Rocket94 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 13 minutes ago, bargepole said: You guys are nuts. He has played, what, 10 minutes in 2 NFL games? In Rugby, he is used to playing a full 80 minutes taking part in offensive and defensive plays. He will be at least as fit as any NFL player. A few years back, we had an American boy, ex-College Footballer, who came along to try out for my local Rugby club. For 2 minutes, he was the best player on the field, bursting through tackles and making a lot of metres (yes we have to make metres, not yards, so it's even tougher). But after that, he was looking to the sidelines for the oxygen mask - sorry pal, there isn't one, you just keep going. If they keep him as an RB, I can see some special plays being devised involving him and Josh Allen - one of them making the initial run, then offloading the ball to the other to finish it off (what you Americans quaintly call a 'lateral'). That will have the other teams' defence coaches scratching their heads. He can pitch it back to Allen! Josh knows what to do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 42 minutes ago, mannc said: He’ll be 29 years old next year...it’s now or never. Well if its a now or never then never. Way to big of a gamble. We have more talented players at needed depth positions to take up a spot on a big time project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 36 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: True. But they use the metric system. So he’s 27 in our years. ...what is it is Kelly the Dog years though?.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 38 minutes ago, Rocket94 said: I am just trying to be optimistic. Let us see how he does first against better competition. I do support the PS option if it comes down to that. If Wade proves to make the Bills a better team then he has to be considered, even if seems to be some "alternative" approach. Wade is demonstrating good recognition and instinctual skills as well. Nothing wrong with optimism. I too see Wade with some optimism. Just know we have plenty of positions that have more depth concerns then a project RB who has never played American football before 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 (edited) 33 minutes ago, ddaryl said: Nothing wrong with optimism. I too see Wade with some optimism. Just know we have plenty of positions that have more depth concerns then a project RB who has never played American football before Oh I get it, and understand the other depth concerns. I am just opening up a possibility. I just want this team to win again, and to be open to new ideas and perhaps think outside the box. Edited August 17, 2019 by Rocket94 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dkollidas Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 18 minutes ago, ddaryl said: Well if its a now or never then never. Way to big of a gamble. We have more talented players at needed depth positions to take up a spot on a big time project Your 4th running back spot/special teamer isn’t something worth taking a gamble on? I think in limited viewings Wade has shown that his speed and agility are at an elite level. That alone should give him a good shot at the 53. If he can do this over next two pre-season games, I would think they’d have to at least give him strong considerations for the 53-man roster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW82 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 (edited) The TD run vs. Colts was great but he wasn't touched and you could discount it some if that was all you'd seen. I don't think you can fake the catch and run vs. Panthers regardless of how badly they tackled. This guy is a gamer with experience competing against the best in the world in another sport and being a star while doing so. I like Murphy but I'd rather take a chance on a guy with star talent. Edited August 17, 2019 by VW82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revealingstorm Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Some one on another forum said that Wade could still be picked up after being cut but before he was put on the practice squad www.cincyjungle.com/platform/amp/2018/9/1/17808772/nfl-practice-squad-2018-eligibility-pay-rules-changing-teams-what-to-know The NFL will assign the player The team can note a few players of interest If he makes the team after camp, he would count against the 53-man roster **The player getting cut after camp would still go through waivers as usual** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 51 minutes ago, bargepole said: You guys are nuts. He has played, what, 10 minutes in 2 NFL games? In Rugby, he is used to playing a full 80 minutes taking part in offensive and defensive plays. He will be at least as fit as any NFL player. A few years back, we had an American boy, ex-College Footballer, who came along to try out for my local Rugby club. For 2 minutes, he was the best player on the field, bursting through tackles and making a lot of metres (yes we have to make metres, not yards, so it's even tougher). But after that, he was looking to the sidelines for the oxygen mask - sorry pal, there isn't one, you just keep going. If they keep him as an RB, I can see some special plays being devised involving him and Josh Allen - one of them making the initial run, then offloading the ball to the other to finish it off (what you Americans quaintly call a 'lateral'). That will have the other teams' defence coaches scratching their heads. That would work in college football but they don't run options with laterals in the NFL for a reason It will get your QB killed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revealingstorm Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 1 hour ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said: 100% correct. I thought that at first too now I'm not so sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Rocket94 said: Perhaps I am being progressive, but if there is a player performing like Wade, you find somewhere for him on this roster now. Nope because he still does not understand the nuances of the position. People love the runs, but if he can’t pick up a blitz - he gets your starting QB killed. If he is not familiar with the correct swing route - he gets your QB killed. He is still learning how to take a handoff. I love what he is doing, but he needs time to learn. