BringBackFlutie Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 41 minutes ago, Say When... said: I really want him on the 53, maybe they were concerned about making it 'too easy' for him. just like a tiger, don't feed him for a few days; make him manageable and hungry and the memory will help him "stay in his lane". Didn't that lady that didn't feed her tiger get eaten? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY315 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 What has Gase done to earn him the "offensive guru" label? Don't tell me it's from his time with Manning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philo Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, CNY315 said: What has Gase done to earn him the "offensive guru" label? Don't tell me it's from his time with Manning It is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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njbuff Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 I hope the Bills D can rush the passer right out of the gate this year. This will be the tell tale sign if the Bills are going to be a really good team this year. If Darnold can sit back there and have his choice at the buffet table, it's not a good sign at all for the 2019 Bills. It starts and ends with a consistent pass rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Royale with Cheese Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: That camera angle on Oliver makes him look like he's 230 lbs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 4, 2019 Author Share Posted September 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, njbuff said: I hope the Bills D can rush the passer right out of the gate this year. This will be the tell tale sign if the Bills are going to be a really good team this year. If Darnold can sit back there and have his choice at the buffet table, it's not a good sign at all for the 2019 Bills. It starts and ends with a consistent pass rush. Ryan Khalil might retire again after dealing with Oliver all game. He slow. Oliver fast. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Ryan Khalil might retire again after dealing with Oliver all game. He slow. Oliver fast. I thought about this match up earlier. They'll most certainly double him a lot. Then Hughes should be singled up along with Murphy/Lawson on the other end. We need Star when he's out there to be able to push the RG back...he's not going to beat him for the sack but just push it enough where Darnold can't step up. Hoping to have big games from the two Phillips....just win your match up. I think we'll see blitzing directly up the middle from Edmunds or Milano. If the Khalil slides to pick it up, Oliver is one on one. Bell isn't picking up the blitz if Edmunds comes free.... Edited September 4, 2019 by Royale with Cheese 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Ryan Khalil might retire again after dealing with Oliver all game. He slow. Oliver fast. Oliver's first game as a pro, so we really have no idea what he is right out of the gate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: I thought about this match up earlier. They'll most certainly double him a lot. Then Hughes should be singled up along with Murphy/Lawson on the other end. We need Star when he's out there to be able to push the RG back...he's not going to beat him for the sack but just push it enough where Darnold can't step up. Hoping to have big games from the two Phillips....just win your match up. I think we'll see blitzing directly up the middle from Edmunds or Milano. If the Khalil slides to pick it up, Oliver is one on one. Bell isn't picking up the blitz if Edmunds comes free.... If I were them, I'd be trying to run right at Oliver as much as possible. Try to wear him down in his first NFL game, and do so as early as possible. What you don't want to do is let the Bills get you into 3rd and long situations and let Oliver (and Hughes and Murphy) be able to use their speed advantage, because that would have the opposite effect. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 1 minute ago, thebandit27 said: If I were them, I'd be trying to run right at Oliver as much as possible. Try to wear him down in his first NFL game, and do so as early as possible. What you don't want to do is let the Bills get you into 3rd and long situations and let Oliver (and Hughes and Murphy) be able to use their speed advantage, because that would have the opposite effect. I think this on 3rd and 7+.....Murphey - Lorax - Oliver - Hughes That unit is getting to the QB quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x-BillzeBubba Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 20 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: that's savage...I doubt Revis could cover that even in his prime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Say When... said: good point - must be something we're not seeing then; forgot about the waiver process before they hit the PS. he just needs to drop to our WW spot correct? he's not eligible for all 31 teams unless we're 32nd (which we're not)? He's already cleared waivers and is signed to our PS. At this point, he's effectively a FA. Another team can make him an offer to sign to their 53. If he gets such an offer, the Bills can 1) match the offer and sign him to our 53 2) ask him to stay on our PS, perhaps at increased compensation 3) do nothing The choice of what to do rests with Williams, should that occur. He can choose to stay on our PS, choose to sign to our 53 if we match, or sign with the other team to their 53. It's been known to happen that guys get a 53-man roster offer and say "um, No Thanks" and stay on the PS. Usually when that occurs, the player sees his long-term opportunities to succeed in the NFL as being better where he is. He may also be getting more than league minimum as a PS player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 8 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: If I were them, I'd be trying to run right at Oliver as much as possible. Try to wear him down in his first NFL game, and do so as early as possible. What you don't want to do is let the Bills get you into 3rd and long situations and let Oliver (and Hughes and Murphy) be able to use their speed advantage, because that would have the opposite effect. I expect this. They'll pound it up the middle with Bell a lot and try to set up the play action. Oliver just needs to hold his ground and let the LBs clean up. It's not going to be a sexy game for him unless the Jets get desperate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 25 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I twisted an ankle just watching that. CB is a seriously gifted athlete. I’m still amazed at his BBall dunking feats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 need to keep the penalties on both sides of the ball down. expect a few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, K-9 said: I