HardyBoy Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 An inside run game with Singletary, two tight ends and a fullback is crazy exciting. If you have a back who can set up runs in space, with two unaccounted for blockers, you're taking potentialy 20 yards in chunks. Also, I've said it before, I'm big on Wade. I think he has the same set up ability as Singletary just with different angles, though tap the breaks a moment, having to only beat one guy on a very hard to defend angle, and a full field open after isn't really fair. Might be hard to sneak him on the practice squad, especially if he showing film he's quickly picking up the angles through the rest of preseason. Kroft, Knox and Sweeney, blocking and catching as an onfield unit, and hopefully Croom makes the team on special teams, because he was a solid target last year and has been developing as a TE, is exciting. You could totally put the four of those guys with any of the backs and this gets exciting. Holy crap, we have Shady. I think a more nuanced style would do better, because the three backfield blockers would have the time to reach the key blocks, but it's easy to forget Shady McCoy somehow! Of course we'll have to see how the the oline prefers to play, that will drive a lot. Very excited to see the run plays this year, if Ford is RG and good, it's the best oline the bills have had in a while. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Let's just hope we have 2 tight ends healthy at any given time. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seoulful Soul Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 I can see Singletary being the speed back and Wade being a power back with speed. Add a fullback and I'm with you 100% percent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Seoulful Soul said: I can see Singletary being the speed back and Wade being a power back with speed. Add a fullback and I'm with you 100% percent. Singletary looked like Shady-lite once he got going. Little worried at first - first couple of carries he looked like he got caught up in the wash too quickly and went down right away. Then he started bouncing off everybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seoulful Soul Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 2 hours ago, JoPar_v2 said: Singletary looked like Shady-lite once he got going. Little worried at first - first couple of carries he looked like he got caught up in the wash too quickly and went down right away. Then he started bouncing off everybody. I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 48 minutes ago, Seoulful Soul said: I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed it. 2 hours ago, JoPar_v2 said: Singletary looked like Shady-lite once he got going. Little worried at first - first couple of carries he looked like he got caught up in the wash too quickly and went down right away. Then he started bouncing off everybody. He's not very fast but has excellent vision and catches the ball better than expected. Some guys just know how to avoid hits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 3 hours ago, JoPar_v2 said: Let's just hope we have 2 tight ends healthy at any given time. and our starting C 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Singletary showed lots of patience, vision, that he could break tackles, slipperiness and that he could catch the rock. By the end of season, he will be getting the most touches out of all the RB's. Wade has an uphill battle. Love his explosiveness but I'd be surprised if he made the final roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 3 hours ago, Seoulful Soul said: I can see Singletary being the speed back and Wade being a power back with speed. Add a fullback and I'm with you 100% percent. Did we forget two gentlemen McCoy and Gore ? 1 hour ago, billsbackto81 said: He's not very fast but has excellent vision and catches the ball better than expected. Some guys just know how to avoid hits. This will be a problem. NFL is all about speed. The LBs will close in on him very quickly. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 4 hours ago, Seoulful Soul said: I can see Singletary being the speed back and Wade being a power back with speed. Add a fullback and I'm with you 100% percent. I doubt Wade makes the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, ganesh said: Did we forget two gentlemen McCoy and Gore ? This will be a problem. NFL is all about speed. The LBs will close in on him very quickly. He may not get the edge to the sideline on a sweep or pitch but he is fast enough to be a player. His game is all about being slippery between the tackles and using his vision and elusiveness to get chunks and move the chains. He's not a home run hitter. 3 minutes ago, Boca BIlls said: I doubt Wade makes the team. You're probably right. Would like to see him get more carries against the opposing teams second string. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 11 hours ago, JoPar_v2 said: Let's just hope we have 2 tight ends healthy at any given time. They haven’t bothered using one TE out there for almost 25 seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 11 hours ago, Seoulful Soul said: I can see Singletary being the speed back and Wade being a power back with speed. Add a fullback and I'm with you 100% percent. Singletary the speed back? 7 hours ago, Boca BIlls said: I doubt Wade makes the team. PS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 I think this season will be the Shady/Gore farewell tour, at least in Buffalo. Next season, I believe we see Devin Singletary as the lead back. As far as his backups? More draftees, free agents, or perhaps a Christian Wade who has had a season to marinate on the practice squad. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Logic said: I think this season will be the Shady/Gore farewell tour, at least in Buffalo. Next season, I believe we see Devin Singletary as the lead back. As far as his backups? More draftees, free agents, or perhaps a Christian Wade who has had a season to marinate on the practice squad. Wade is a free PS member and he's going there. Clearly they were excited to get him "a few touches" the first of which was a monster run, after he almost fumbled. He's nowhere near ready, not even close. My suspicion is you will see Shady and Singletary basically alternate and Gore will be the thumper/change of pace guy. I don't see Yeldon making the team, unless they are going to do it purely based on next year's roster. I just don't see it. I think they had little intention of drafting a back this year and it happened to fall the best guy on their board was Singletary. I can't say yet if I see what they see in him, I don't see the burst to be a good starter in the NFL, but he could prove me wrong. Either way, no ST play from Yeldon and the fact hes not all that special anyway, leads me to think he's going to get caught in the numbers, barring an injury or trade of course. I could see them pulling a late round pick out of him or Gore for that matter. The other guys are effective and valueable elsewhere, its unlikely you are going to get much out of a 4th RB when you have 2 HOF players and a highly regarded rookie in front of them, so they better play ST. Next year Wade has to stick or he's done, 29 yrs old and don't have the skill set down? You are done. He looks like he could be a helluva return guy, so maybe he has some value there too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 I hope we keep Shady and Gore on the roster. RBs always get banged up during the season. It wasn't that long ago that we went from having a packed RB corps of Spiller and Jackson and someone else I can't remember to calling guys up from the practice squad early in the season due to injuries at RB. Shady, Gore, and Singletary would be a nice top 3, with a 4th back kept up for depth. I don't see or get the desire to trade McCoy, no matter how good Singletary looks. He can look amazing and then tweak a hammy in week 3 and then it's all on Gore and whoever if Shady is gone. If Shady is here then we would have 2 very capable backs still. When you're probably only going to get a 4th rounder or less for McCoy I say keep him. He's more valuable than that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Well, I think our run game is going to be very important going forward. Singletary is a huge piece to this offense, we didn’t bring in a bunch of road graders for nothing. I think Allen will not be able to carry our offense on his arm alone, so I think we are going to be a run first team until Allen comes into his own and simmers down a little bit. Maybe towards the end of the year we evolve more into a pass happy offense as Allen matures, but for now I think a strong running game will be Allen’s best friend. Pound the ball, play good defense and bring Allen along nice and slow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 On 8/9/2019 at 1:43 AM, billsbackto81 said: He's not very fast but has excellent vision and catches the ball better than expected. Some guys just know how to avoid hits. I don't require the CJ Spiller speed guy anymore. Or even the Shady "juke" the defender style. I like Devin's straight ahead plan. He may not get the 50 yard HR play often, but I think he'll be that 4-5 yard grinder who can make guys miss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW82 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 I wasn't a fan of Singletary in this game. His run on 2nd and 5 in that second series was bad. Line got a nice push with so much open field out to the right. Prime Shady would have turned that into a 20 yard run. Singletary instead hesitates and then runs straight ahead into their DE. One rushing attempt doesn't make a career but that one left an impression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, VW82 said: I wasn't a fan of Singletary in this game. His run on 2nd and 5 in that second series was bad. Line got a nice push with so much open field out to the right. Prime Shady would have turned that into a 20 yard run. Singletary instead hesitates and then runs straight ahead into their DE. One rushing attempt doesn't make a career but that one left an impression. What about all the other good plays? Did those leave an impression? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: What about all the other good plays? Did those leave an impression? LOL ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 10 minutes ago, VW82 said: I wasn't a fan of Singletary in this game. His run on 2nd and 5 in that second series was bad. Line got a nice push with so much open field out to the right. Prime Shady would have turned that into a 20 yard run. Singletary instead hesitates and then runs straight ahead into their DE. One rushing attempt doesn't make a career but that one left an impression. Is that the play where the DE grabbed his leg as Singletary was trying to turn the corner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW82 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: Is that the play where the DE grabbed his leg as Singletary was trying to turn the corner? No. it happened at 7:50 in the first quarter. Edited August 10, 2019 by