3rdand12 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 19 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I'm more of a pepsi guy it aint what i use to be though Pepsi-Cola now that was the sht Mountain Dew back in the day . Green ten ounce bottles down south back in the 60s . Frosty root beer and and occasional Orange Crush were the natural sugar rush god intended for us That was enough for me and should be enough for these "ballers" they just need a taste of the good olde stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 1 hour ago, eanyills said: I wouldn’t even say “baller” circles. Coke is huge in most nightlife and party scenes. I realize this is probably a pretty conservative leaning forum but coke is rather commonplace and not a big deal at all. If somebody doesn’t think it’s equally prevalent among young and rich star athletes who enjoy the nightlife, I don’t know what to tell you. Exactly. It's what weed was 20 years ago. Socially acceptable in the right crowds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: The Patriot Way involves drugs, hookers, cheating TB12 “method” and controversy to keep us interested Just now, ToGoGo said: Exactly. It's what weed was 20 years ago. Socially acceptable in the right crowds. what year was Hotel California recorded ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 44 minutes ago, mrags said: Your probably wrong on that. It probably is about half the NFL blowing coke. But probably about 80% smoking weed Excactly. While the other guys are smoking weed to relax, the pats are doing coke to study film faster. 2 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: it aint what i use to be though Pepsi-Cola now that was the sht Mountain Dew back in the day . Green ten ounce bottles down south back in the 60s . Frosty root beer and and occasional Orange Crush were the natural sugar rush god intended for us That was enough for me and should be enough for these "ballers" they just need a taste of the good olde stuff I think crack is better for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Kenosha2Buffalo said: Everyone does coke grow up Believe it or not, some people embrace a healthy lifestyle and are, indeed, “grown up” I don’t care what Pat Chung does. I’m aware that many go this route - rich, poor, athlete, non-athlete. That’s their perogative, though not my style. but being stupid leads to getting caught and indicted for a felony. That’s where the “grown up” part might want to factor in sooner. Edited August 23, 2019 by YoloinOhio 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bferra13 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 (edited) Crazy world we live in where people are saying coke is socially acceptable as a recreational drug and defending its use. I put coke on the same level as heroine. Abuse it enough and your destiny is a death sentence at a young age. Edited August 23, 2019 by Bferra13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Believe it or not, some people embrace a healthy lifestyle and are, indeed, “grown up” I don’t care what Pat Chung does. I’m aware that many go this route - rich, poor, athlete, non-athlete. That’s their perogative, though not my style. but being stupid leads to getting caught and indicted for a felony. That’s where the “grown up” part might want to factor in sooner. I believe it's important for everybody to be informed on the big picture before casting judgement on anybody. Understanding the common nature of coke use in nightlife is important when looking at this case if you'd like to get past basic duality in your view of things. Just because you consider yourself healthy, does not mean that you are a perfect person in every other aspect of your life. Perhaps there is an area of your life where you are making equally poor decisions, and you look the other way because it is commonplace (lying, selfishness, etc.). Not accusing you of any of these, but giving you a thought experiment since everybody has a vice. Are you really a better person than Chung because you don't do drugs? Is there anything you do that's immature for your age? 1 minute ago, Bferra13 said: Crazy world we live in where people are saying coke is socially acceptable as a recreational drug and defending its use. I put coke on the same level as heroine. Abuse it enough and your destiny is a death sentence at a young age. Socially acceptable is not equal to ethical. Those are two different arguments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 (edited) 55 minutes ago, fansince88 said: Smell. All you need is a dog. If an officer has reason of suspicion they move foward with a dog. I have knowledge of the loopholes in this. Large family and friends in my circle that are officers What would be the reason for the drug suspicion? In the Chung case this was a situation where the police were responding to a burglar alarm. What would be the basis of using a drug sniffing in this situation? Edited August 23, 2019 by JohnC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 17 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Excactly. While the other guys are smoking weed to relax, the pats are doing coke to study film faster. I think crack is better for you it was natural sugar back then. not the crap they use today but yep i probably got a cavity or two from swilling it. no question athletes fall into stimulants. even adderall. for cognitive function is abused 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 12 minutes ago, ToGoGo said: I believe it's important for everybody to be informed on the big picture before casting judgement on anybody. Understanding the common nature of coke use in nightlife is important when looking at this case if you'd like to get past basic duality in your view of things. Just because you consider yourself healthy, does not mean that you are a perfect person in every other aspect of your life. Perhaps there is an area of your life where you are making equally poor decisions, and you look the other way because it is commonplace (lying, selfishness, etc.). Not accusing you of any of these, but giving you a thought experiment since everybody has a vice. Are