Reed83HOF Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 https://www.sny.tv/jets/news/sources-jets-seem-determined-to-trade-down-in-first-round-of-nfl-draft/306414048 According to multiple NFL sources, the Jets seem "determined" to trade down in the first round of the NFL Draft, which begins on Thursday in Nashville. Jets GM Mike Maccagnan has made it clear several times that he's "open" to the idea, though he may be downplaying just how open to it he actually is. "They seem to really, really want to move down," said one NFL executive. "Maybe they're just keeping their options open, but it sure seems like that No. 3 pick is for sale." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornette's Commentary Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 I hope Beane doesn't try to move up to the 3rd spot. That would mean having to give a division rival a 2020 1st and possibly a 2019 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 I hope they do 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimKellyTryouts Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Oh, those poor guys. If they can't find a suitor, they'll have to be stuck with Bosa/Allen instead ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, JimKellyTryouts said: Oh, those poor guys. If they can't find a suitor, they'll have to be stuck with Bosa/Allen instead ? brutal for them. no matter who they pick< i want to keep an eye on them Jets. they might be a thorn in our side Opening day will be awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 19, 2019 Author Share Posted April 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Cornette's Commentary said: I hope Beane doesn't try to move up to the 3rd spot. That would mean having to give a division rival a 2020 1st and possibly a 2019 2nd. I'm OK with a 2020 1st rounder. We should be in the late teens to mid 20s. I think that draft will be like last years, a decent 1-12ish and then a bunch of the same grades from the mid first through 2nd. There are 111 underclassman who declared (record high), which seems like it will be a bit thin in regards to depth of talent. The 2019 draft is very deep and stocked with talent. I'd do all that I could to hold on our #2 this year and give a 2019 3rd and 2020 1st to move up. I would look to use some of our collection of mid & late round picks to move back up in RD3 this year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornette's Commentary Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said: I'm OK with a 2020 1st rounder. We should be in the late teens to mid 20s. I think that draft will be like last years, a decent 1-12ish and then a bunch of the same grades from the mid first through 2nd. There are 111 underclassman who declared (record high), which seems like it will be a bit thin in regards to depth of talent. The 2019 draft is very deep and stocked with talent. I'd do all that I could to hold on our #2 this year and give a 2019 3rd and 2020 1st to move up. I would look to use some of our collection of mid & late round picks to move back up in RD3 this year You don't know that. Injuries and bad defense could result in a 5-11/4-12 season, which means handing the Jets a top 5 pick in 2020 that could yield them Trey Smith, Jerry Jeudy, Derrick Brown or AJ Epenesa. Are you saying that you could accept any of those outcomes? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Well, one team recognizes that when you have a young QB who is in dire need of weapons, using your first pick on defense makes no sense, even if there are "generational" talents available. This was entirely predictable, especially with the Jets lacking a second round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, Cornette's Commentary said: You don't know that. Injuries and bad defense could result in a 5-11/4-12 season, which means handing the Jets a top 5 pick in 2020 that could yield them Trey Smith, Jerry Jeudy, Derrick Brown or AJ Epenesa. Are you saying that you could accept any of those outcomes? I don’t know why you think our defense is going to be so terrible....? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornette's Commentary Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: I don’t know why you think our defense is going to be so terrible....? Um, Kyle Williams retired and I have ZERO confidence in Jordan Phillips being able to replace him. If Hughes continues to face double teams, and neither Lawson nor Yarbrough can take advantage of that, our pass rush is nonexistant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Just now, Cornette's Commentary said: Um, Kyle Williams retired and I have ZERO confidence in Jordan Phillips being able to replace him. If Hughes continues to face double teams, and neither Lawson nor Yarbrough can take advantage of that, our pass rush is nonexistant. kyle was good but if he's why you think our defense was good last year you're wrong. he can be replaced 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 19, 2019 Author Share Posted April 19, 2019 11 minutes ago, Cornette's Commentary said: You don't know that. Injuries and bad defense could result in a 5-11/4-12 season, which means handing the Jets a top 5 pick in 2020 that could yield them Trey Smith, Jerry Jeudy, Derrick Brown or AJ Epenesa. Are you saying that you could accept any of those outcomes? Roll the dice. If they have a strong conviction you go and get your guy. We are not going to have a top 5 pick next year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornette's Commentary Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Just now, aristocrat said: kyle was good but if he's why you think our defense was good last year you're wrong. he can be replaced Yes, he can be replaced. But, he needs to be replaced with a GOOD PLAYER. Not some cast-off that didn't record one sack last year and is being expected to take Kyle's spot full-time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 19, 2019 Author Share Posted April 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Cornette's Commentary said: Yes, he can be replaced. But, he needs to be replaced with a GOOD PLAYER. Not some cast-off that didn't record one sack last year and is being expected to take Kyle's spot full-time. Which is why you move up to go get your guy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 24 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: I'm OK with a 2020 1st rounder. We should be in the late teens to mid 20s. I think that draft will be like last years, a decent 1-12ish and then a bunch of the same grades from the mid first through 2nd. There are 111 underclassman who declared (record high), which seems like it will be a bit thin in regards to depth of talent. The 2019 draft is very deep and stocked with talent. I'd do all that I could to hold on our #2 this year and give a 2019 3rd and 2020 1st to move up. I would look to use some of our collection of mid & late round picks to move back up in RD3 this year You don't know that. If Josh Allen progresses as well as many of the best 2nd year QBs have in the past, we very well could be drafting #32 in the 1st round. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 I hope they do trade down. Mike Maccagnan has not shown to be a great drafting GM. But it’s harder to miss on a top 3 pick (that is not a QB...), especially in a year with some elite pass rushers at the top of the draft. Trading down increases the chances that Mac drafts another bust... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 12 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Which is why you move up to go get your guy THIS ^^ Right here..