Peterman 50-yard run! ?

[Rocket94]

1 minute ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

...perhaps a 2nd chance?....Barkley for Nate straight up?......sympathy vote ??....

There wouldn't be any restrictions like Wade either. Peterman straight to the 53! Ha!

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

Just now, Rocket94 said:

There wouldn't be any restrictions like Wade either. Peterman straight to the 53! Ha!

...would then be 52 1/2 IMO.........

[TigerJ]

10 hours ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

Even this guy was feeling toasty watching that. (But not @Kirby Jackson, lol)

 

In all seriousness, what is it about preseason that Peterman rocks like a boss??

Vanilla defenses?

[Rocket94]

7 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

...would then be 52 1/2 IMO.........

Well...we know that 1/2 gets us an undefeated preseason!

Edited August 11, 2019 by Rocket94

[Steptide]

I've said it before and I'll say It again. I'm glad the Peterman experiment is over here, but I really hope he makes a team and has a great redemption story. As long as I've been a football fan, I've never seen anyone handle complete failure as well as he did. I give him a ton of credit for that and wish him the best. 

[billsredneck1]

54 minutes ago, uticaclub said:

Peterman was our best QB last 2 preseasons

for all the crap he gets, i'm willing to bet he ends up having a decent career as at least a backup. he'll get the last laugh....kinda like in a few years mason rudolph turns out to be the best qb drafted in 2018.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

Just now, billsredneck1 said:

for all the crap he gets, i'm willing to bet he ends up having a decent career as at least a backup. he'll get the last laugh....kinda like in a few years mason rudolph turns out to be the best qb drafted in 2018.

 

...needs to overcome hives from live ammo versus rubber bullets pre-season........good luck........

[MJS]

9 hours ago, SydneyBillsFan said:

I wish this whole laughing at Peterman thing would stop. He is a thoroughly decent kid who tries his best but is simply not cut out for the NFL. Doesn't mean that he deserves to be ridiculed.

He does get paid a lot of money to not be cut out for the NFL.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

11 hours ago, The Bills Blog said:

 

This to go along with a passing TD and a rating of 115.3, lol

 

He ran for just about as many yards as he threw for. Easily the smartest way for him to play QB based on what we’ve all seen 

[bmur66]

I always knew he was better than what he showed in Buffalo

[Jerome007]

An NFL backup QB males waaaaayyyy more money than he could do anywhere else. So if he can extend his career one season, that's serious cash, and likely fun as hell too.

[Rocket94]

Suggested reading. "Paper Lion" by George Plimpton.

[PromoTheRobot]

See. We've were using him wrong.

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, BurpleBull said:

 

Your initial suggestion was that McDermott kept Peterman from being exposed to a defense's starting unit even once in preseason last year. 

 

There would be no "And after that?", to be posed if what you stated were true. 

 

Simple.

 

Good pickup.

 

 

[billsredneck1]

9 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

See. We've were using him wrong.

we do have to keep in mind the state of the oline last year and not just give josh the pass...let alone it was the 1st 2 games with one in a monsoon....and against 2 of the best defenses.

[Dr. K]

2 hours ago, BurpleBull said:

 

 

What do you mean "And after that"? You said he was kept from facing ANY starters.

 

Each QB's preseason performance and position on the "depth chart" after training camp determined how soon and how much action each saw against the opposition's starting unit; Peterman from most accounts, was the most consistent QB during training camp: He got the first preseason start, McCarron was next, and Josh Allen---who the coaches were bringing along slowly---was last to start.

 

Peterman had a really good showing in his first start; McCarron put up pedestrian numbers before getting hurt in his first start and Josh Allen was granted the chance to move up the depth chart, in relief of McCarron ahead of Peterman; Josh Allen started the very next game, had a bad showing, and Peterman came in to relieve him in that game; McCarron recovered from his injury in time to play the final preseason game, and was given the whole game to make up for loss time due to the injury and to reestablish himself in the competition after his poor performance. 

 

McDermott played each QB from a logical standpoint, based on what each showed. 

 

This is what I remember happening. But the revisionists can't have any facts interfere with their scheduled 20-minute-hate. 

 

[LSHMEAB]

Usually he only reels off these kind of runs from the offense's 45 in a Hail Mary situation. Growth!

