Can Christian Wade be the 53 man roster this year

[Rocket94]

13 minutes ago, bargepole said:

 

You guys are nuts. He has played, what, 10 minutes in 2 NFL games? In Rugby, he is used to playing a full 80 minutes taking part in offensive and defensive plays. He will be at least as fit as any NFL player.

 

A few years back, we had an American boy, ex-College Footballer, who came along to try out for my local Rugby club. For 2 minutes, he was the best player on the field, bursting through tackles and making a lot of metres (yes we have to make metres, not yards, so it's even tougher). But after that, he was looking to the sidelines for the oxygen mask - sorry pal,  there isn't one, you just keep going.

 

If they keep him as an RB, I can see some special plays being devised involving him and Josh Allen - one of them making the initial run, then offloading the ball to the other to finish it off (what you Americans quaintly call a 'lateral'). That will have the other teams' defence coaches scratching their heads.

He can pitch it back to Allen! Josh knows what to do!

[ddaryl]

42 minutes ago, mannc said:

He’ll be 29 years old next year...it’s now or never.

 

Well if its a now or never then never. Way to big of a  gamble. We have more talented players at needed depth positions to take up a spot on a big time project

 

 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

36 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said:

True. But they use the metric system. So he’s 27 in our years. 

 

 

...what is it is Kelly the Dog years though?..........

[ddaryl]

38 minutes ago, Rocket94 said:

I am just trying to be optimistic. Let us see how he does first against better competition. I do support the PS option if it comes down to that. If Wade proves to make the Bills a better team then he has to be considered, even if seems to be some "alternative" approach. Wade is demonstrating good recognition and instinctual skills as well.

 

Nothing wrong with optimism. I too see Wade with some optimism. Just know we have plenty of positions that have more depth concerns then a project RB who has never played American football before

[Rocket94]

33 minutes ago, ddaryl said:

 

Nothing wrong with optimism. I too see Wade with some optimism. Just know we have plenty of positions that have more depth concerns then a project RB who has never played American football before

Oh I get it, and understand the other depth concerns.  I am just opening up a possibility. I just want this team to win again, and to be open to new ideas and perhaps think outside the box. 

Edited August 17, 2019 by Rocket94

[Dkollidas]

18 minutes ago, ddaryl said:

 

Well if its a now or never then never. Way to big of a  gamble. We have more talented players at needed depth positions to take up a spot on a big time project

 

 

Your 4th running back spot/special teamer isn’t something worth taking a gamble on?

 

I think in limited viewings Wade has shown that his speed and agility are at an elite level. That alone should give him a good shot at the 53. If he can do this over next two pre-season games, I would think they’d have to at least give him strong considerations for the 53-man roster.

[VW82]

The TD run vs. Colts was great but he wasn't touched and you could discount it some if that was all you'd seen. I don't think you can fake the catch and run vs. Panthers regardless of how badly they tackled. This guy is a gamer with experience competing against the best in the world in another sport and being a star while doing so. I like Murphy but I'd rather take a chance on a guy with star talent.

Edited August 17, 2019 by VW82

[Revealingstorm]

Some one on another forum said that Wade could still be picked up after being cut but before he was put on the practice squad

 

 

 

www.cincyjungle.com/platform/amp/2018/9/1/17808772/nfl-practice-squad-2018-eligibility-pay-rules-changing-teams-what-to-know

The NFL will assign the player

The team can note a few players of interest

If he makes the team after camp, he would count against the 53-man roster

**The player getting cut after camp would still go through waivers as usual**

 

[Buffalo716]

51 minutes ago, bargepole said:

 

You guys are nuts. He has played, what, 10 minutes in 2 NFL games? In Rugby, he is used to playing a full 80 minutes taking part in offensive and defensive plays. He will be at least as fit as any NFL player.

 

A few years back, we had an American boy, ex-College Footballer, who came along to try out for my local Rugby club. For 2 minutes, he was the best player on the field, bursting through tackles and making a lot of metres (yes we have to make metres, not yards, so it's even tougher). But after that, he was looking to the sidelines for the oxygen mask - sorry pal,  there isn't one, you just keep going.

 

If they keep him as an RB, I can see some special plays being devised involving him and Josh Allen - one of them making the initial run, then offloading the ball to the other to finish it off (what you Americans quaintly call a 'lateral'). That will have the other teams' defence coaches scratching their heads.

