: I think folks are misreading me re: Edmunds. I think he'll be a very good MLB. I also think that he will have far greater value if he's allowed to move around the defense and play on the EDGE at least as much as in the middle. I just think that a lesser player can do what is asked of a MLB, and that he can do much more than what most LBs are capable of. My. Word. Guys. I didn't knock Edmunds. At all. I've explained why we would do this multiple times. EDGE players have, to a man, more value than MLBs, and Edmunds is capable of making more plays than your typical MLB who stays in the funnel. What I am voicing is I believe that IN THIS PARTICULAR defense......a pass coverage linebacker is ultra important. You may agree or not...that is my opinion...:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 I don't expect a big spending spree. But I do think they target one big ticket item and another starting caliber player along with their usual depth signings. I don't foresee 2-3 big ticket players along with 2 or more starters. I do think that the team starts to take care of their own players like Dawkins and Tre if they both turn in strong seasons and resigning Shaq if he has a good year. Given the WR draft is projected to be strong I think they roll with Brown and Beasley and draft a WR round 1 (possibly even trading up to do so) I think they also spend big on the edge rush as even if Shaq has a great year you still need to move Hughes into a situational role (and I don't foresee Shaq having a breakout.) I could also see the team signing another starting caliber O-line or tight end depending on how those positions shake out. Overall I think the agenda next off-season will be to add a big time pass rusher, take care of their own players in need of extensions , add a starting caliber supporting piece to the offense, and draft a big time WR. I think they want to keep cap flexibility to retain their own players longer term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 (edited) Lots of one year contracts which is what these guys like, I think that continues. But there will be holes, no need to spend just to spend in FA, that has been proven to not be a good strategy. Spend judiciously, extend where appropriate and draft well......and oh yeah give Josh Allen all the help (not necesarily other players) he needs to succeed. Edited September 3, 2019 by mattynh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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