[Nextmanup]

Note how he lowered his head at the point of contact and earned another 5 yards as a result!

 

Great run! 

 

He'll never get respect around here for anything, though.  I get it.

 

 

 

[Formerly Allan in MD]

Nate is great - in preseason.

[Kirby Jackson]

34 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

Note how he lowered his head at the point of contact and earned another 5 yards as a result!

 

Great run! 

 

He'll never get respect around here for anything, though.  I get it.

 

 

 

In all seriousness, he’s underrated as a runner. He’s pretty effective when he takes off and he isn’t scared.

[JohnC]

2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Matt Barkley is 174-291, 59.8% completion, 7.4 YPA, 10 TDs & 18 INTs, with a 68.3 rating in his career. 

 

Nate is 68-130, 52.3% completion, 4.2 YPA, 3 TDs & 12 INTs, with a 32.5 rating in his career.

 

Nate ISN’T a “Matt Barkley type.” That’s an insult to Barkley (who hasn’t exactly been Joe Montana). Barkley has been more than twice as effective as Nate. 

 

I promise that I'm done in this thread. Just want to provide FACTS to show just how bad Nate has been. Anyone can pick the worst QB that they can think of with at least 130 attempts and put them side-by-side. He will be worse. He was literally that bad. The worst that has ever played.

If Peterman makes the team it is because he competed for a spot and won out. You will not see me arguing that he has played well when he was with us. But that doesn't mean that he is incapable of playing better and earning a spot as a backup. 

 

I simply don't understand why you have made this Peterman issue a do or die cause. A coach has given him an opportunity to make a squad as a backup. He either demonstrates on the field that he is good enough to make the roster, or not.  What's wrong with that?  

 

If Peterman makes the Raider roster you will be receiving in the mail a "cease and desist" order requiring you to stand down. Just leave this young and earnest fellow alone! 

[SirAndrew]

2 hours ago, billsredneck1 said:

for all the crap he gets, i'm willing to bet he ends up having a decent career as at least a backup. he'll get the last laugh....kinda like in a few years mason rudolph turns out to be the best qb drafted in 2018.

Mason Rudolph becoming the best QB drafted in 2018 seems like a huge stretch for anyone who isn’t an OK State fan. 

[BullBuchanan]

51 minutes ago, SirAndrew said:

Mason Rudolph becoming the best QB drafted in 2018 seems like a huge stretch for anyone who isn’t an OK State fan. 

I think he'll be #2 behind Mayfield.

[Kirby Jackson]

2 hours ago, JohnC said:

If Peterman makes the team it is because he competed for a spot and won out. You will not see me arguing that he has played well when he was with us. But that doesn't mean that he is incapable of playing better and earning a spot as a backup. 

 

I simply don't understand why you have made this Peterman issue a do or die cause. A coach has given him an opportunity to make a squad as a backup. He either demonstrates on the field that he is good enough to make the roster, or not.  What's wrong with that?  

 

If Peterman makes the Raider roster you will be receiving in the mail a "cease and desist" order requiring you to stand down. Just leave this young and earnest fellow alone! 

You said that he was “a Matt Barkley type.” I stuck their numbers next to each other demonstrating that Barkley has been twice as effective. It’s fine that Peterman is getting a shot. We just shouldn’t overrate who he is by calling him a “Barkley type.” We should say that “”he is historically the worst qB of all-time and is getting another shot.” That’s an accurate statement.

[billsredneck1]

2 hours ago, SirAndrew said:

Mason Rudolph becoming the best QB drafted in 2018 seems like a huge stretch for anyone who isn’t an OK State fan. 

i was ( not knowing about the research mcbeane put into allen) ...an advocate for staying put an drafting rudolph. i was hoping for vita vea and then rudolph followed with washington at wr and then i forget who at lb. so far with vea, i feel wrong , but when big ben hangs up the cleats, i  can't see the steelers missing a beat. like the pats, they seem to know how to keep on truckin.

[C.Biscuit97]

1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said:

You said that he was “a Matt Barkley type.” I stuck their numbers next to each other demonstrating that Barkley has been twice as effective. It’s fine that Peterman is getting a shot. We just shouldn’t overrate who he is by calling him a “Barkley type.” We should say that “”he is historically the worst qB of all-time and is getting another shot.” That’s an accurate statement.