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 1 hour ago, mannc said: finish that sentence... When he came to Buffalo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 We don't really know just how much juice this kid has got. Obviously the coaches have a better idea. He certainly is a tease though. If the game breaking traits he has flashed are completely legit the Bills might have a decision to make regarding this year's roster. Those types of players are few, far between and valuable. If he's truly the next Human Joystick it might be hard to pass on him. If he can run back punts and kickoffs, albeit in a backup role, I could see him edging out Perry, though of course that wouldn't guarantee him a spot either. There is no way IMO that he bumps a legit veteran RB like Yeldon however. My guess is that the option to stash him as a protected PS player will be just too attractive and easy for the Bills. It's too bad that he can't be promoted in season. Not sure I see the reason for that rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, starrymessenger said: We don't really know just how much juice this kid has got. Obviously the coaches have a better idea. He certainly is a tease though. If the game breaking traits he has flashed are completely legit the Bills might have a decision to make regarding this year's roster. Those types of players are few, far between and valuable. If he's truly the next Human Joystick it might be hard to pass on him. If he can run back punts and kickoffs, albeit in a backup role, I could see him edging out Perry, though of course that wouldn't guarantee him a spot either. There is no way IMO that he bumps a legit veteran RB like Yeldon however. My guess is that the option to stash him as a protected PS player will be just too attractive and easy for the Bills. It's too bad that he can't be promoted in season. Not sure I see the reason for that rule. I am guessing it is because of the Exemptions provided by the Allocated team for Both camp and the PS. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 10 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: I am guessing it is because of the Exemptions provided by the Allocated team for Both camp and the PS. The whole question is how are these players treated after cuts. Do they go thru waivers or not. That question is not completely defined in the rules we all have read. It seems to me that someone like John Wawrow needs to ask that question to the Bills Front Office. Maybe someone here can tweet him to see if he will ask. Personally I read it as he doesn't go thru waivers but like I said it's not specified. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: The whole question is how are these players treated after cuts. Do they go thru waivers or not. That question is not completely defined in the rules we all have read. It seems to me that someone like John Wawrow needs to ask that question to the Bills Front Office. Maybe someone here can tweet him to see if he will ask. Personally I read it as he doesn't go thru waivers but like I said it's not specified. I have questions out. But seems like what some are saying by how their tweets worded he is not eligible to play in 2019 unless he makes Bills 53. Otherwise sits on PS this year. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Rocket94 said: He can pitch it back to Allen! Josh knows what to do! or vice versa eh ? : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Just now, 3rdand12 said: or vice versa eh ? : ) Why not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 23 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: The whole question is how are these players treated after cuts. Do they go thru waivers or not. That question is not completely defined in the rules we all have read. It seems to me that someone like John Wawrow needs to ask that question to the Bills Front Office. Maybe someone here can tweet him to see if he will ask. Personally I read it as he doesn't go thru waivers but like I said it's not specified. Here is what you need to know about the international practice squad spot: The NFL will assign the player The team can note a few players of interest If he makes the team after camp, he would count against the 53-man roster The player getting cut after camp would still go through waivers as usual If the team then chooses to re-sign him after clearing waivers he would officially become the 11th practice squad player 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, ddaryl said: Here is what you need to know about the international practice squad spot: The NFL will assign the player The team can note a few players of interest If he makes the team after camp, he would count against the 53-man roster The player getting cut after camp would still go through waivers