Can Christian Wade be the 53 man roster this year

[FLBillsGuy]

Don’t understand the rule, is he automatically assigned to the practice squad, or can he be assigned to the 53 man roster?

[Mrbojanglezs]

He can makethe 53. But I think if he is assigned to the PS he's stuck there all year (can't be elevated) 

[buffaloboyinATL]

What I am curious about is if we can add him to the practice squad automatically or if he has to clear waivers first like other players.  

[Hatszel]

I think he would fall short being the 53 man roster he would have a hell of a time on defense.  Salary cap would be excellent however!

 

[Rc2catch]

29 minutes ago, Mrbojanglezs said:

He can makethe 53. But I think if he is assigned to the PS he's stuck there all year (can't be elevated) 

Correct he cannot be moved from the practice squad once put on it by us and other teams cannot take him either 

[ColoradoBills]

36 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said:

What I am curious about is if we can add him to the practice squad automatically or if he has to clear waivers first like other players.  

 

I looked for some time for the answer and could not find one.

To me it sounded like if one of these players don't make the 53 they can be "placed" on the PS, so I took it as automatically.

Others though have said they think they go thru waivers.

[Buffalo716]

Per my understanding of the international allocation program he is unable to make the 53 this season

 

Because all 8 international players tried out originally as free agents and were not signed

 

Then the international allocation program randomly divided the players to random divisions. The AFC east being one

 

Since Wade was allocated to the Bills he gets a free ride on the PS all year but is not eligible for the active squad

 

( Edit: he is able to make the team out of camp)  PS means cannot be called up

 

Edited August 17, 2019 by Buffalo716

[EmotionallyUnstable]

21 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Per my understanding of the international allocation program he is unable to make the 53 this season

 

Because all 8 international players tried out originally as free agents and were not signed

 

Then the international allocation program randomly divided the players to random divisions. The AFC east being one

 

Since Wade was allocated to the Bills he gets a free ride on the PS all year but is not eligible for the active squad

 

 

 

According to this article, you are correct. 

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001025740/article/four-international-players-added-to-rosters-ahead-of-2019-season%3fnetworkId=4595&site=.news&zone=story&zoneUrl=url%3Dstory&zoneKeys=s1%3Dstory&env&pageKeyValues=team%3Dmia%3bteam%3Dcin%3bteam%3Datl%3bteam%3Dcar%3bteam%3Dbuf%3bteam%3Dbal%3bteam%3Ddal%3bteam%3Dphi%3bteam%3Dclv%3bteam%3Dpit%3bteam%3Dmin%3bconf%3Dafc%3bconf%3Dnfc%3bdvsn%3Dace%3bdvsn%3Dacn%3bdvsn%3Dncs%3bdvsn%3Dnce%3bdvsn%3Dncn%3bplyr%3Defe_obada&sr=amp

 

He is unable to make the 53, or be promoted from his "11th" practice squad spot to join the roster in 2019

[whatdrought]

2 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

 

According to this article, you are correct. 

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001025740/article/four-international-players-added-to-rosters-ahead-of-2019-season%3fnetworkId=4595&site=.news&zone=story&zoneUrl=url%3Dstory&zoneKeys=s1%3Dstory&env&pageKeyValues=team%3Dmia%3bteam%3Dcin%3bteam%3Datl%3bteam%3Dcar%3bteam%3Dbuf%3bteam%3Dbal%3bteam%3Ddal%3bteam%3Dphi%3bteam%3Dclv%3bteam%3Dpit%3bteam%3Dmin%3bconf%3Dafc%3bconf%3Dnfc%3bdvsn%3Dace%3bdvsn%3Dacn%3bdvsn%3Dncs%3bdvsn%3Dnce%3bdvsn%3Dncn%3bplyr%3Defe_obada&sr=amp

 

He is unable to make the 53, or be promoted from his "11th" practice squad spot to join the roster in 2019

 

How is that helpful? What if we have an injury and he’s the best option? 

 

Seems like good intentions, but questionable practice.

