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1 hour ago, unbillievable said:

 So another team can't put Wade on their 53 after he is cut by the Bills, but before he is placed on the practice squad?

 

 

 

No he has been allocated to the Bills. 

24 minutes ago, TPS said:

He's not ready for prime time. I doubt he's going to Play STs, so anyone who would try to poach him would have to stash him on the 53. 

It appears you're saying, though, that, as the designated transition player, the Bills can assign him to the PS without going through waivers? 

Thanks.

 

Correct. He has a direct path the the PS. It is part of the program if he doesn’t make the 53 out of camp he goes right to PS and is Bills player for the year. Can’t be called up just developed on PS until he signs his Futures Contract at the end of the year. 

51 minutes ago, Frez said:

I'd find a spot for this kid on our opening day roster. He has some type of special play making ability when you see him run. 

 

This is what we have been missing! I'm on board with team Wade.

 

You are making this assessment on a couple plays against future insurance salesmen?

44 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Yup. 

 

Impossible by rules of the program 

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1 minute ago, MAJBobby said:

 

No he has been allocated to the Bills. 

 

Where does it say that he is exclusive to Buffalo?

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48 minutes ago, Frez said:

I'd find a spot for this kid on our opening day roster. He has some type of special play making ability when you see him run. 

 

This is what we have been missing! I'm on board with team Wade.

The Bills may have to flip the script on this one, and find a way to get Wade on the field. I would like to see some 1st team reps.

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2 minutes ago, unbillievable said:

 

Where does it say that he is exclusive to Buffalo?

 

For the 2019 NFL season, the AFC East has been chosen at random as the division that receive international players as a part of the International Player Development Program should they not be signed to free agent contracts. The AFC East follows the NFC South (2017) and AFC North (2018) as divisions participating in this program. At the conclusion of training camp, players will be eligible for an international player practice squad exemption on an AFC East team with teams being given an exemption for an eleventh practice squad member - ineligible to be activated during the season.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001024156/article/international-player-pathway-program-pro-day%3fnetworkId=4595&site=.news&zone=story&zoneUrl=url%3Dstory&zoneKeys=s1%3Dstory&env=&pageKeyValues=team%3Dcin%3Bteam%3Datl%3Bteam%3Dcar%3Bteam%3Darz%3Bteam%3Ddal%3Bteam%3Dphi%3Bteam%3Dmin%3Bconf%3Dafc%3Bconf%3Dnfc%3Bdvsn%3Dacn%3Bdvsn%3Dncs%3Bdvsn%3Dncw%3Bdvsn%3Dnce%3Bdvsn%3Dncn&sr=amp

 

he makes the Bills 53 or he is on Bills 11 man PS.

 

 

So he gets Off the International Pathway Program at the end of the year IF he signs a Futures contract. 

 

Only chance he has to another teams 53 is 2020 if he signs a Futures contract.  

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11 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

 

No he has been allocated to the Bills. 

 

Correct. He has a direct path the the PS. It is part of the program if he doesn’t make the 53 out of camp he goes right to PS and is Bills player for the year. Can’t be called up just developed on PS until he signs his Futures Contract at the end of the year. 

 

You are making this assessment on a couple plays against future insurance salesmen?

 

Impossible by rules of the program 

 

The rules of the program say he is eligible for the international squad exemption.

It does say he can make the regular Practice squad as well as the 53, not that he goes straight to the 11th spot on the PS after training camp.

 

I don't see where he DOESN'T go through waivers, or that another team can't sign him to their 53, especially since they go through cuts like any other player.

 

 

5 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

 

For the 2019 NFL season, the AFC East has been chosen at random as the division that receive international players as a part of the International Player Development Program should they not be signed to free agent contracts. The AFC East follows the NFC South (2017) and AFC North (2018) as divisions participating in this program. At the conclusion of training camp, players will be eligible for an international player practice squad exemption on an AFC East team with teams being given an exemption for an eleventh practice squad member - ineligible to be activated during the season.

 

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3 minutes ago, unbillievable said:

 

The rules of the program say he is eligible for the international squad.

It also says he can make the regular Practice squad as well as the 53.

 

I don't see where he DOESN'T go through waivers.

 

 

The Bills and the other three AFC East clubs each get a roster exemption from the NFL, allowing them to carry 91 players on their roster instead of the typical 90-player offseason roster.

