The Wiz Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 (edited) List of names (not sure if legit or not but found it here) https://www.wtnh.com/sports/patriots-owner-robert-kraft-identified-in-human-trafficking-and-prostitution-ring/1801506561 Edit: better image. Edited February 22, 2019 by The Wiz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Just now, whatdrought said: The charges mean absolutely nothing. He was actively involved in human trafficking whether or not he was a decision maker in the process. The description of the conditions that these women were kept in alone is enough to make it clear that this isn't a basic prostitution thing. The public optic of this will be huge. I think we have differing opinions on “actively involved” if all he has done is get a massage with a happy ending Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Holy cow. I always thought he looked like a sleeze ball. What will the NFL do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 "In other news, the NFL has reached a new sponsorship agreement with the Juniper Massage Parlor" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 22, 2019 Author Share Posted February 22, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Herc11 said: I'm guessing its an Asian massage parlor, which are all associated with trafficking and have been forever... The press act like this is a new industry. Human Trafficking is just the new buzzword for it. It’s a world wide problem. No one thinks it is a new problem. It succeeds because of men soliciting. Which is what Kraft was doing. This place was in a strip mall and the women lacked hygiene. As you said - not too hard for a billionaire to figure out what the place was doing. Edited February 22, 2019 by YoloinOhio 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Just now, Aussie Joe said: I think we have differing opinions on “actively involved” if all he has done is get a massage with a happy ending I think you're confusing his knowledge of his involvement with his involvement. Even if he didn't know (which is another conversation) his money was still used for human trafficking. They can't charge him with that unless they prove his intent and knowledge, but the optic of it is still there. He was actively involved in that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said: I think we have differing opinions on “actively involved” if all he has done is get a massage with a happy ending The only thing that matters is the court of public opinion unfortunately. The NFL and CBS knows that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Just now, Aussie Joe said: I think we have differing opinions on “actively involved” if all he has done is get a massage with a happy ending Specifically paid for it. That's active involvement. It's not a matter of opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, The Wiz said: List of names (not sure if legit or not but found it here) https://www.wtnh.com/sports/patriots-owner-robert-kraft-identified-in-human-trafficking-and-prostitution-ring/1801506561 Edit: better image. Phew, no Pegula, Terrance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Just now, RochesterRob said: The only thing that matters is the court of public opinion unfortunately. The NFL and CBS knows that. Ok.. let’s wait and see what happens.. 1 minute ago, LeGOATski said: Specifically paid for it. That's active involvement. It's not a matter of opinion. Prostitution yes.. not human trafficking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc11 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 (edited) 21 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: It’s a world wide problem. No one thinks it is a new problem. It succeeds because of men soliciting. Which is what Kraft was doing. Aware of not. It absolutely is a world wide problem, but did you know of the term 10 years ago? Or even that it was such a problem? I can't even drive a mile where I live without driving past a Asian massage parlor advertising $20 foot massages, etc... People are horrified when they read about it or hear it on the news, but don't give a crap when its happening right in front of their oblivious eyes. Edited February 22, 2019 by Herc11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Hahaha...I'm sure his wife will be happy to see this... But seriously?? Rich dudes use escort services... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Just now, YoloinOhio said: It’s a world wide problem. No one thinks it is a new problem. It succeeds because of men soliciting. Which is what Kraft was doing. Aware of not. Every year we hear about the FBI and other groups busting huge rings that were opperating around the Superbowl- to my knowledge, the NFL has never done much or said much in relation to this? - that being said, this will likely become a thing. If a Running back can be exiled for fighting with a woman who was an active participant in the fight, why is it hard to imagine an owner getting exiled for this? I feel that the double standard on that would give weight to the "rich white owners and their black slaves/players" narrative that many like to push. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 16 minutes ago, judman said: I for one am sick of seeing this guy and his son get stroked by the sports media. I'm gonna bet the old man steps aside and junior takes over. Let's hope that they follow the same path as the Raiders. I don't think the "sports media" was doing the stroking in this case... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 46 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: How amazing would it be if Kraft gets suspended for 4 games? Head Coach, HoF QB, and Owner will have all been subject to suspensions and fines. This is a whole lot more than sucker punching a woman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 22, 2019 Author Share Posted February 22, 2019 Haha 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 1 minute ago, matter2003 said: Hahaha...I'm sure his wife will be happy to see this... But seriously?? Rich dudes use escort services... Maybe he just felt like a rub-n-tug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Just now, YoloinOhio said: Haha Pay that man. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: ...and karma was his name o loving this. what excuses will patsie fans/lovers be making up for this one, LOL Hookergate, thank God something to bump Jessie Smollett off the national news! Edited February 22, 2019 by LABILLBACKER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, The Wiz said: List of names (not sure if legit or not but found it here) https://www.wtnh.com/sports/patriots-owner-robert-kraft-identified-in-human-trafficking-and-prostitution-ring/1801506561 Edit: better image. Schefter's tweet said there may be some big names still to come, I dont recognize any others on that list 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Phew, no Pegula, Terrance! But I was shocked to see Mingfu Lu on there. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Fan in Chicago said: This is fantastic. Only news that can top this is that Brady gets busted to being on PEDs. Marcia getting busted in a gay brothel would be funnier 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordio Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 (edited) Does this honestly surprise anyone. This organization is known liars & cheaters, & they are a disgrace no matter how many championships they have won. Edited February 22, 2019 by Gordio 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Hahaha...I'm sure his wife will be happy to see this... But seriously?? Rich dudes use escort services... As long as she keeps his money, I'm sure she doesn't care. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Just now, Bray Wyatt said: Schefter's tweet said there may be some big names still to come, I dont recognize any others on that list Neither do I but I'm not going to pretend I know who any of those people are. Could be a member of congress on there and I wouldn't know it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordio Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 25 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: He probably has one in Vegas code name Brady 12. She even wears a Brady 12 jersey as part of the encounter. Actually inside the city limits of Vegas prostitution is illegal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: The beginning of the end, karmic wise, of the evil empire?? sells team Was Tom the hooker? Edited February 22, 2019 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 8 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Ok.. let’s wait and see what happens.. Prostitution yes.. not human trafficking You seem to have a limited view on the causes and consequences of prostitution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: As long as she keeps his money, I'm sure she doesn't care. . His wife died a few years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Maybe he just felt like a rub-n-tug Billionaires do NOT go to the same handjob parlors as you, pooj, and the rest of the common folk. That is an unacceptable level of risk. Billionaires get high class escorts to make house calls. Either Kraft has a dirty Chinese hooker kink or theres more to this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Gordio said: Actually inside the city limits of Vegas prostitution is illegal. Yep Human Trafficking is not, and that is what is going to blow this sting up, because there are about 3 of these stings a month in Florida. Only time they get really any press is when 1. Human Trafficking 2. Underage 3. Big Name caught up. This sting meets 1 and 3 Edited February 22, 2019 by MAJBobby 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 The spa’s Yelp page was immediately bombarded with unfunny jokers in Patriots avatars, but a deeper look reveals that at least one customer knew of the spa’s propensity toward prostitution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: You seem to have a limited view on the causes and consequences of prostitution. Possibly... I’m certainly no expert in the area.. I’m just saying I don’t think this incident will lead to Kraft being forced to sell the team.. Time will tell.. Edited February 22, 2019 by Aussie Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Just now, Jauronimo said: Billionaires do NOT go to the same handjob parlors as you, pooj, and the rest of the common folk. That is an unacceptable level of risk. Billionaires get high class escorts to make house calls. Either Kraft has a dirty Chinese hooker kink or theres more to this. He was there picking up his profits. I am not serious (or maybe not serious) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Yep Human Trafficking is not, and that is what is going to blow this sting up, because there are about 3 of these stings a month in Florida. Only time they get really any press is when 1. Human Trafficking 2. Underage 3. Big Name caught up. This sting meets 1 and 3 Could be all three though. Need to wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Just now, Aussie Joe said: Possibly... I’n certainly am no expert in the area.. I’m just saying I don’t think this incident will lead to Kraft being forced to sell the team.. Time will tell.. It’s a tarnish on the NFL shield get r done roger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Divorce sells team Was Tom the hooker? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, JMF2006 said: His wife died a few years ago. I was referring to his girlfriend since 2012. I thought they were married. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 22, 2019 Author Share Posted February 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, JMF2006 said: His wife died a few years ago. He has a girlfriend who had a baby recently but he’s not the father https://www.google.com/amp/s/pagesix.com/2018/02/28/robert-krafts-much-younger-girlfriend-secretly-had-a-baby/amp/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Just saying ? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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