[Ennjay]

31 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Per my understanding of the international allocation program he is unable to make the 53 this season

 

Because all 8 international players tried out originally as free agents and were not signed

 

Then the international allocation program randomly divided the players to random divisions. The AFC east being one

 

Since Wade was allocated to the Bills he gets a free ride on the PS all year but is not eligible for the active squad

 

 

 

It sounds like the international allocation program is a paid internship.  But if a player can't be promoted to the active roster, what's the point?  To see if he develops enough to make the 53 next year?

[Buffalo716]

3 minutes ago, Ennjay said:

 

It sounds like the international allocation program is a paid internship.  But if a player can't be promoted to the active roster, what's the point?  To see if he develops enough to make the 53 next year?

Exactly. None of the 8 players have played football at even a D1 level

 

This is to acclimate top athletes to the game over a year period and see how they progress

 

He is certainly a great candidate for PS RB with his speed and quickness and vision

[Patrick Duffy]

It would be cool if his very 1st carry in the next preseason game he takes it to the house again.

[MAJBobby]

1 hour ago, FLBillsGuy said:

Don’t understand the rule, is he automatically assigned to the practice squad, or can he be assigned to the 53 man roster?

 

He can make the team or goes to PS as a PS exemption meaning can carry one extra on PS. 

[Rocket94]

It is a great program to get them acclimated to the NFL, but what if Wade explodes the remainder of the pre season and we have this incredible weapon that has to wait instead of helping the team. One thing we are getting good at is patience.

[Warcodered]

10 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

 

He can make the team or goes to PS as a PS exemption meaning can carry one extra on PS. 

Can he go to the practice squad without the exemption so it's possible to promote him?

[MJS]

He can't BE the 53 man roster. But he sure can MAKE the 53 man roster.

 

That's what they've been saying on the radio at least.

Edited August 10, 2019 by MJS

[Chandler#81]

27 minutes ago, Ennjay said:

 

It sounds like the international allocation program is a paid internship.  But if a player can't be promoted to the active roster, what's the point?  To see if he develops enough to make the 53 next year?

Since we’re all speculating, I think the thinking behind this is these guys don’t know the game well enough -if at all. Great athletic ability, even with an individual position like RB, isn’t enough. You have to know to leave the field after you score, for instance. ‘Y Z Banana Trips’? Fuggetaboutit. They don’t want to be embarrassed and neither does the League.

[MAJBobby]

1 minute ago, Warcodered said:

Can he go to the practice squad without the exemption so it's possible to promote him?

I don’t think so. He has to make the 53 out of camp or he learns and develops on the PS all year. And that is fine he needs it. 

[Doc]

15 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

He can make the team or goes to PS as a PS exemption meaning can carry one extra on PS. 

 

It doesn't make sense that he can't make the active roster.  The idea is for these guys to make the roster.  If they show enough to make it their first year, why not let them?

[Rocket94]

On 8/10/2019 at 5:25 PM, MAJBobby said:

I don’t think so. He has to make the 53 out of camp or he learns and develops on the PS all year. And that is fine he needs it. 

I suppose you are right. Get Wade grounded for the transition. He is still a young man, but if he continues to play like this, the Bills may have to revise the plan...flip the script!

Edited August 17, 2019 by Rocket94

[MAJBobby]

4 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

It doesn't make sense that he can't make the active roster.  The idea is for these guys to make the roster.  If they show enough to make it their first year, why not let them?

 

Its the Program. 

[bargepole]

i must admit, I have no idea about the intricacies of how NFL teams select their 53-man active roster, or under what circumstances PS players can be promoted to the active squad.

 

But I can tell you this. When he was playing Rugby for us at Wasps, and we needed a score, there was only one call from the playbook - "Give it to Christian'.

 

As I said on another thread, you Bills fans ain't seen nothing yet, this guy will do things that most others can't do. Sure he has a lot to learn about your game, but in simple terms. when he has the ball in his hand, with defenders to beat and the goal line in sight, he will get there more often than not, regardless of which set of rules he's playing under.

[Buffalo716]

1 minute ago, bargepole said:

i must admit, I have no idea about the intricacies of how NFL teams select their 53-man active roster, or under what circumstances PS players can be promoted to the active squad.

 

But I can tell you this. When he was playing Rugby for us at Wasps, and we needed a score, there was only one call from the playbook - "Give it to Christian'.