you really a better person than Chung because you don't do drugs? Is there anything you do that's immature for your age? Socially acceptable is not equal to ethical. Those are two different arguments. this is an interesting diversion to the OP intent. and of course easy to be drawn into he rabbit hole. There are laws. some are more enforced that others. there are indulgences to what degree a person makes use of them can affect their well being and quality of life/ i am going to put butter AND cream cheese on my toasted bagel. But i only have them once i awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bferra13 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 13 minutes ago, ToGoGo said: I believe it's important for everybody to be informed on the big picture before casting judgement on anybody. Understanding the common nature of coke use in nightlife is important when looking at this case if you'd like to get past basic duality in your view of things. Just because you consider yourself healthy, does not mean that you are a perfect person in every other aspect of your life. Perhaps there is an area of your life where you are making equally poor decisions, and you look the other way because it is commonplace (lying, selfishness, etc.). Not accusing you of any of these, but giving you a thought experiment since everybody has a vice. Are you really a better person than Chung because you don't do drugs? Is there anything you do that's immature for your age? Socially acceptable is not equal to ethical. Those are two different arguments. You are comparing apples to oranges here. None of us, nor are any of the 99.5% of the population in pat chungs shoes. And then you go on to compare selfishness and lying to a federal felony. You are free to your opinions, but i think you are attacking this from left field. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 17 minutes ago, JohnC said: What would be the reason for the drug suspicion? In the Chung case this was a situation where the police were responding to a burglar alarm. What would be the basis of using a drug sniffing case in this situation? aren't these State by State offenses ? The larger amounts, and trafficking are federal i might guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Bill B. is not happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 1 minute ago, 3rdand12 said: aren't these State by State offenses ? The larger amounts, and trafficking are federal i might guess This is a local case. It originated from a response to a burglar alarm. You are correct that each state has its own statutes that are enforced. The charge in this case is possession and not distribution. Unless this case evolved into a major distribution case the feds would not have any interest in it. Again, this is a local matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 45 minutes ago, ToGoGo said: Exactly. It's what weed was 20 years ago. Socially acceptable in the right crowds. Murder is socially acceptable.....if you’re in the mob. Hey! That’s how it goes..... 35 minutes ago, Bferra13 said: Crazy world we live in where people are saying coke is socially acceptable as a recreational drug and defending its use. I put coke on the same level as heroine. Abuse it enough and your destiny is a death sentence at a young age. If you put coke and heroin on the same level, you don’t know much about coke OR heroin. Don’t be upset.....I think that’s a very good thing. Seriously! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 patriot way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 11 hours ago, ToGoGo said: I mean....how much cocaine? It doesn't say. Hate to break it to the squares here, but half the NFL does cocaine. Was Chung in possession for use or was he dealing? Look at this cool guy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 57 minutes ago, Bferra13 said: You are comparing apples to oranges here. None of us, nor are any of the 99.5% of the population in pat chungs shoes. And then you go on to compare selfishness and lying to a federal felony. You are free to your opinions, but i think you are attacking this from left field. Why is it apples to oranges? From a pure ethical perspective, why is lying or selfishness (an innate negative quality) not considered equal or worse to a man-made law? Think outside the box. Left field is not a bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Doc said: If this had been Shady, or even any other Bill,WEO would’ve had him in jail already. Instead it’s cops planting evidence, someone else’s coke, etc. You can’t make this stuff up... Poor doc and his Shady love--it will die so hard... Anyway....I haven't mentioned any of the things you just mentioned. You made that up--like you always do. doc on, doc!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 12 minutes ago, BruceVilanch said: Look at this cool guy. What's your argument against what I said? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Somebody was Wang Chunging too much in the offseason.... finally a setback for the Pats.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, ToGoGo said: What's your argument against what I said? I have an argument. You thinking that half the league does cocaine is hilarious. What makes you think that? Just a hunch? Most of the guys in the league are religious about taking care of their bodies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 1 minute ago, MJS said: I have an argument. You thinking that half the league does cocaine is hilarious. What makes you think that? Just a hunch? Most of the guys in the league are religious about taking care of their bodies. Some guys just get around more than others. That's how we know. How you wish the world to be is not always how it is. Some people never learn at any age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 1 hour ago, ToGoGo said: What's your argument against what I said? You just come off as ultra douchey calling people squares and saying people never learn at any age (i'm sure except you, you figured it all out in like 6th grade and the teachers were probably into you because you weren't one of the squares and saw the