gonzo1105 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 For the people who are saying Lawson, Jones, Foster I can sort of agree but at the same time those guys have value around the league. Im sure if the decision was to move on from any of those 3 they should be able to get some sort of draft pick compensation back. In the case of Jones and Lawson obviously we’d be losing in the value they were drafted at but I’m sure someone would take a shot to reinvent a young high round pick for say a 4th/5th rounder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 10 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: No chance Shaq is cut. He is more likely to sign an extension than he is to be cut. He played a nice game. He broke up that pass that he read perfectly and collapsed the pocket so that Harrison Phillips could clean up with that sack. I guess we watched different games. Zay is a guy that would be surprising (but possible). I think guys like Coleman & Munnerlyn are vets that are on the bubble. Daryl Johnson may bump someone else off the roster too. I thought for sure they would mention it during the replay, but nothing. He locked up the tackle, guard, and center on that one. Might as well start Harry and let Shaq do Star's job from now on lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123719bwiqrb Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Cut Zay, hands of stone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 17 minutes ago, NoSaint said: Without zay you have very few guys that can “do it all” if brown misses time. I don’t love zay but he’s cheap and the prospect of: beasley, Roberts and foster as our top 3 would have me a little worried about who the every down outside WR that runs the whole tree reliably is. I think that’s fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 17 minutes ago, NoSaint said: Without zay you have very few guys that can “do it all” if brown misses time. I don’t love zay but he’s cheap and the prospect of: beasley, Roberts and foster as our top 3 would have me a little worried about who the every down outside WR that runs the whole tree reliably is. Does Zay make you feel better honestly? I dread whenever a pass heads his way. He has been awful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 8 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said: No way Boy Toy gets cut. He will be cut as an example that the coaches do not play favorites. Plus, he is not a top 4 TE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: Brown, Beasley and Roberts are locks. Foster and Zay are likely. McKenzie is getting close to likely. Ray-Ray, Duke, Phillips, and even Easley are trying to sneak up. It isn’t crazy to me to think that McKenzie passes Zay on the depth chart (if he hasn’t already). The Bills also may want the big body of Duke because they don’t have any size otherwise. They don’t have someone that can make that play he did yesterday. It’s not impossible to me to see the WR depth chart as Brown, Beasley, Foster, McKenzie, Roberts, and Duke. Duke looked good last night while Ray Ray looked off. I think the size and red zone threat will lock him into a spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Trogdor said: Does Zay make you feel better honestly? I dread whenever a pass heads his way. He has been awful. Yes. Would you really rather have ray ray getting 50+ snaps a game as an outside receiver? Or Roberts? If beasley is in the slot, who are your two outside receivers if brown misses games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Scorp83 said: I think i wanna keep Christian Wade...give him Tyree Jackson's Spot! ??? I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure he doesn't count towards the PS number. It's something special to do with that international program. 1 minute ago, NoSaint said: Yes. Would you really rather have ray ray getting 50+ snaps a game as an outside receiver? Or Roberts? If beasley is in the slot, who are your two outside receivers if brown misses games? I'd rather put McKenzie out there. He probably gets just as much separation, and even if he only caught the ball 50% of the time it would be an improvement. I think Duke pushes Ray Ray out, so maybe him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorp83 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 45 minutes ago, Trogdor said: I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure he doesn't count towards the PS number. It's something special to do with that international program. I'd rather put McKenzie out there. He probably gets just as much separation, and even if he only caught the ball 50% of the time it would be an improvement. I think Duke pushes Ray Ray out, so maybe him. PS number?? Please clarify I have no clue what this abbreviation mean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 51 minutes ago, Just Joshin' said: He will be cut as an example that the coaches do not play favorites. Plus, he is not a top 4 TE. Butbutbut....Boy Toy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorp83 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 54 minutes ago, ScotSHO said: Cut Zay, hands of stone. Cut Jackson that fade route throw to Still was the worst smh ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Just now, Scorp83 said: Cut Jackson that fade route throw to Still was the worst smh ??? ....best case for him is PS....will be NO poachers.......NONE....he makes tartare look well done...