 

As I said on another thread, you Bills fans ain't seen nothing yet, this guy will do things that most others can't do. Sure he has a lot to learn about your game, but in simple terms. when he has the ball in his hand, with defenders to beat and the goal line in sight, he will get there more often than not, regardless of which set of rules he's playing under.

If you are new here and do not follow American football but are here for Wade, welcome

 

His world class athletic ability was clearly on display, hopefully he can pick up the nuances and adapt

[bargepole]

11 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

If you are new here and do not follow American football but are here for Wade, welcome

 

His world class athletic ability was clearly on display, hopefully he can pick up the nuances and adapt

 

Thanks for the welcome. I do often watch NFL games, which are shown on Sky Sports here in the UK, usually late on Sunday nights due to the time zone difference.

 

One thing I can never quite understand, is when it gets to the last two minutes of the fourth quarter, and the team which is leading have the ball, they can eat up the clock by 'taking a knee for three downs. That seems to me to be deliberate time-wasting, and they should change the rules to penalise that.

[Buffalo716]

Just now, bargepole said:

 

Thanks for the welcome. I do often watch NFL games, which are shown on Sky Sports here in the UK, usually late on Sunday nights due to the time zone difference.

 

One thing I can never quite understand, is when it gets to the last two minutes of the fourth quarter, and the team which is leading have the ball, they can eat up the clock by 'taking a knee for three downs. That seems to me to be deliberate time-wasting, and they should change the rules to penalise that.

 

That is why keeping your timeouts for the 4th quarter are crucial. If you are down 3 points with 2 minutes left and the winning team wants to kneel out the clock it won't be effective because you have your timeouts

 

Football is as much strategy as it is brute Force

[Dadonkadonk]

No

[BUFFALOKIE]

I tried to pick this young man for my final pick in my fantasy football auction league today. He was nowhere to be found on anyone's computers. They ***** me for the same reason when I picked Marcus Murphy in round 16 last year and I wound up with a second kicker. This year, McCoy was still available so I took him instead.

Edited August 11, 2019 by BUFFALOKIE

[Gugny]

"The four AFC East clubs will carry these overseas players on their roster until the end of training camp. At that time, the players are eligible for an international player practice squad exemption, granting them an eleventh practice squad member that is ineligible to be activated during the 2019 season."

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001025740/article/four-international-players-added-to-rosters-ahead-of-2019-season

 

He'll be an additional PS player and nothing more for 2019.

[Augie]

1 hour ago, Gugny said:

"The four AFC East clubs will carry these overseas players on their roster until the end of training camp. At that time, the players are eligible for an international player practice squad exemption, granting them an eleventh practice squad member that is ineligible to be activated during the 2019 season."

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001025740/article/four-international-players-added-to-rosters-ahead-of-2019-season

 

 He'll be an additional PS player and nothing more for 2019.

 

He’ll be the league MVP and nothing less for 2019. 

 

Have faith! 

 

It sure is a fun story and I can’t wait to see some more of this guy. It’s not just the one big play, but also from the rugby highlights I really want to know just how fast this guy really is. He’s “eligible” for the practice squad as an additional player (but the last spot means he can’t move onto the roster this year), but he just might make a roster. I’d like to see him on returns. My irrational exuberance runneth over.  

 

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Edited August 11, 2019 by Augie

[Gugny]

6 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

He’ll be the league MVP and nothing less for 2019. 

 

Have faith! 

 

It sure is a fun story and I can’t wait to see some more of this guy. It’s not just the one big play, but also from the rugby highlights I really want to know just how fast this guy really is. He’s “eligible” for the practice squad, but he just might make a roster. I’d like to see him on returns. My irrational exuberance runneth over.  

 

I wish this could happen.  But he cannot make the roster, no matter how good he is.  Even if the Bills wanted him to, the rules prevent him from going any further than the practice squad for 2019.

[mannc]

4 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

Exactly. None of the 8 players have played football at even a D1 level

 

This is to acclimate top athletes to the game over a year period and see how they progress

 

He is certainly a great candidate for PS RB with his speed and quickness and vision

But what’s the harm of making him eligible for the 53?  If he’s good enough, he should be on the squad.

[MJS]

4 hours ago, Rocket94 said:

I suppose you are right. Get Wade grounded for the transition. He is still a young man.