It sucks because I’m sure he is a great and a lot of this isn’t his fault.  McDermott put the guy in and he had no business playing.  We love saying guys like JP and EJ are terrible.  But they at least have nfl arms.  Peterman does not.  

 

This is why preseason is both the best and worst.  It’s awesome to have football back and on a bunch of days during the week.  But you really aren’t getting an accurate view of how good players are.  No real gameplanning, very vanilla schemes, against a lot of guys who aren’t going to be in the nfl.  Good for Peterman for getting a paycheck but I’m so happy he isn’t on our team anymore.  It was pretty funny watching him because it was so bad and so many fans pumped him up. 

[LSHMEAB]

3 hours ago, JohnC said:

If Peterman makes the team it is because he competed for a spot and won out. You will not see me arguing that he has played well when he was with us. But that doesn't mean that he is incapable of playing better and earning a spot as a backup. 

He's capable of "earning" a spot as a starter against vanilla defenses and backups.

 

He's not capable of filling even a backup role (adequately) when the real bullets start flying. Kid just doesn't have the pre-requisite arm strength to be an NFL QB.

 

Matt Barkley is a serviceable backup QB. I wouldn't put Barkley and Peterman in the same category.

[C.Biscuit97]

Just now, LSHMEAB said:

He's capable of "earning" a spot as a starter against vanilla defenses and backups.

 

He's not capable of filling even a backup role (adequately) when the real bullets start flying. Kid just doesn't have the pre-requisite arm strength to be an NFL QB.

 

Matt Barkley is a serviceable backup QB. I wouldn't put Barkley and Peterman in the same category.

Agreed and Barkley is barely serviceable but he has a little stronger arm.  It’s kinda terrible how many bad qbs there are in the league.  Not many Frank Reichs out there. 

[SirAndrew]

50 minutes ago, billsredneck1 said:

i was ( not knowing about the research mcbeane put into allen) ...an advocate for staying put an drafting rudolph. i was hoping for vita vea and then rudolph followed with washington at wr and then i forget who at lb. so far with vea, i feel wrong , but when big ben hangs up the cleats, i  can't see the steelers missing a beat. like the pats, they seem to know how to keep on truckin.

I hear ya, just not sold on Rudolph. The Steelers have been one of the league’s most consistently successful franchises. Historically they’ve had continued success while transitioning from one era to the next. I’m not convinced that will continue once Big Ben retires. Roethlisberger has carried that team on his back the past few seasons. The legendary Pittsburgh D has always been there throughout the years, but hasn’t been strong in recent memory. Tomlin has had the luxury of coaching an elite QB his entire career. There have been plenty of Tomlin doubters, and he’d no longer be with the team if they didn’t value strong continuity. Rudolph wouldn’t be stepping into that great of a situation imo. 

[JohnC]

14 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said:

He's capable of "earning" a spot as a starter against vanilla defenses and backups.

 

He's not capable of filling even a backup role (adequately) when the real bullets start flying. Kid just doesn't have the pre-requisite arm strength to be an NFL QB.

 

Matt Barkley is a serviceable backup QB. I wouldn't put Barkley and Peterman in the same category.

Ultimately, it is what Gruden thinks. I can't say for sure but I wouldn't be surprised if he makes the team. 

[JohnC]

2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

You said that he was “a Matt Barkley type.” I stuck their numbers next to each other demonstrating that Barkley has been twice as effective. It’s fine that Peterman is getting a shot. We just shouldn’t overrate who he is by calling him a “Barkley type.” We should say that “”he is historically the worst qB of all-time and is getting another shot.” That’s an accurate statement.

A "cease and desist" order is being prepared for you if/when he makes the roster. You will be required to abide by the legal notice once it is in effect. If you don't you will be considered to be a scofflaw. Be careful. Once your reputation is tarnished it will be difficult to rehabilitate. ? 

Edited August 11, 2019 by JohnC
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[billsredneck1]

1 hour ago, SirAndrew said:

I hear ya, just not sold on Rudolph. The Steelers have been one of the league’s most consistently successful franchises. Historically they’ve had continued success while transitioning from one era to the next. I’m not convinced that will continue once Big Ben retires. Roethlisberger has carried that team on his back the past few seasons. The legendary Pittsburgh D has always been there throughout the years, but hasn’t been strong in recent memory. Tomlin has had the luxury of coaching an elite QB his entire career. There have been plenty of Tomlin doubters, and he’d no longer be with the team if they didn’t value strong continuity. Rudolph wouldn’t be stepping into that great of a situation imo. 