That would work in college football but they don't run options with laterals in the NFL for a reason

 

It will get your QB killed

[Revealingstorm]

1 hour ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said:

100% correct.

I thought that at first too now I'm not so sure. 

[Rochesterfan]

1 hour ago, Rocket94 said:

Perhaps I am being progressive, but if there is a player performing like Wade, you find somewhere for him on this roster now.

 

 

Nope because he still does not understand the nuances of the position.  People love the runs, but if he can’t  pick up a blitz - he gets your starting QB killed.  If he is not familiar with the correct swing route - he gets your QB killed.  He is still learning how to take a handoff.  

 

I love what he is doing, but he needs time to learn.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

1 hour ago, mannc said:

finish that sentence...

When he came to Buffalo 

[starrymessenger]

We don't really know just how much juice this kid has got. Obviously the coaches have a better idea. He certainly is a tease though. If the game breaking traits he has flashed are completely legit the Bills might have a decision to make regarding this year's roster. Those types of players are few, far between and valuable. If he's truly the next Human Joystick it might be hard to pass on him. If he can run back punts and kickoffs, albeit in a backup role, I could see him edging out Perry, though of course that wouldn't guarantee him a spot either. There is no way IMO that he bumps a legit veteran RB like Yeldon however. 

My guess is that the option to stash him as a protected PS player will be just too attractive and easy for the Bills. It's too bad that he can't be promoted in season. Not sure I see the reason for that rule.

[MAJBobby]

6 minutes ago, starrymessenger said:

We don't really know just how much juice this kid has got. Obviously the coaches have a better idea. He certainly is a tease though. If the game breaking traits he has flashed are completely legit the Bills might have a decision to make regarding this year's roster. Those types of players are few, far between and valuable. If he's truly the next Human Joystick it might be hard to pass on him. If he can run back punts and kickoffs, albeit in a backup role, I could see him edging out Perry, though of course that wouldn't guarantee him a spot either. There is no way IMO that he bumps a legit veteran RB like Yeldon however. 

My guess is that the option to stash him as a protected PS player will be just too attractive and easy for the Bills. It's too bad that he can't be promoted in season. Not sure I see the reason for that rule.

 

I am guessing it is because of the Exemptions provided by the Allocated team for Both camp and the PS. 

[ColoradoBills]

10 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

 

I am guessing it is because of the Exemptions provided by the Allocated team for Both camp and the PS. 

 

The whole question is how are these players treated after cuts.

Do they go thru waivers or not.

That question is not completely defined in the rules we all have read.

 

It seems to me that someone like John Wawrow needs to ask that question to the Bills Front Office.

Maybe someone here can tweet him to see if he will ask.

 

Personally I read it as he doesn't go thru waivers but like I said it's not specified.

[MAJBobby]

7 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

The whole question is how are these players treated after cuts.

Do they go thru waivers or not.

That question is not completely defined in the rules we all have read.

 

It seems to me that someone like John Wawrow needs to ask that question to the Bills Front Office.

Maybe someone here can tweet him to see if he will ask.

 

Personally I read it as he doesn't go thru waivers but like I said it's not specified.

 

I have questions out. But seems like what some are saying by how their tweets worded he is not eligible to play in 2019 unless he makes Bills 53. Otherwise sits on PS this year. 

[3rdand12]

2 hours ago, Rocket94 said:

He can pitch it back to Allen! Josh knows what to do!

or vice versa eh ?

: )

[Rocket94]

Just now, 3rdand12 said:

or vice versa eh ?

: )

Why not!

[ddaryl]

23 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

The whole question is how are these players treated after cuts.

Do they go thru waivers or not.

That question is not completely defined in the rules we all have read.

 

It seems to me that someone like John Wawrow needs to ask that question to the Bills Front Office.

Maybe someone here can tweet him to see if he will ask.

 

Personally I read it as he doesn't go thru waivers but like I said it's not specified.

