stevewin Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 1 hour ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Who is the huge dude in the blue shirt that dwarfs Ed. Can we draft him too? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 I like the pick ... I will predict that the book on him, however, will be to run right at him and wear him down. How the D handles that strategy will go a long way towards his success Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: The defense ISNT EVEN BROKEN lol.....it was a top 10 NFL defense last season.....Oliver might get it to 5 Would not have a problem if every single pick from here on out was offense...... Oliver will be fine. Now some more help on the edge. Let's see what the Bills do. So many good players left on both sides of the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 12 minutes ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said: I like the pick ... I will predict that the book on him, however, will be to run right at him and wear him down. How the D handles that strategy will go a long way towards his success DL rotation? I think thatll be fine. Put Phillips in for 40% of the snaps like they are planning to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 My profile picture should tell you everything you need to know about how I feel about this pick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamkrgr Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 We should still try to get Ziggy Ansah. If healthy that would put our pass rush on another level. So happy with this pick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 36 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Compare the two DTs--the one walking through the door above and the guy a few posts back sneezing into his sleeve--and tell me which one looks more physically and mentally ready for the NFL.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW82 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 (edited) I'm still a little shocked we took Oliver. He seems like the opposite of a McD guy. A highly touted recruit with attitude problems. I always get a little nervous taking someone really high and immediately asking him to play a different position than what got him there. How often does that work? This feels like a huge gamble. I'd be more concerned if I didn't have so much faith in McD. Trust the process, I guess. Edited April 26, 2019 by VW82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, VW82 said: I'm still a little shocked we took Oliver. He seems like the opposite of a McD guy. A highly touted recruit with attitude problems. I always get a little nervous taking someone really high and immediately asking him to play a different position than what got him there. How often does that work? This feels like a huge gamble. I'd be more concerned if I didn't have so much faith in McD. Trust the process, I guess. Attitude problems? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, VW82 said: I'm still a little shocked we took Oliver. He seems like the opposite of a McD guy. A highly touted recruit with attitude problems. I always get a little nervous taking someone really high and immediately asking him to play a different position than what got him there. How often does that work? This feels like a huge gamble. I'd be more concerned if I didn't have so much faith in McD. Trust the process, I guess. different position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Attitude problems? Yeah. Oliver took exception to his coach trying to rip his jacket off on the sidelines. Clearly a bad apple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 8 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: different position? Oh yeah this guy has attitude problems written all over him lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 56 minutes ago, stevewin said: Who is the huge dude in the blue shirt that dwarfs Ed. Can we draft him too? my guess is brother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 13 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Attitude problems? I mean I can only see this two ways really either in their talks with him in the draft process they're confident it was a non issue or they're just confident that the culture they've created will be able to absorb it. I mean the defense is basically all back from last year as opposed to the offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, DC Tom said: More seriously...he's fast, with a good burst, but light. No small chance he gets swallowed up by interior linemen in the pros. But on the other hand...between him and Edmunds, the Bills have some freakish athletic talent up the middle of the defense. If Oliver can use his speed to shed blocks and/or draw double-teams and make Edmunds freer to make plays, the middle of the defense could be very strong. Opponents are in trouble. They have to deal with Stars big Ass. How are they suppose to double Hughes, Star and Oliver. I probably should say triple team for Hughes. 2 offensive players and one game official. Edited April 26, 2019 by formerlyofCtown 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFlutie Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 So I'm super-excited about this pick, and Oliver is a monster. He also looks like he's genuinely excited to be a Bill. That being said...I think a valid question is, "as this pick relates to our overall defense, did we really get better on D, or just replace Kyle Williams?" Oliver seems to have all the same traits- high motor, lightning quick off the ball, good technique, undersized. What's the difference that's going to make our D better than it was with Kyle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, BringBackFlutie said: So I'm super-excited about this pick, and Oliver is a monster. He also looks like he's genuinely excited to be a Bill. That being said...I think a valid question is, "as this pick relates to our overall defense, did we really get better on D, or just replace Kyle Williams?" Oliver seems to have all the same traits- high motor, lightning quick off the ball, good technique, undersized. What's the difference that's going to make our D better than it was with Kyle? Oliver graded out as a Elite run defender I love Meatball......one of my all time favorite bills....the fact is Kyle Williams play was slipping the last 2 years...he was NOT the player he once was and he never graded out as a Elite run defender. We improved......and then you have Horrible Harry in his second year to go along with him and two other NFL veteran starter DT's in the stable. We improved 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 The way he got excited yesterday reminded me of when Frank Gore signed and put on that helmet. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: Oliver graded out as a Elite run defender I love Meatball......one of my all time favorite bills....the fact is Kyle Williams play was slipping the last 2 years...he was NOT the player he once was and he never graded out as a Elite run defender. We improved......and then you have Horrible Harry in his second year to go along with him and two other NFL veteran starter DT's in the stable. We improved The other part is we don't have the meatball now. So we needed someone in order just to maintain what we had with him else we were slipping. I agree young Oliver could be an upgrade over Williams from last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 What a stud! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elroy16 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 (edited) I'd love to be a fly on the wall for that conversation. Edited April 26, 2019 by elroy16 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFlutie Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, elroy16 said: I'd love to be a fly on the wall for that conversation. Wow. Talley is a giant man for a linebacker from that era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW82 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 47 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Attitude problems? https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/11/19/2019-draft-ed-oliver-attitude-character-houston-will-grier-chip-kelly-brian-kelly-trevor-lawrence "Houston DT Ed Oliver’s run-in with coach Major Applewhite wouldn’t be a big deal if Oliver didn’t already carry a bit of rep in this regard. According to scouts, Oliver has been widely seen as high-maintenance, and as a guy who’s gotten things his way a lot (his high school defensive coordinator, A.J. Blum, was hired as his position coach two years ago) since arriving on campus as the first five-star recruit in program history." 49 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: different position? He was primarily a nose tackle at Houston whereas we're going to play him as a three technique. Nose is more lateral movement. It's possible he adds positional versatility which is always a bonus. It's also possible he's not really a great fit at either position at the NFL level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, VW82 said: https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/11/19/2019-draft-ed-oliver-attitude-character-houston-will-grier-chip-kelly-brian-kelly-trevor-lawrence "Houston DT Ed Oliver’s run-in with coach Major Applewhite wouldn’t be a big deal if Oliver didn’t already carry a bit of rep in this regard. According to scouts, Oliver has been widely seen as high-maintenance, and as a guy who’s gotten things his way a lot (his high school defensive coordinator, A.J. Blum, was hired as his position coach two years ago) since arriving on campus as the first five-star recruit in program history." He was primarily a nose tackle at Houston whereas we're going to play him as a three technique. Nose is more lateral movement. It's possible he adds positional versatility which is always a bonus. It's also possible he's not really a great fit at either position at the NFL level. honestly, I believe you have no idea what you're talking about but you go ahead and be negative and rain on the parade about this great pick, that's your prerogative. as for the attitude, goes with the territory (defense) and I'm good with some attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Who is the best “edge rusher” left? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 55 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said: Opponents are in trouble. They have to deal with Stars big Ass. How are they suppose to double Hughes, Star and Oliver. I probably should say triple team for Hughes. 2 offensive players and one game official. And if Harrison Phillips can dominate the middle and become an anchor for them to pivot on... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 49 minutes ago, BringBackFlutie said: So I'm super-excited about this pick, and Oliver is a monster. He also looks like he's genuinely excited to be a Bill. That being said...I think a valid question is, "as this pick relates to our overall defense, did we really get better on D, or just replace Kyle Williams?" Oliver seems to have all the same traits- high motor, lightning quick off the ball, good technique, undersized. What's the difference that's going to make our D better than it was with Kyle? 42 minutes ago, YattaOkasan said: The other part is we don't have the meatball now. So we needed someone in order just to maintain what we had with him else we were slipping. I agree young Oliver could be an upgrade over Williams from last year. What Yatta said. Even if we didn't improve with the selection of Oliver (though I be we did), we at least probably maintained status quo. Even that would be nothing to sneeze at, given that failing to maintain said status quo could've meant a precipitous drop in defensive effectiveness. If Oliver is as talented as they say, with comparisons to John Randle and Aaron Donald and such, it's hard not to feel like we upgraded. As much as we all love Kyle Williams, he was never a John Randle or an Aaron Donald. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Press conference at OBD at 4 p.m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 17 hours ago, BuffaloBud420 said: Too small That’s what she said. Oh, btw, Bye now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, eball said: Press conference at OBD at 4 p.m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 3 hours ago, Real McCoy said: Hock was out of our control regardless? Not sure what he was getting at? Right. If a team took Hock after us, there might be a point but, even if Hock becomes great, if Oliver becomes great, it still makes no difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 15 minutes ago, eball said: Press conference at OBD at 4 p.m. Good put it live on WGR, and keep replaying it until 8:00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elroy16 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Talking with Chris Brown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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K-9 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 53 minutes ago, VW82 said: https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/11/19/2019-draft-ed-oliver-attitude-character-houston-will-grier-chip-kelly-brian-kelly-trevor-lawrence "Houston DT Ed Oliver’s run-in with coach Major Applewhite wouldn’t be a big deal if Oliver didn’t already carry a bit of rep in this regard. According to scouts, Oliver has been widely seen as high-maintenance, and as a guy who’s gotten things his way a lot (his high school defensive coordinator, A.J. Blum, was hired as his position coach two years ago) since arriving on campus as the first five-star recruit in program history." He was primarily a nose tackle at Houston whereas we're going to play him as a three technique. Nose is more lateral movement. It's possible he adds positional versatility which is always a bonus. It's also possible he's not really a great fit at either position at the NFL level. I can't disagree more with either bold text. Nose requires sheer bulk and ability to hold your gap. Lateral movement ability, while nice, is not as important as sheer strength and the ability to occupy blockers. Per the second bold text sentence, Oliver was tailor made for the 3T spot. His athleticism is superior, especially his short area quickness; like as good or better than some good wideouts. And while the 3 is where I expect him to play predominantly, his athleticism will allow him to slide out to the 5T as well. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: He also rubbed his hands together with excitement. Was awesome 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Canadian Bills Fan said: He also rubbed his hands together with excitement. Was awesome Wilkins on the 'Phins answered the same way. I am ok this once for all 3 other teams in the division to group up on this 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 14 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: They're all coming after the old man. He better fine tune that quick release. Mark my words Brady will finally go down with a career ending injury. I have to correct myself though. Simmons is probably the #3 DT in this class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said: Wilkins on the 'Phins answered the same way. I am ok this once for all 3 other teams in the division to group up on this LOVE the avatar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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