At the conclusion of training camp, players will be eligible for an international player practice squad exemption with teams being given an exemption for an eleventh practice squad member – ineligible to be activated during the season.  

 

 

 

Again the Training camp exemption can become a PS exemption. It is the Bills 53 or Bills PS. That is how this program works. 

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10 minutes ago, Rocket94 said:

The Bills may have to flip the script on this one, and find a way to get Wade on the field. I would like to see some 1st team reps.

Preseason game 4. I think he will get a ton of action.

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15 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

 

The Bills and the other three AFC East clubs each get a roster exemption from the NFL, allowing them to carry 91 players on their roster instead of the typical 90-player offseason roster.

At the conclusion of training camp, players will be eligible for an international player practice squad exemption with teams being given an exemption for an eleventh practice squad member – ineligible to be activated during the season.  

 

 

 

Again the Training camp exemption can become a PS exemption. It is the Bills 53 or Bills PS. That is how this program works. 

 

The program works to give international players a second chance to make the roster... after they are cut. Which seems odd to make them go through if they go straight to the PS.

 

What you're suggesting is that the rules force them on the Practice Squad regardless of how they do, good or bad. That makes no sense considering news articles highlighting these players getting CUT, then having them wait to see if the team takes the OPTION of the 11th exemption or not.

 

Nothing you've shown says they are EXCLUSIVE, only that the Bills have more options. To be fair, I have nothing to show that they are NOT exclusive, either. Can't seem to find that info on the internet. Draft picks don't get these exclusive protections if they don't make the 53, why would INTL players?

 

 

 

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20 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Preseason game 4. I think he will get a ton of action.

I hope that Wade does see extended action. We need to see more of him. If he continues to play like this on the first team, then it could turn in to an embarrassment down the line if they don't put him on the 53 man. I don't see anything special about the Bills current RBs outside of the potential of Singletary. Frank Gore is well...Frank Gore! A wonderful testament of conditioning and endurance. Then the Shady dilemma...what version is going to show up? Is he done? Will he rediscover his youth one more time?

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9 minutes ago, unbillievable said:

 

The program works to give international players a second chance to make the roster... after they are cut. Which seems odd to make them go through if they go straight to the PS.

 

What you're suggesting is that the rules force them on the Practice Squad regardless of how they do, good or bad. That makes no sense considering news articles highlighting these players getting CUT, then having them wait to see if the team takes the OPTION of the 11th exemption or not. Draft picks don't get these protections, why would INTL players?

 

Nothing you've shown says they are EXCLUSIVE, only that the Bills have more options. To be fair, I have nothing to show that they are NOT exclusive, either. Can't seem to find that info on the internet.

 

 

 

 

That is EXACTLY how the Program works. They have the chance to sign as a Future UFA at end of season and be a normal player. They where not signed and chose to be part of this program. 

 

Hence why AFCE has been given 91 slots in Camp and 11 slots on PS. He makes the Bills 53 or he continues his development on Bills PS. 

 

If At the end of the season Bills sign him or ANY steam signs him to a futures deal now he is a normal NFL player. If he goes Unsigned again he can be a part of the program again where he will be ALLOCATED To a team. That is how the program works.

 

so he will be a Bill in 2019. And it isn’t like the Bills scouts picked him.  He was ALLOCATED to Buffalo via random draw. 

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There is no scenario that puts Wade on our Active roster this year.


This is a guy who has never played American football till this year. His rugby background gives him an advantage but he will need at least a year on a PS to truly be ready to take a roster spot IMO. So much about this game this man still needs tol absorb. But I sure hope the Bills take advantage and get him on our PS and a real shot next year.

 

 

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Four players that participated in the program in 2018 -- Moritz Böhringer (Cincinnati Bengals), Christopher Ezeala (Baltimore Ravens), Tigie Sankoh (Cleveland Browns) and Christian Scotland-Williamson(Pittsburgh Steelers) -- will return to their NFC North teams for the upcoming season.

 

 

Now when these players get above will be free to sign anywhere as they where not part of this years Pathway Program because they signed Futures deals at the end of 2018 with each of their teams 

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All the info on how Wade can make the PS is in the other thread. 

 

He can make the 53 or be placed on the PS where he has to stay for the season and is protected from being “stolen” by any other team. 