 

 

Here is what you need to know about the international practice squad spot:

• The NFL will assign the player
• The team can note a few players of interest
• If he makes the team after camp, he would count against the 53-man roster
• The player getting cut after camp would still go through waivers as usual
• If the team then chooses to re-sign him after clearing waivers he would officially become the 11th practice squad player

[3rdand12]

2 minutes ago, ddaryl said:

 

 

Here is what you need to know about the international practice squad spot:

• The NFL will assign the player
• The team can note a few players of interest
• If he makes the team after camp, he would count against the 53-man roster
• The player getting cut after camp would still go through waivers as usual
• If the team then chooses to re-sign him after clearing waivers he would officially become the 11th practice squad player

thanks for clarifying the matter : ) well done

[2020 Our Year For Sure]

59 minutes ago, ddaryl said:

 

 

Here is what you need to know about the international practice squad spot:

• The NFL will assign the player
• The team can note a few players of interest
• If he makes the team after camp, he would count against the 53-man roster
• The player getting cut after camp would still go through waivers as usual
• If the team then chooses to re-sign him after clearing waivers he would officially become the 11th practice squad player

Makes a great deal more sense this way than Buffalo having exclusive rights even if they cut him. Yes he was allocated to the Bills but if they choose to release him and another club wants him on the 53, he should be fair game through waivers in my opinion. I'd still love to see clear confirmation one way or another

[Mat68]

1 minute ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said:

Makes a great deal more sense this way than Buffalo having exclusive rights even if they cut him. Yes he was allocated to the Bills but if they choose to release him and another club wants him on the 53, he should be fair game through waivers in my opinion. I'd still love to see clear confirmation one way or another

Imo, based off his limited use they wanted to sneak him on P.S.  After those 2 plays on what 3 or 4 touches that is going to be highly unlikely.  Imo Wade has earned more reps and with the second team offense.  If he continues to make plays you find a spot.  I dont care what the perception of him is.  He has the 2 biggest plays of the preseason on limited touches.  Lets see if he continues to make plays vs better defenders.

[ddaryl]

8 minutes ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said:

Makes a great deal more sense this way than Buffalo having exclusive rights even if they cut him. Yes he was allocated to the Bills but if they choose to release him and another club wants him on the 53, he should be fair game through waivers in my opinion. I'd still love to see clear confirmation one way or another

 

its clear. He either makes the squad or gets cut and goes to waivers. If he gets cut a team can claim him off waivers and put him on their 53 man active roster.  However if he clears waivers the Bill's have the right to include him as the 11th practice squad player. As the 11th PS squad player he is not eligible for call up for the year

 

My question is if he makes the 53 but gets cut week 1 and clears waivers, and then he is added to the PS after being active is he eligible for call up during the season if needed ?

 

 

I will say this I hope he does get a game with 10 or so touches against 1st/2nd stringers because I think it will bring many of the fans here back to reality. 

Edited August 17, 2019 by ddaryl

[GreggTX]

I see a very bright future for this young man if not in 2019, then 2020. Singletary looks good too. Could we be a more balanced team? Who knows?

[jwhit34]

He is a terrific story so far, his two plays have made the preseason more palatable. But, like so many RBs in past preseasons, he has made 2 plays against defenders who are going to get cut.

 

the other reality is that with all the cuts coming at once, teams are looking to keep their own for practice squad or finding positions they need to shore up for backups. Vets with some experience are the ones who will be scooped up. 

 

Wade is still a big time project. Projects go on the practice squad and he will be on the Bills’ PS. Remember he is also 28 years old and while he doesn’t have football mileage on his legs he does have rugby miles. The only 28 year olds being picked up off waivers are ones who can contribute day one.

 

great story but too many people are way over their skis on this one which seems to happen almost every preseason with a RB. This one is more unique but same type of thing.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/another-week-another-great-play-104812429.html

 

Another week, another great play from Bills’ rugby star Christian Wade

 

 

When Christian Wade gave up his professional rugby career in his native England to sign with the Bills, few thought he had much of a chance of making it in the NFL. He’s doing his best to make his doubters look dumb.

After running for a 65-yard touchdown in his first preseason carry last week, Wade made another sensational play on Friday night.

 

cont.....

[Augie]

17 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/another-week-another-great-play-104812429.html

 

Another week, another great play from Bills’ rugby star Christian Wade

 

 

When Christian Wade gave up his professional rugby career in his native England to sign with the Bills, few thought he had much of a chance of making it in the NFL. He’s doing his best to make his doubters look dumb.

After running for a 65-yard touchdown in his first preseason carry last week, Wade made another sensational play on Friday night.

 

cont.....

 

Funny link: title and article all Wade, video all about Shady. Interesting comments there, though.  I thought they might talk about Wade  and maybe show a highlight? (One of the only two....) 

 

I’ll say it again, I have no idea if he can make the 53, or clear waivers for the PS, but I sure do want to see him get more touches. He’s exciting! 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

I don’t write them. 