 

1 hour ago, JohnC said:

A "cease and desist" order is being prepared for you if/when he makes the roster. You will be required to abide by the legal notice once it is in effect. If you don't you will be considered to be a scofflaw. Be careful. Once your reputation is tarnished it will be difficult to rehabilitate. ? 

 

1 hour ago, SirAndrew said:

I hear ya, just not sold on Rudolph. The Steelers have been one of the league’s most consistently successful franchises. Historically they’ve had continued success while transitioning from one era to the next. I’m not convinced that will continue once Big Ben retires. Roethlisberger has carried that team on his back the past few seasons. The legendary Pittsburgh D has always been there throughout the years, but hasn’t been strong in recent memory. Tomlin has had the luxury of coaching an elite QB his entire career. There have been plenty of Tomlin doubters, and he’d no longer be with the team if they didn’t value strong continuity. Rudolph wouldn’t be stepping into that great of a situation imo. 

i don't get the john c thing..but when ben hangs up the cleats, i t will be rudolph to juju and washington way better than to a...douchebag brown. the steeleres will be back...and i'm a bills fan

[Rocket94]

2 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

It sucks because I’m sure he is a great and a lot of this isn’t his fault.  McDermott put the guy in and he had no business playing.  We love saying guys like JP and EJ are terrible.  But they at least have nfl arms.  Peterman does not.  

 

This is why preseason is both the best and worst.  It’s awesome to have football back and on a bunch of days during the week.  But you really aren’t getting an accurate view of how good players are.  No real gameplanning, very vanilla schemes, against a lot of guys who aren’t going to be in the nfl.  Good for Peterman for getting a paycheck but I’m so happy he isn’t on our team anymore.  It was pretty funny watching him because it was so bad and so many fans pumped him up. 

When Peterman had a few quality games in 2017, people in my office at the time were seriously talking Super Bowl. I didn't want to call them delusional so I let it go. Shortly after that the talk stopped!

[eball]

18 minutes ago, Rocket94 said:

When Peterman had a few quality games in 2017

A few quality snaps, perhaps. Nate Peterman has never put together even one, much less “a few,” quality games in the regular season. 

[Rocket94]

3 minutes ago, eball said:

A few quality snaps, perhaps. Nate Peterman has never put together even one, much less “a few,” quality games in the regular season. 

Ha! Then it was worse than I thought!

[GreggTX]

It's unreal how great he is in preseason and how unbelievably bad he is in regular season. I've been watching pro football for over 50 years and I've never seen anyone like him. Amazing.

[ROCBillsBeliever]

22 hours ago, Augie said:

He learned from Josh! What would it take to get him back from Gruden? Would you give up a 2nd or 3rd?  

 

 

 

?

Nut?

[billsredneck1]

5 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Agreed and Barkley is barely serviceable but he has a little stronger arm.  It’s kinda terrible how many bad qbs there are in the league.  Not many Frank Reichs out there. 

i;m glad we have barkley. couldn't find a better no.2.

5 hours ago, SirAndrew said:

I hear ya, just not sold on Rudolph. The Steelers have been one of the league’s most consistently successful franchises. Historically they’ve had continued success while transitioning from one era to the next. I’m not convinced that will continue once Big Ben retires. Roethlisberger has carried that team on his back the past few seasons. The legendary Pittsburgh D has always been there throughout the years, but hasn’t been strong in recent memory.tomlim has had the luxury of coaching an elite QB his entire career. There have been plenty of Tomlin doubters, and he’d no longer be with the team if they didn’t value strong continuity. Rudolph wouldn’t be stepping into that great of a situation imo. 

i think by the time  mason gets the reigns, the steelers will have a new coach.

[Dr.Sack]

Nate Peterman is a backup NFL QB. 

[Rocky Landing]

13 hours ago, Steptide said:

I've said it before and I'll say It again. I'm glad the Peterman experiment is over here, but I really hope he makes a team and has a great redemption story. As long as I've been a football fan, I've never seen anyone handle complete failure as well as he did. I give him a ton of credit for that and wish him the best. 

That's a great point. He really was spectacular at failing.