as usual If the team then chooses to re-sign him after clearing waivers he would officially become the 11th practice squad player thanks for clarifying the matter : ) well done 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 59 minutes ago, ddaryl said: Here is what you need to know about the international practice squad spot: The NFL will assign the player The team can note a few players of interest If he makes the team after camp, he would count against the 53-man roster The player getting cut after camp would still go through waivers as usual If the team then chooses to re-sign him after clearing waivers he would officially become the 11th practice squad player Makes a great deal more sense this way than Buffalo having exclusive rights even if they cut him. Yes he was allocated to the Bills but if they choose to release him and another club wants him on the 53, he should be fair game through waivers in my opinion. I'd still love to see clear confirmation one way or another 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 1 minute ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said: Makes a great deal more sense this way than Buffalo having exclusive rights even if they cut him. Yes he was allocated to the Bills but if they choose to release him and another club wants him on the 53, he should be fair game through waivers in my opinion. I'd still love to see clear confirmation one way or another Imo, based off his limited use they wanted to sneak him on P.S. After those 2 plays on what 3 or 4 touches that is going to be highly unlikely. Imo Wade has earned more reps and with the second team offense. If he continues to make plays you find a spot. I dont care what the perception of him is. He has the 2 biggest plays of the preseason on limited touches. Lets see if he continues to make plays vs better defenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said: Makes a great deal more sense this way than Buffalo having exclusive rights even if they cut him. Yes he was allocated to the Bills but if they choose to release him and another club wants him on the 53, he should be fair game through waivers in my opinion. I'd still love to see clear confirmation one way or another its clear. He either makes the squad or gets cut and goes to waivers. If he gets cut a team can claim him off waivers and put him on their 53 man active roster. However if he clears waivers the Bill's have the right to include him as the 11th practice squad player. As the 11th PS squad player he is not eligible for call up for the year My question is if he makes the 53 but gets cut week 1 and clears waivers, and then he is added to the PS after being active is he eligible for call up during the season if needed ? I will say this I hope he does get a game with 10 or so touches against 1st/2nd stringers because I think it will bring many of the fans here back to reality. Edited August 17, 2019 by ddaryl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 I see a very bright future for this young man if not in 2019, then 2020. Singletary looks good too. Could we be a more balanced team? Who knows? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwhit34 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 He is a terrific story so far, his two plays have made the preseason more palatable. But, like so many RBs in past preseasons, he has made 2 plays against defenders who are going to get cut. the other reality is that with all the cuts coming at once, teams are looking to keep their own for practice squad or finding positions they need to shore up for backups. Vets with some experience are the ones who will be scooped up. Wade is still a big time project. Projects go on the practice squad and he will be on the Bills’ PS. Remember he is also 28 years old and while he doesn’t have football mileage on his legs he does have rugby miles. The only 28 year olds being picked up off waivers are ones who can contribute day one. great story but too many people are way over their skis on this one which seems to happen almost every preseason with a RB. This one is more unique but same type of thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 https://www.yahoo.com/sports/another-week-another-great-play-104812429.html Another week, another great play from Bills’ rugby star Christian Wade When Christian Wade gave up his professional rugby career in his native England to sign with the Bills, few thought he had much of a chance of making it in the NFL. He’s doing his best to make his doubters look dumb. After running for a 65-yard touchdown in his first preseason carry last week, Wade made another sensational play on Friday night. cont..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 17 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: https://www.yahoo.com/sports/another-week-another-great-play-104812429.html Another week, another great play from Bills’ rugby star Christian Wade When Christian Wade gave up his professional rugby career in his native England to sign with the Bills, few thought he had much of a chance of making it in the NFL. He’s doing his best to make his doubters look dumb. After running for a 65-yard touchdown in his first preseason carry last week, Wade made another sensational play on Friday night. cont..... Funny link: title and article all Wade, video all about Shady. Interesting comments there, though. I thought they might talk about Wade and maybe show a highlight? (One of the only two....) I’ll say it again, I have no idea if he can make the 53, or clear waivers for the PS, but I sure do want to see him get more touches. He’s exciting! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 I don’t write them. I just CopyPaste ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakeBuffaloGreatAgain Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 He needs to learn how to catch a low thrown ball though... but he is still impressive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 1 minute ago, MakeBuffaloGreatAgain said: He needs to learn how to catch a low thrown ball though... but he is still impressive That’s 80 % of the NFL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 3 hours ago, jwhit34 said: He is a terrific story so far, his two plays have made the preseason more palatable. But, like so many RBs in past preseasons, he has made 2 plays against defenders who are going to get cut. the other reality is that with all the cuts coming at once, teams are looking to keep their own for practice squad or finding positions they need to shore up for backups. Vets with some experience are the ones who will be scooped up. Wade is still a big time project. Projects go on the practice squad and he will be on the Bills’ PS. Remember he is also 28 years old and while he doesn’t have football mileage on his legs he does have rugby miles. The only 28 year olds being picked up off waivers are ones who can contribute day one. great story but too many people are way over their skis on this one which seems to happen almost every preseason with a RB. This one is more unique but same type of thing. If it's so easy, why dont the other backs on the roster and around the league make similar plays? There is something to him. He isnt a major project in my eyes, he is a guy you put in space and let him run to open grass. I'm not asking him to pick up a blitz on third down, I'm throwing him a designed swing pass with a lead blocker, jet sweeps, or screens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, ddaryl said: Here is what you need to know about the international practice squad spot: The NFL will assign the player The team can note a few players of interest If he makes the team after camp, he would count against the 53-man roster The player getting cut after camp would still go through waivers as usual If the team then chooses to re-sign him after clearing waivers he would officially become the 11th practice squad player Don't know if this is correct, But I'll put it here. Edited August 18, 2019 by LOVEMESOMEBILLS 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAGA-Man Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 5 hours ago, GreggTX said: I see a very bright future for this young man if not in 2019, then 2020. Singletary looks good too. Could we be a more balanced team? Who knows? But he's not young, he's 28 years old... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 25 minutes ago, MAGA-Man said: But he's not young, he's 28 years old... So he’s 28. As I have said multiple times Fred Jackson came to Buffalo at the same age. Players can and have been productive. Ergo there shouldn’t be an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 31 minutes ago, MAGA-Man said: But he's not young, he's 28 years old... Lol, 28 is definitely NOT old. I consider that still young and in prime. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAGA-Man Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, Patrick_Duffy said: Lol, 28 is definitely NOT old. I consider that still young and in prime. He's had a full rugby career, all the associated wear and tear etc. 28 isn't old, but for an NFL RB it is. Yes, there are exceptions, but I'd rather just keep drafting early 20 year old's and recycling them every 3 -4 years never having to pay them big money. Wade is a cool story, but I doubt he makes the 53, they already have too many RB's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 1 hour ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said: Don't know if this is correct, But I'll put it here. So he can't be taken off of waivers but at the end of the season he becomes an unrestricted free agent that last part kinda sucks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, Warcodered said: So he can't be taken off of waivers but at the end of the season he becomes an unrestricted free agent that last part kinda sucks. If everything is going well with him and the Bills, they could already have a deal in place before he even becomes a free agent. I have a feeling he would give them first crack. The old stigma of no one wants to play for the Bills is finally dying, once they get here players tend to love the team, the fans & the city. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, Warcodered said: So he can't be taken off of waivers but at the end of the season he becomes an unrestricted free agent that last part kinda sucks. IF and it's a big IF, the Bills and another team wanted to sign him it will be to an entry 500k type contract. Being he has been with the Bills I would think he would sign with Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 7 hours ago, ColoradoBills said: The whole question is how are these players treated after cuts. Do they go thru waivers or not. That question is not completely defined in the rules we all have read. It seems to me that someone like John Wawrow needs to ask that question to the Bills Front Office. Maybe someone here can tweet him to see if he will ask. Personally I read it as he doesn't go thru waivers but like I said it's not specified. I tweeted Sal C earlier today no response yet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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