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 19, 2019 Author Share Posted April 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said: You don't know that. If Josh Allen progresses as well as many of the best 2nd year QBs have in the past, we very well could be drafting #32 in the 1st round. LOL I love the top few DL in this draft and Beane will certainly be aggressive if he has a partner (or needs one). Oliver, Allen Williams Bosa are head shoulders above others in this class. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reader Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 34 minutes ago, Cornette's Commentary said: You don't know that. Injuries and bad defense could result in a 5-11/4-12 season, which means handing the Jets a top 5 pick in 2020 that could yield them Trey Smith, Jerry Jeudy, Derrick Brown or AJ Epenesa. Are you saying that you could accept any of those outcomes? Yeah kind of like what happened to Houston, with Watson they looked like a team on the rise and after his injury they ended up giving the Browns the 4th pick in the draft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 i mean who's trading up for who this year? big trades are for qbs or big times wrs usually. not d lineman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 48 minutes ago, mannc said: Well, one team recognizes that when you have a young QB who is in dire need of weapons, using your first pick on defense makes no sense, even if there are "generational" talents available. This was entirely predictable, especially with the Jets lacking a second round pick. If you can get a "generational" talent you take that player. Players like that only come around once in a generation ? 44 minutes ago, Cornette's Commentary said: Um, Kyle Williams retired and I have ZERO confidence in Jordan Phillips being able to replace him. If Hughes continues to face double teams, and neither Lawson nor Yarbrough can take advantage of that, our pass rush is nonexistant. Relax there buddy. Beane will add DL help through the draft. He has a plan since he knew for over a year that #95 was retiring. It's not like last year's OL when Woods was forced to retire and Incognito suddenly went B@t $h!+ crazy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 19, 2019 Author Share Posted April 19, 2019 22 minutes ago, aristocrat said: i mean who's trading up for who this year? big trades are for qbs or big times wrs usually. not d lineman McD prioritizes Interior DL pressure over edge. After QB pass rush/pressure is the next highest positional value Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Let them do it to a team who needs a QB. Let two QBs go in the top 10 so that more people slide to us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 53 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Which is why you move up to go get your guy I really hope you guys aren't implying that we swap 9 for 3 and give up our 1st next year for Oliver. Really? I like him a lot, but not that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjnick Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Reed83HOF said: https://www.sny.tv/jets/news/sources-jets-seem-determined-to-trade-down-in-first-round-of-nfl-draft/306414048 According to multiple NFL sources, the Jets seem "determined" to trade down in the first round of the NFL Draft, which begins on Thursday in Nashville. Jets GM Mike Maccagnan has made it clear several times that he's "open" to the idea, though he may be downplaying just how open to it he actually is. "They seem to really, really want to move down," said one NFL executive. "Maybe they're just keeping their options open, but it sure seems like that No. 3 pick is for sale." Would the Jets really trade with us? I highly doubt it when that pick would be either Bosa or Josh Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 1 hour ago, 3rdand12 said: no matter who they pick< i want to keep an eye on them Jets. That’s fine...Coach Gase will keep an eye on you! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 4 hours ago, aristocrat said: kyle was good but if he's why you think our defense was good last year you're wrong. he can be replaced Run D not good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: That’s fine...Coach Gase will keep an eye on you! we shall see about that Just now, Mr. WEO said: Run D not good neither is our run game Edited April 20, 2019 by 3rdand12 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Trade up, please! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 12 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Run D not good Thats a good point and We need to address that cause we face a lot of great rbs this year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansLanda Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 (edited) smoke screen aside, this year's josh may best fit into a 3-4 scheme. So I can sorta see it but just get QW, NYJ? We can all just hope 3 QBs go in top 10. Edited April 20, 2019 by HansLanda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakeBuffaloGreatAgain Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 17 hours ago, billsbackto81 said: I really hope you guys aren't implying that we swap 9 for 3 and give up our 1st next year for Oliver. Really? I like him a lot, but not that much. What if it’s for Q. Williams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 41 minutes ago, MakeBuffaloGreatAgain said: What if it’s for Q. Williams? Either would be a firing offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 19 hours ago, mannc said: Well, one team recognizes that when you have a young QB who is in dire need of weapons, using your first pick on defense makes no sense, even if there are "generational" talents available. This was entirely predictable, especially with the Jets lacking a second round pick. How do you know if they have not picked yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 19 hours ago, Reed83HOF said: Roll the dice. If they have a strong conviction you go and get your guy. We are not going to have a top 5 pick next year... The group of WRs coming out next year will be much better in 2020. I would hate to miss out on one to move up for a better DT. Jmo. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 How determined are they? I'll give them a 4th to move to 9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, MakeBuffaloGreatAgain said: What if it’s for Q. Williams? Tempting. For Q? Gun to my head, yes. He's about as close as to a sure thing as it gets. I'd still hate it though! Edited April 20, 2019 by billsbackto81 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 First off I see no way Beane trades with a division rival in the 1st round. No way. Second, for sure the Jets want to trade down and pick up at least a second round pick (they don't have one). I can't see a team wanting to move up that is between the Jets and Buffalo. The QB (or teams that might draft QB) are not moving that far up IMO. Buffalo has a better chance for those teams to deal with. Everything QB wise depends on NYG's pick. Of course, it's not 100% a done deal that ARZ goes with Murray. Wouldn't that throw a wrench in the draft if the Cards pick Bosa! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Inter-division trade for the 3rd pick ? The Jets may trade down, but in won’t be with the Bills or any other AFCE team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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