 

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There is still nothing that says another team can't sign him to their roster if the Bills cut him on cutdown day.  It appears that the assumption is that if the Bills don't sign him to their roster, no other team would want him and thus he would go to the PS.

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1 minute ago, MAJBobby said:

 

That is EXACTLY how the Program works. They have the chance to sign as a Future UFA at end of season and be a normal player. They where not signed and chose to be part of this program. 

 

Hence why AFCE has been given 91 slots in Camp and 11 slots on PS. He makes the Bills 53 or he continues his development on Bills PS. 

 

If At the end of the season Bills sign him or ANY steam signs him to a futures deal now he is a normal NFL player. If he goes Unsigned again he can be a part of the program again where he will be ALLOCATED To a team. That is how the program works.

 

so he will be a Bill in 2019. 

 

So you're saying that WADE is not really an NFL player. He's just a water-boy or mascot, getting to hang out with the team and occasionally get on the field.

 

So the entire charade of practices, cutting the guy at the end of camp, making him wait to see if he gets signed to the practice squad is way to acclimate the guy to what it would feel like if any of it was real?

 

Seems harsh.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, ddaryl said:

There is no scenario that puts Wade on our Active roster this year.

 

 

I love when people on this site say there is zero chance something will happen, when in fact they have zero idea whether it will or not...

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I think Wade makes it to the PS.  

 

Teams scouring cuts aren’t looking for projects.  They are looking for guys to make their 53.  

 

Guys like Duke Williams and Darryl Johnson are riskier PS hopefuls than a Christian Wade or Vosean Joseph.  

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Just now, SCBills said:

I think Wade makes it to the PS.  

 

Teams scouring cuts aren’t looking for projects.  They are looking for guys to make their 53.  

 

Guys like Duke Williams and Darryl Johnson are riskier PS hopefuls than a Christian Wade or Vosean Joseph.  

 

I think we over-inflate the importance of our trash players. Every team thinks they have someone that will make another teams 53 if cut. In reality, only a handful ever move teams.

 

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3 minutes ago, mannc said:

I love when people on this site say there is zero chance something will happen, when in fact they have zero idea whether it will or not...

 

 

Well I'm going to double down and TELL YOU there is 0 chance of it happening this year. The guy doesn't have enough football experience to be able to play at the NFL level this year 

 

Its truly a common sense thing... It really is

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You cant teach his vision.  I know its second half of a preseason game, but at the same time no one else on the team is making those plays in similar situations.  You find a way to get him on the 53 and create a handful of plays to get him in space.

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5 minutes ago, unbillievable said:

 

So you're saying that WADE is not really an NFL player. He's just a water-boy or mascot, getting to hang out with the team and occasionally get on the field.

 

So the entire charade of practices, cutting the guy at the end of camp, making him wait to see if he gets signed to the practice squad is way to acclimate the guy to what it would feel like if any of it was real?

 

Seems harsh.

 

 

 

I am saying he is a developmental player that is part of the Bills and will be through the 2020 camp as part of the International Pathway Program. And that is that. 

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2 minutes ago, unbillievable said:

 

I think we over-inflate the importance of our trash players. Every team thinks they have someone that will make another teams 53 if cut. In reality, only a handful ever move teams.

 

 

I don’t think Wade or VoJo are trash, but Wade needs a year to learn the position.  No team outside us have any clue what he knows or doesn’t know in terms of the NFL RB nuances.  

 

VoJo could get picked up by a LB needy team, but he needs A LOT of coaching.   Not exactly a 53 guy yet, IMO.   A guy that if taking the Corey Thompson route on our PS, could be legit down the line.  

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7 minutes ago, Doc said:

There is still nothing that says another team can't sign him to their roster if the Bills cut him on cutdown day.  It appears that the assumption is that if the Bills don't sign him to their roster, no other team would want him and thus he would go to the PS.

 

It is part of the program. It is just how it works. He was ALLOCATED to the Bills. He will be on the Bills through 2019. Either in the 53 (which then takes his Allocation protections away if cut after) or as part of their extra slot on the PS 

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At the conclusion of training camp, players will be eligible for an international player practice squad exemption. The exemption gives teams space for an eleventh practice squad member, though the player is ineligible to be activated during the season.  

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