world how it really is, just a bunch of dudes doing cocaine) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 1 hour ago, ToGoGo said: Some guys just get around more than others. That's how we know. How you wish the world to be is not always how it is. Some people never learn at any age. Ok. So you're just blowing smoke. Got it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 the guy clearly didn't have a fall guy. he messed up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 I’m not sure what some of you are yapping about. The guy was caught with COCAINE! He’s not a rookie. He’s a veteran and supposed to be a professional. I’m pretty sure he knows it’s totally illegal and that it’s not a performance enhancer or ‘dietary supplement’. Zero tolerance! Sheeesh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 9 hours ago, BruceVilanch said: Look at this cool guy. Everyones cool until they have a deviated septum and run out of cash ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, JohnC said: What would be the reason for the drug suspicion? In the Chung case this was a situation where the police were responding to a burglar alarm. What would be the basis of using a drug sniffing in this situation? Im not going to go over this with you forwver. If you dont understand then I give up. If the police respond to a burglary alarm they already have consent to search due to the contract you sign. If they enter your house and find Cocaine they cant turn a blind eye to that. When you sign the contract with a security company entrance and search by police is part of the contract. If that is in your contract then hide your drugs better. Once illegal activity of any sorts is known a search warrant will be issued. Is that clear enough for you? Edited August 23, 2019 by fansince88 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Just now, fansince88 said: Im not going to go over this with you forwver. If you dont understand then I give up. If the police respond to a burglary alarm they already have consent to search due to the contract you sign. If they enter your house and find Cocaine they cant turn a blind eye to that. When you sign the contract with a security company entrance and search by police is part of the contract. If that is in your contract then hide your drugs better. Is that clear enough for you? Let's wait to see what the facts are. The both of us are not aware of all the facts. When the case goes to court and his lawyers get involved the facts and legalities should be clarified. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 9 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Poor doc and his Shady love--it will die so hard... Anyway....I haven't mentioned any of the things you just mentioned. You made that up--like you always do. doc on, doc!! Likewise, keep WEOing on by offering legal defenses. For everyone who doesn’t play for the Bills, that is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 I have to laugh at all of those here passing judgment on Chung for getting caught with a little blow while remaining Bruce Smith and Jim Kelly fans. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Just now, dave mcbride said: I have to laugh at all of those here passing judgment on Chung for getting caught with a little blow while remaining Bruce Smith and Jim Kelly fans. If Bruce and Jimbo got caught they should have been busted. Just as Chung should now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: If Bruce and Jimbo got caught they should have been busted. Just as Chung should now. Call me soft, but I think it should be a misdemeanor. Our drug laws are nuts. If it's his first offense, he shouldn't sit at all. Not sure if it is, of course. Anyway, that Bills team in the late 1980s was pretty out of control. Let's not forget that. Edited August 23, 2019 by dave mcbride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 14 hours ago, hondo in seattle said: Who is he hurting, CB? I'll skip past all the medical stuff about the harm he's doing himself and the moralistic stuff about him being a role model for America's children. Let me get straight to the money. You do realize, right, all the criminal activity - murders, beatings, rapes - that are funded by the drug business? Chung might as well send a check to Al Qaeda or the Taliban. Neither option is any worse than giving money to the drug cartels. With all due respect Hondo some of what you posted is a bit of an overstatement. Was Qaeda or the Taliban in existence back in the 60’s and 70’s when it was used recreationally? Did you know that one of the original ingredients of CocaCola was coke? Cocaine was first isolated (extracted from coca leaves) in 1859 by German chemist Albert Niemann. with all drugs it comes down to moderation. 1 hour ago, Teddy KGB said: Everyones cool until they have a deviated septum and run out of cash ? Speaking from experience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 “Mr. Kraft, this is Mr. Cheatem from Dewey, Cheatem, and Howe...your legal advisers. We have to talk about an increase in the monthly retainer fee we charge”. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Speaking from experience? No. I’ve done it a handful of times and don’t see the appeal of being addicted to it. Do you have a story you would like to share ? Sounds like you’re a cool coke guy too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 13 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: If Bruce and Jimbo got caught they should have been busted. Just as Chung should now. If TMZ existed now, Kelly would have been suspended multiple times. Reading Relentless, I think there was a huge cocaine nfl investigation involving Jim and I believe Bruce. Glass houses. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: No. I’ve done it a handful of times and don’t see the appeal of being addicted to it. Do you have a story you would like to share ? Sounds like you’re a cool coke guy too. As I said. Moderation. Life was good as a teenager in the 70’s Edited August 23, 2019 by ShadyBillsFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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