I just CopyPaste 

? 

 

[MakeBuffaloGreatAgain]

He needs to learn how to catch a low thrown ball though... but he is still impressive

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

1 minute ago, MakeBuffaloGreatAgain said:

He needs to learn how to catch a low thrown ball though... but he is still impressive

That’s 80 % of the NFL 

[Mat68]

3 hours ago, jwhit34 said:

He is a terrific story so far, his two plays have made the preseason more palatable. But, like so many RBs in past preseasons, he has made 2 plays against defenders who are going to get cut.

 

the other reality is that with all the cuts coming at once, teams are looking to keep their own for practice squad or finding positions they need to shore up for backups. Vets with some experience are the ones who will be scooped up. 

 

Wade is still a big time project. Projects go on the practice squad and he will be on the Bills’ PS. Remember he is also 28 years old and while he doesn’t have football mileage on his legs he does have rugby miles. The only 28 year olds being picked up off waivers are ones who can contribute day one.

 

great story but too many people are way over their skis on this one which seems to happen almost every preseason with a RB. This one is more unique but same type of thing.

If it's so easy, why dont the other backs on the roster and around the league make similar plays?  There is something to him.  He isnt a major project in my eyes,  he is a guy you put in space and let him run to open grass.  I'm not asking him to pick up a blitz on third down, I'm throwing him a designed swing pass with a lead blocker, jet sweeps, or screens.

[LOVEMESOMEBILLS]

6 hours ago, ddaryl said:

 

 

Here is what you need to know about the international practice squad spot:

• The NFL will assign the player
• The team can note a few players of interest
• If he makes the team after camp, he would count against the 53-man roster
• The player getting cut after camp would still go through waivers as usual
• If the team then chooses to re-sign him after clearing waivers he would officially become the 11th practice squad player

Don't know if this is correct, But I'll put it here.

 

 

Edited August 18, 2019 by LOVEMESOMEBILLS

[MAGA-Man]

5 hours ago, GreggTX said:

I see a very bright future for this young man if not in 2019, then 2020. Singletary looks good too. Could we be a more balanced team? Who knows?

But he's not young, he's 28 years old...

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

25 minutes ago, MAGA-Man said:

But he's not young, he's 28 years old...

 

So he’s 28.  

 

As I have said multiple times 

Fred Jackson came to Buffalo at the same age.  

 

Players can and have been productive.   Ergo there shouldn’t be an issue. 

[Patrick Duffy]

31 minutes ago, MAGA-Man said:

But he's not young, he's 28 years old...

 

Lol, 28 is definitely NOT old. I consider that still young and in prime.

[MAGA-Man]

4 minutes ago, Patrick_Duffy said:

 

Lol, 28 is definitely NOT old. I consider that still young and in prime.

 

He's had a full rugby career, all the associated wear and tear etc. 28 isn't old, but for an NFL RB it is.  Yes, there are exceptions, but I'd rather just keep drafting early 20 year old's and recycling them every 3 -4 years never having to pay them big money. 

 

Wade is a cool story, but I doubt he makes the 53, they already have too many RB's.

[Warcodered]

1 hour ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said:

Don't know if this is correct, But I'll put it here.

 

 

So he can't be taken off of waivers but at the end of the season he becomes an unrestricted free agent that last part kinda sucks.

[LOVEMESOMEBILLS]

3 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

So he can't be taken off of waivers but at the end of the season he becomes an unrestricted free agent that last part kinda sucks.

If everything is going well with him and the Bills, they could already have a deal in place before he even becomes a free agent. I have a feeling he would give them first crack. The old stigma of no one wants to play for the Bills is finally dying, once they get here players tend to love the team, the fans & the city.

 

[ColoradoBills]

8 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

So he can't be taken off of waivers but at the end of the season he becomes an unrestricted free agent that last part kinda sucks.

 

IF and it's a big IF, the Bills and another team wanted to sign him it will be to an entry 500k type contract.

Being he has been with the Bills I would think he would sign with Buffalo.

[Mrbojanglezs]

7 hours ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

The whole question is how are these players treated after cuts.

Do they go thru waivers or not.

That question is not completely defined in the rules we all have read.

 

It seems to me that someone like John Wawrow needs to ask that question to the Bills Front Office.

Maybe someone here can tweet him to see if he will ask.

 

Personally I read it as he doesn't go thru waivers but like I said it's not specified.

I tweeted Sal C earlier today no response yet