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Hauschka is my vote. Something isn't right with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billykay Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 12 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said: i think Coleman is still going to be #3. Munnerlyn a decent chance of being cut. Johnson probably secured #4 S but he always was going to. I doubt Zay will be cut but he could be traded for a low pick. I'm hoping for it. Shaq has played very well IMO. Yep. Zay for a #5 is a good guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 12 hours ago, Chill said: Tyreeeeeeeé Jax ☀️ why is this a surprise cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 36 minutes ago, Scorp83 said: PS number?? Please clarify I have no clue what this abbreviation mean Practice squad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billykay Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 4 hours ago, The Bills Blog said: Oh my god... The coaching staff vs. the fans on Zay Jones might be the most hilarious thing I've ever seen. Zay Jones is a top player on this roster and is still on his rookie contract. He will not even be a consideration for cuts... I truly don't understand why fans have it out for him so much. I wonder if it's because fans had unrealistic expectations for him. He was a second-round draft pick, folks, and he hasn't been a disappointment. He certainly has. Do you trust him to make an important catch ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 12 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: No chance Shaq is cut. He is more likely to sign an extension than he is to be cut. He played a nice game. He broke up that pass that he read perfectly and collapsed the pocket so that Harrison Phillips could clean up with that sack. I guess we watched different games. Zay is a guy that would be surprising (but possible). I think guys like Coleman & Munnerlyn are vets that are on the bubble. Daryl Johnson may bump someone else off the roster too. I'd be much less shocked to see Zay traded before he were to get cut. I think the Captain makes the team as he's become Gaines replacement. Think it's his spot to lose possibly by not being able to get up to game speed/shape in time. Same with Shaq, traded, maybe, cut no! Unless they want to either cut Love or keep 5 at DE can see a trade there. Wouldn't be surprised to see one or even two trades this week with surpluses at certain positions like WR, DE, and RB. Maybe Shaq and-or Zay/Foster for a good backup tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billykay Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 3 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: Zay certainly isn’t a “top player.” He was horrendous as a rookie. He graded out as the lowest graded receiver in football. He bounced back last year and was okay. Was he effective last year because the other WRs were so bad or is he now a decent NFL receiver? He also doesn’t have any differentiating skills. He has terrible hands. Zay is no more than a decent route runner. He doesn’t have great short area quickness nor does he stretch the field. Zay is just okay or worse at every skill (besides levitation). If the Bills decide that they need a mix of skill sets he COULD (again not likely) be the odd man out. They could try to trade him for a later round pick (hi Giants) or cut him. Brown, Beasley and Roberts are locks. Foster and Zay are likely. McKenzie is getting close to likely. Ray-Ray, Duke, Phillips, and even Easley are trying to sneak up. It isn’t crazy to me to think that McKenzie passes Zay on the depth chart (if he hasn’t already). The Bills also may want the big body of Duke because they don’t have any size otherwise. They don’t have someone that can make that play he did yesterday. It’s not impossible to me to see the WR depth chart as Brown, Beasley, Foster, McKenzie, Roberts, and Duke. Those are the 6 that I picked in a different topic. I think that Sills & perhaps Bolden go to the PS. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 (edited) 42 minutes ago, dpberr said: Hauschka is my vote. Something isn't right with him. No, it’s Bojorquez that’s left footed. * And it seems the thread is indicating ‘no Croom can catch’. Someone please retrieve my comma. Edited August 17, 2019 by Ridgewaycynic2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 2 hours ago, NoSaint said: who are your two outside receivers if brown misses games? I'd say that player is not yet on the Bills roster. I suspect Beane will be very active in looking for hep in the trade/waiver market over the next two weeks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, The Bills Blog said: Oh my god... The coaching staff vs. the fans on Zay Jones might be the most hilarious thing I've ever seen. Zay Jones is a top player on this roster and is still on his rookie contract. He will not even be a consideration for cuts... I truly don't understand why fans have it out for him so much. I wonder if it's because fans had unrealistic expectations for him. He was a second-round draft pick, folks, and he hasn't been a disappointment. He can't catch, is afraid going over the middle...off field issues...etc....etc....He dropped that pass at the goal line against the colts because he closed his damn eyes when the defender reached his peripheral vision. Edited August 17, 2019 by Azucho98 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 14 minutes ago, Lurker said: I'd say that player is not yet on the Bills roster. I suspect Beane will be very active in looking for hep in the trade/waiver market over the next two weeks... Is that a typo, or are you hoping to sound like James Brown? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 4 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: It’s not impossible to me to see the WR depth chart as Brown, Beasley, Foster, McKenzie, Roberts, and Duke. This would be my preferred day 1 WR corps, but I have to admit Foster is really disappointing me this year. I thought he had a lot to build on at the end of last season but he's completely disappeared. If he ends up not making the team I won't be all that surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 1 hour ago, billykay said: He certainly has. Do you trust him to make an important catch ? I agree that he has been a disappointment as well. I don't trust him to make a non important catch, much less an important one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123719bwiqrb Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Patrick_Duffy said: I agree that he has been a disappointment as well. I don't trust him to make a non important catch, much less an important one. 19 minutes ago, Azucho98 said: He can't catch, is afraid going over the middle...off field issues...etc....etc....He dropped that pass at the goal line against the colts because he closed his damn eyes when the defender reached his peripheral vision. This one hurt in Miami, 3 and 11 with a minute to go: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 41 minutes ago, Lurker said: I'd say that player is not yet on the Bills roster. I suspect Beane will be very active in looking for hep in the trade/waiver market over the next two weeks... If we trade for a solid WR my take could quickly change. On just about any position the same carries true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Trent Murphy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 16 minutes ago, skibum said: Trent Murphy Not with a $6.5 million dead cap hit. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/trent-murphy-14456/ Next year is another matter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffarukus Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 (edited) as for zay...some people are acting as if fans don't understand that rookies take time to develope. a wide reciever that has issues catching passes directly in his hands is a huge issue. nerves for a game or two but after that you need to perform the prime function of your job dependably. maybe you will never develop a full route tree, be in sync with your qb or o coordinator..but catching a good pass? the leash should be short on that and we are going in to year 3. want a lb that cant reliably tackle? a qb that cant throw straight? if passes routinly werent close to zay we can argue about who and why thats happening but when they are in his chest it gets pretty tiring to see the drops continue. Edited August 17, 2019 by Buffarukus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 New order The Kicker McCoy Star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 At this point, Zay. Beane has talked up the kid so much, it would be a surprise based on that. Based on his play, not so much. Duke Williams started making his push for Zay's roster spot with last night's performance, though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: At this point, Zay. Beane has talked up the kid so much, it would be a surprise based on that. Based on his play, not so much. Duke Williams started making his push for Zay's roster spot with last night's performance, though. Yeah I thought Duke had a pretty good game last night. Was great to see him go up top and snag that TD pass. He had a few other catches in the slant. But overall, I thought he did very well. Gona make tough decisions for the coaches here very soon. Edited August 17, 2019 by Patrick_Duffy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 (edited) What are the dates for roster cutdowns this year? Edit: looks like 4pm on the 31st for the final 53 Edited August 17, 2019 by NickelCity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Mantis_Toboggan Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 8 hours ago, The Bills Blog said: Oh my god... The coaching staff vs. the fans on Zay Jones might be the most hilarious thing I've ever seen. Zay Jones is a top player on this roster and is still on his rookie contract. He will not even be a consideration for cuts... I truly don't understand why fans have it out for him so much. I wonder if it's because fans had unrealistic expectations for him. He was a second-round draft pick, folks, and he hasn't been a disappointment. Hardly a “top player on their roster” Over valuing a guy with his drop rate and pedestrian production is “the most hilarious thing I’ve ever seen”(which it’s honestly not, but since we’re going to really overstate our case here, you must not watch many funny things). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codyny13 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 For everyone saying Haushka gets cut...who do you replace him w at this time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Remind me when they usually start making the first round of cuts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Man Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, ToddAllan said: Also, I also expect 2 or 3 surprise TRADES before the season begins. Anyone else think so? Beane could easily get a 4 - 6 round draft pick for one of their young receivers (Foster, McCloud, Phillips, McIntyre, or even Zay Jones) No one is giving a 4th or even 6th for the likes of McCloud or Phillips. Neither has done anything at all, in McCloud's he's looked terrible when he's played. Both are the wrong side of the expected 53 cut. This isn't Madden. 9 minutes ago, skibum said: Remind me when they usually start making the first round of cuts? There aren't multiple rounds any more. It's a single cut to 53 Edited August 17, 2019 by Mountain Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 10 hours ago, The Bills Blog said: Oh my god... The coaching staff vs. the fans on Zay Jones might be the most hilarious thing I've ever seen. Zay Jones is a top player on this roster and is still on his rookie contract. He will not even be a consideration for cuts... I truly don't understand why fans have it out for him so much. I wonder if it's because fans had unrealistic expectations for him. He was a second-round draft pick, folks, and he hasn't been a disappointment. WTH are you saying?? “Unreal expectations” for a 2nd Round pick we traded up to get? WTH would be realistic expectations? Not getting separation? Not catching MOST passes thrown his way? Not strong running routes? I think I’m finally starting to understand your schitck. The BillsBlog is a meme, right? Antithesis of truth? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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