twisted an ankle just watching that. CB is a seriously gifted athlete. I’m still amazed at his BBall dunking feats. He removes any mystery as to why that's called a "whip" route 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 24 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I thought about this match up earlier. They'll most certainly double him a lot. Then Hughes should be singled up along with Murphy/Lawson on the other end. We need Star when he's out there to be able to push the RG back...he's not going to beat him for the sack but just push it enough where Darnold can't step up. Hoping to have big games from the two Phillips....just win your match up. I think we'll see blitzing directly up the middle from Edmunds or Milano. If the Khalil slides to pick it up, Oliver is one on one. Bell isn't picking up the blitz if Edmunds comes free.... i just hope that if, the rush 4 only philosophy isn't working, that they'll change things up quick before we get down double digits. i worry about frazier being too stuck in his own scheme. it took two 40 point poundings for mcd to step in last year. that can't happen again. i worry about frazier being too old school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 1 minute ago, billsredneck1 said: i just hope that if, the rush 4 only philosophy isn't working, that they'll change things up quick before we get down double digits. i worry about frazier being too stuck in his own scheme. it took two 40 point poundings for mcd to step in last year. that can't happen again. i worry about frazier being too old school. I think, correct me if I'm wrong, Frazier took over play calling duties again in week 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: I think, correct me if I'm wrong, Frazier took over play calling duties again in week 3. well yeah, after mcd had to step in later in the 2nd game. he did in fact take over the playcalling.....and at least slowed down the bleeding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: #FREEDUKE 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Mango said: Can I place my bet on first offensive play of the game now? Frank Gore through the A gap. Setting up 2nd and 7. Last year would've been 2nd and 9, with a Ducasse hold making it 1st and 19... 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said: Last year would've been 2nd and 9, with a Ducasse hold making it 1st and 19... To be fair, last year it was Shady running into Ducasse for -1...no holding required 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Just now, thebandit27 said: To be fair, last year it was Shady running into Ducasse for -1...no holding required more like ducasse backing into shady.... but ya. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Stop it! That man has a family! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 1 hour ago, njbuff said: Oliver's first game as a pro, so we really have no idea what he is right out of the gate. It seems fairly likely (not to be a Downer, just 'cuz "rookie") he will make some mistakes. He's just got to keep his head up and move on to the next play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Shhh, don't tell anyone... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 19 hours ago, SCBills said: Our OL will be playing together for the first time. Same for them. Their un-retired new Starting Center, Ryan Khalil, did not play in any preseason action for the Jets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Oliver, saying all of the right things.... https://www.buffalobills.com/video/ed-oliver-i-m-leaning-a-lot-on-the-older-guys 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 4, 2019 Author Share Posted September 4, 2019 1 hour ago, LeGOATski said: I expect this. They'll pound it up the middle with Bell a lot and try to set up the play action. Oliver just needs to hold his ground and let the LBs clean up. It's not going to be a sexy game for him unless the Jets get desperate. after watching Gase call plays in Miami I don’t expect him to do this. He greatly underutilized his RBs. I Expect the short passing game and screen passes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, TPS said: Oliver, saying all of the right things.... https://www.buffalobills.com/video/ed-oliver-i-m-leaning-a-lot-on-the-older-guys He really seems to be champing at the bit to get out there in that interview. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 I want Darnold to start out like he did last year A pick 6 on his first pass. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: after watching Gase call plays in Miami I don’t expect him to do this. He greatly underutilized his RBs. I Expect the short passing game and screen passes It just depends on the RBs he has. He's not going to underutilize Leveon Bell. Remember when CJ Anderson emerged in Denver Gase's last year there? 850 rushing and 300 receiving. Bell can do the same things even better...and much much better than the RBs he had in Miami. I don't think Gase is dumb enough not to run the ball early and often against the Bills defense. I'd be happy if he decides to lean on the passing game against the Bills' secondary, though. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: It just depends on the RBs he has. He's not going to underutilize Leveon Bell. Remember when CJ Anderson emerged in Denver Gase's last year there? 850 rushing and 300 receiving. Bell can do the same things even better...and much much better than the RBs he had in Miami. I don't think Gase is dumb enough not to run the ball early and often against the Bills defense. I'd be happy if he decides to lean on the passing game against the Bills' secondary, though. ? And then we will see if my skepticism on Ed Oliver's ability to hold up against the run was well founded or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 14 minutes ago, Warcodered said: He really seems to be champing at the bit to get out there in that interview. Wrong link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: And then we will see if my skepticism on Ed Oliver's ability to hold up against the run was well founded or not. I'm a little skeptical, but not too worried. I think the Bills have the talent to counter whatever the Jets do on offense. I see bigger holes in the Jets defense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 I really think the Bills should crush the Jets this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Wrong link. That's weird I watched the video just a little while ago but I can't find it on the site anymore did they take it down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Just now, Warcodered said: That's weird I watched the video just a little while ago but I can't find it on the site anymore did they take it down? Maybe updated with the Tre White locker room interview. Too bad. A lot of ? are on him Sunday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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