He's 28. That's old for running backs.

[Augie]

4 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

I wish this could happen.  But he cannot make the roster, no matter how good he is.  Even if the Bills wanted him to, the rules prevent him from going any further than the practice squad for 2019.

 

Are you positive? What I read says they are “eligible” for an 11th PS position. I did NOT see where it says they CANNOT make the 53 man squad. You get an overseas punter from Australia, and HE can make the squad. I don’t know what the specifics are here, still vague to me. 

[MJS]

7 minutes ago, Gugny said:

I wish this could happen.  But he cannot make the roster, no matter how good he is.  Even if the Bills wanted him to, the rules prevent him from going any further than the practice squad for 2019.

What you quoted only stated that if they are placed on the practice squad they can't be activated. It didn't say they couldn't make the 53 man roster.

1 hour ago, BUFFALOKIE said:

I tried to pick this young man for my final pick in my fantasy football auction league today. He was nowhere to be found on anyone's computers. They ***** me for the same reason when I picked Marcus Murphy in round 16 last year and I wound up with a second kicker. This year, McCoy was still available so I took him instead.

Sounds like you were saved from your own stupidity ?

[Augie]

4 minutes ago, MJS said:

He's 28. That's old for running backs.

 

Adjust like dog years. He’s played rugby, which is wearing, but he hasn’t been playing football since he was 6 years old. 

 

 

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Edited August 11, 2019 by Augie

[Rocket94]

1 minute ago, MJS said:

He's 28. That's old for running backs.

It may seem that way. However, we all know that men age differently and Wade's legs have not been subjected to a prolonged NFL pounding. I don't know much about rugby...is it as gruelling on the body as NFL football?

[Big Blitz]

4 minutes ago, MJS said:

He's 28. That's old for running backs.

 

True....but Freddy played 3 years in Europe and then joined the Bills when he was 26/27 years old.  If that means anything I don't know.  

[MJS]

Just now, Augie said:

Adjust for dog years. He’s played rugby, which is wearing, but he hasn’t been playing football since he was 6 years old. 

Doesn't really matter. Teams generally don't even consider bringing in guys if they are 30 or over, unless you are a future hall of famer like Gore.

 

There are just too many promising, early 20's running backs out there for peanuts to waste your time with older, more expensive, less springy running backs.

 

Of course, Wade can probably be had for pretty cheap. But I bet, even as a rugby player, he isn't as fast as he was when he was 23.

1 minute ago, Rocket94 said:

It may seem that way. However, we all know that men age differently and Wade's legs have not been subjected to a prolonged NFL pounding. I don't know much about rugby...is it as gruelling on the body as NFL football?

Football has more injuries, I know, but I'm sure his time playing accounted for some wear and tear.

[Rocket94]

1 minute ago, MJS said:

Doesn't really matter. Teams generally don't even consider bringing in guys if they are 30 or over, unless you are a future hall of famer like Gore.

 

There are just too many promising, early 20's running backs out there for peanuts to waste your time with older, more expensive, less springy running backs.

 

Of course, Wade can probably be had for pretty cheap. But I bet, even as a rugby player, he isn't as fast as he was when he was 23.

Football has more injuries, I know, but I'm sure his time playing accounted for some wear and tear.

Based on his run the other day, I would have to believe that he has a few good years left. The man invests in himself and appears to be in remarkable shape.

[Augie]

8 minutes ago, MJS said:

Doesn't really matter. Teams generally don't even consider bringing in guys if they are 30 or over, unless you are a future hall of famer like Gore.

 

There are just too many promising, early 20's running backs out there for peanuts to waste your time with older, more expensive, less springy running backs.

 

Of course, Wade can probably be had for pretty cheap. But I bet, even as a rugby player, he isn't as fast as he was when he was 23.

Football has more injuries, I know, but I'm sure his time playing accounted for some wear and tear.

 

I didn’t bother looking it up, but I thought he was 28, which with wear and tear adjustments might feel like 26. I’m not advocating for a guy I saw make one long run, just saying it was entertaining and I’d like to see more. Of course it’s a serious loooong shot. I just want to see a little more. Is that so wrong? 

 

EDIT: he just turned 28 in May. 

Edited August 11, 2019 by Augie