VW82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 1 minute ago, VW82 said: No. it happened at 7:50 in the 2nd. Like a dummy I didn't record it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 (edited) On 8/9/2019 at 1:21 PM, row_33 said: They haven’t bothered using one TE out there for almost 25 seasons. “They” being the owners GM, and coaches haven’t been here for twenty five seasons, you gotta narrow it down a bit if you want to be taken seriously, oh I forgot you’re one of those Uber up beat posters...? Go Bills!!! Edited August 10, 2019 by Don Otreply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 On 8/8/2019 at 10:31 PM, HardyBoy said: An inside run game with Singletary, two tight ends and a fullback is crazy exciting. If you have a back who can set up runs in space, with two unaccounted for blockers, you're taking potentialy 20 yards in chunks. Also, I've said it before, I'm big on Wade. I think he has the same set up ability as Singletary just with different angles, though tap the breaks a moment, having to only beat one guy on a very hard to defend angle, and a full field open after isn't really fair. Might be hard to sneak him on the practice squad, especially if he showing film he's quickly picking up the angles through the rest of preseason. Kroft, Knox and Sweeney, blocking and catching as an onfield unit, and hopefully Croom makes the team on special teams, because he was a solid target last year and has been developing as a TE, is exciting. You could totally put the four of those guys with any of the backs and this gets exciting. Holy crap, we have Shady. I think a more nuanced style would do better, because the three backfield blockers would have the time to reach the key blocks, but it's easy to forget Shady McCoy somehow! Of course we'll have to see how the the oline prefers to play, that will drive a lot. Very excited to see the run plays this year, if Ford is RG and good, it's the best oline the bills have had in a while. Can't really sneak anyone on the PS, teams have to notify the league of these transactions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 On 8/9/2019 at 1:43 AM, Seoulful Soul said: I can see Singletary being the speed back and Wade being a power back with speed. Add a fullback and I'm with you 100% percent. On 8/9/2019 at 1:31 AM, HardyBoy said: An inside run game with Singletary, two tight ends and a fullback is crazy exciting. If you have a back who can set up runs in space, with two unaccounted for blockers, you're taking potentialy 20 yards in chunks. Also, I've said it before, I'm big on Wade. I think he has the same set up ability as Singletary just with different angles, though tap the breaks a moment, having to only beat one guy on a very hard to defend angle, and a full field open after isn't really fair. Might be hard to sneak him on the practice squad, especially if he showing film he's quickly picking up the angles through the rest of preseason. Kroft, Knox and Sweeney, blocking and catching as an onfield unit, and hopefully Croom makes the team on special teams, because he was a solid target last year and has been developing as a TE, is exciting. You could totally put the four of those guys with any of the backs and this gets exciting. Holy crap, we have Shady. I think a more nuanced style would do better, because the three backfield blockers would have the time to reach the key blocks, but it's easy to forget Shady McCoy somehow! Of course we'll have to see how the the oline prefers to play, that will drive a lot. Very excited to see the run plays this year, if Ford is RG and good, it's the best oline the bills have had in a while. I wish I had a million dollars, because if I did, I'd bet you all that next year's top two RBs are not Singletary and Wade. I'll give you that Singletary could COMPETE for top RB duties next year. He will in no way be given an uncontested path to the job. You're likely looking at them bringing in (given no more shady or Gore) one or two quality backs, either through free agency or the draft. It has been one preseason game of the guys first season as a pro. I'm not ready to hand him the future of the backfield. Wade is a great story, but like I mentioned above, he is in for a long, uphill battle. He's going to been to make a splash via the PS this year. Regardless of what he does, he isn't going to enter camp next year as a top option. 22 hours ago, TheFunPolice said: I hope we keep Shady and Gore on the roster. RBs always get banged up during the season. It wasn't that long ago that we went from having a packed RB corps of Spiller and Jackson and someone else I can't remember to calling guys up from the practice squad early in the season due to injuries at RB. Shady, Gore, and Singletary would be a nice top 3, with a 4th back kept up for depth. I don't see or get the desire to trade McCoy, no matter how good Singletary looks. He can look amazing and then tweak a hammy in week 3 and then it's all on Gore and whoever if Shady is gone. If Shady is here then we would have 2 very capable backs still. When you're probably only going to get a 4th rounder or less for McCoy I say keep him. He's more valuable than that. Given Shady's injury history, and for all the reasons you mentioned, I think they'd be insane to not carry both of them through the season. Playing time is a different story. I wouldn't be surprised to see Gore or Shady a non-injury inactive at some point throughout the year. No reason to force feed these guys the ball, but all the reason to keep as many good players around as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 I would keep Shady, Gore, Wade and Singletary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 I’d be quite surprised if Wade made the team. I’d also be surprised if he made any team after that. Nice story for sure but it’s an uphill battle. Singletary is going to be deadly though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said: I’d be quite surprised if Wade made the team. I’d also be surprised if he made any team after that. Nice story for sure but it’s an uphill battle. Singletary is going to be deadly though. I'm anxious to see how he does after a few more games. RB is the easiest position to come in green and excel at. He has natural ability. Hand him the ball and run Forest run! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 1 hour ago, VW82 said: I wasn't a fan of Singletary in this game. His run on 2nd and 5 in that second series was bad. Line got a nice push with so much open field out to the right. Prime Shady would have turned that into a 20 yard run. Singletary instead hesitates and then runs straight ahead into their DE. One rushing attempt doesn't make a career but that one left an impression. I finally got to see that clip. This isn't accurate. The LB sealed the edge; he was unblocked. There was no outside to break it to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 Just now, Fan in San Diego said: I'm anxious to see how he does after a few more games. RB is the easiest position to come in green and excel at. He has natural ability. Hand him the ball and run Forest run! He has athletic ability no doubt. And he showed great speed and ability to run straight on Thursday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said: He has athletic ability no doubt. And he showed great speed and ability to run straight on Thursday. Fortunately, we will get a few more games to see Wade's ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW82 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 22 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: I finally got to see that clip. This isn't accurate. The LB sealed the edge; he was unblocked. There was no outside to break it to. I’ve watched the play multiple times now. It’s at 7:50 of the first quarter. There was tones of daylight out to the right but Singletary hesitated then ran straight ahead instead of bouncing it wide for a first down. It’s only one run . He looked better in the passing game than I thought he would for a rookie. Let’s see what he becomes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 6 minutes ago, VW82 said: I’ve watched the play multiple times now. It’s at 7:50 of the first quarter. There was tones of daylight out to the right but Singletary hesitated then ran straight ahead instead of bouncing it wide for a first down. It’s only one run . He looked better in the passing game than I thought he would for a rookie. Let’s see what he becomes. It is sort of an optical illusion. That is what I saw the first go around. Then I watched a second time and realized the LB had come through clean. The guy blocking him embarrassingly fell to his feet. That is why Singletary cut back in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 On 8/9/2019 at 1:40 AM, JoPar_v2 said: Let's just hope we have 2 tight ends healthy at any given time. On a positive note..Unger from CH 7 said Croom practiced yesterday. 55 minutes ago, Fan in San Diego said: I would keep Shady, Gore, Wade and Singletary. I need to see if Wade can block before I make a decision.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 I think it will be Shady Gore Singletary Perry Perry offers STs so he will edge out yeldon and Murphy. Wade to the PS. Is he even subject to waivers or does he go right to the PS without waivers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 3 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: What about all the other good plays? Did those leave an impression? You know what impression I got? This kid looks pretty good for a rookie in his first action against pro opposition. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 4 hours ago, VW82 said: I wasn't a fan of Singletary in this game. His run on 2nd and 5 in that second series was bad. Line got a nice push with so much open field out to the right. Prime Shady would have turned that into a 20 yard run. Singletary instead hesitates and then runs straight ahead into their DE. One rushing attempt doesn't make a career but that one left an impression. Darn it! And I has hoping for the second coming of Thurman Thomas in his first NFL action as rookie. Maybe he'll learn and impress by the season opener. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Fan in San Diego said: I'm anxious to see how he does after a few more games. RB is the easiest position to come in green and excel at. He has natural ability. Hand him the ball and run Forest run! A potential 4th string RB must offer something on Special Teams in order to secure a roster spot, especially in this case. They cab essentially keep 5 RBs to start the year, 4 on the active roster with Wade protected to the practice squad. They could always activate him in the active roster if they wanted and release the fourth guy, but that's not happening this year. You say it's easy to come in an run but playing RB is so much more than just running with the ball. Pass pro, blitz pickup, situational awareness, etc. He may be an amazing athlete, but with the international program essentially gifting the Bills a 54th roster spot, there is zero reason for him to be on the 53 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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