SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 9 minutes ago, iinii said: I get that you want to paint a scarlet letter on Kraft but nothing has been resolved. The Lotus Flower probably just opened in-place of the Orchid with the same girls. It is a tragedy of epic proportions but until real punishment is bestowed on all Johns and not just an owner of a major sports organization it is going to be same as it ever was. The people that are making jokes in this thread are the enablers. There is zero humor in this situation. the scarlet letter has been planted and shall remain for life. the humor is the IDIOTS who support the trade. Please don't pretend (at lease with me) that there isn't concern over the slave trade. I have mentioned it a few times. This is a National Emergency. other than taking a girl out on a date I have never paid for sex and laugh at anyone that does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 5 hours ago, OJ Tom said: A good read.... https://www.complex.com/sports/2013/09/history-athletes-busted-with-prostitutes/james-worthy I wonder how many prostitutes the "great" 90's Bills were involved with? Hmmmm...... I wonder how many strippers have been "overpaid" by Buffalo Sabres, Bills, Bisons, Braves and Bandits? Hmmm... Methinks the outrage is mostly fueled by a rabid hatred of the Patriots, and not so much by concern for "human trafficking". I could be wrong.... No, you’re not wrong - the thread is most definitely fueled by a rabid hatred for the Patriots, and the hilarity of their 77 year old billionaire owner being stupid enough to put himself in such a situation. So what? . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never NEVER Give-up Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 With 6 SB wins, you'd think he's had his fill of happy endings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 26 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: SHAME SHAME SHAME 5 minutes ago, The Senator said: No, you’re not wrong - the thread is most definitely fueled by a rabid hatred for the Patriots, and the hilarity of their 77 year old billionaire owner being stupid enough to put himself in such a situation. So what? . exactly. i don't see what the problem is here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, The Senator said: No, you’re not wrong - the thread is most definitely fueled by a rabid hatred for the Patriots, and the hilarity of their 77 year old billionaire owner being stupid enough to put himself in such a situation. So what? Again, it's entertainment! Plus Kraft owns a team in a league that demands its players follow a personal conduct policy or else be punished. So if they don't follow it themselves, it merits ridicule and scorn. And the same would apply to an owner of a team that I/we don't hate. Edited February 25, 2019 by Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 6 hours ago, OJ Tom said: If he was just getting 45 minutes of massage, and a ball rub for the last 15 minutes from a 40 year old Chinese woman (which is generally the case with these "massage spas") that he paid $50 for at the counter, with $40 for a tip, I really don't see the big deal. If there is more to it, then I am fine with him being held accountable. My point about the nail salons is that THE SAME WOMEN that work the massage tables, are also working at the salons, giving low cost service to people (mainly women, many of them 'pussyhatters', no doubt) that KNOW full well that they are receiving a service at a "discounted rate", and are just as culpable for exploiting the trafficked women as the guys getting HJ's. One involves "sex" (cough) at an exorbitant rate, while the other involves a service at a "below market value" rate. Men/sex Women/vanity I'm right. The big deal is what kind of billionaire is going to a seedy $50 ***** parlor to get tugged off by a middle aged fob? Why is a billionaire, public figure, risking getting picked up in a vice sting? That is what poor people do. This is a textbook case of class appropriation and me and the other poors are outraged!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 10 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: The big deal is what kind of billionaire is going to a seedy $50 ***** parlor to get tugged off by a middle aged fob? Why is a billionaire, public figure, risking getting picked up in a vice sting? That is what poor people do. This is a textbook case of class appropriation and me and the other poors are outraged!! This is why I kneel. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 (edited) ?. Edited February 25, 2019 by Turk71 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 11 hours ago, iinii said: It is a misdemeanor folks. If it was anybody but Kraft the thread wouldn’t have made it 10 pages. The moral outrage at him is driven by envy. So if we are to take his football team then should we take every business from every owner that has ever engaged in solicitation? Or just the ones that we can’t beat in football? My outrage is because he's a fraud, and two-faced scumbag, who also owns a great football team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Hix Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Jauronimo said: The big deal is what kind of billionaire is going to a seedy $50 ***** parlor to get tugged off by a middle aged fob? Why is a billionaire, public figure, risking getting picked up in a vice sting? That is what poor people do. This is a textbook case of class appropriation and me and the other poors are outraged!! Not sure if you intended the “seedy” pun, either way I threw up a little. Some LPGA golfer’s boyfriend got caught up in this sting too. I’m starting to wonder if maybe this place isn’t some dive but has some real talent. I need pics of the masseuses to be sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 I remembering being a the bar at the breakers hotel, and someone going out of they way to tell me that during the height of the season, the place is wall to with escorts. I had also heard of the massage parlors as well, but not sure of this specific one. There just seems to be a lot of sex workers in the Jupiter/palm beach area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 I don't get it. Other than wealthy people there isn't much in Jupiter. Course I haven't been in Jupiter in a decade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 32 minutes ago, teef said: I remembering being a the bar at the breakers hotel, and someone going out of they way to tell me that during the height of the season, the place is wall to with escorts. I had also heard of the massage parlors as well, but not sure of this specific one. There just seems to be a lot of sex workers in the Jupiter/palm beach area. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 14 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: exactly. there's no shortage of it there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 50 minutes ago, teef said: I remembering being a the bar at the breakers hotel, and someone going out of they way to tell me that during the height of the season, the place is wall to with escorts. I had also heard of the massage parlors as well, but not sure of this specific one. There just seems to be a lot of sex workers in the Jupiter/palm beach area. No surprise. Look at all the money in the area. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 52 minutes ago, teef said: I remembering being a the bar at the breakers hotel, and someone going out of they way to tell me that during the height of the season, the place is wall to with escorts. I had also heard of the massage parlors as well, but not sure of this specific one. There just seems to be a lot of sex workers in the Jupiter/palm beach area. Weird, I'd have thought there would be more of them in Uranus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 "No...No...You're looking for Mr. Kraft...OK...Bob, it's Liam Neeson on the phone. He says he doesn't have money, but he does have a very particular set of skills he's acquired over the years...and you are NOT going to like them." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, Gugny said: Weird, I'd have thought there would be more of them in Uranus. a planet joke. you should be sold into a sex slave trade for that one. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 9 hours ago, OJ Tom said: If he was just getting 45 minutes of massage, and a ball rub for the last 15 minutes from a 40 year old Chinese woman (which is generally the case with these "massage spas") that he paid $50 for at the counter, with $40 for a tip, I really don't see the big deal. If there is more to it, then I am fine with him being held accountable. My point about the nail salons is that THE SAME WOMEN that work the massage tables, are also working at the salons, giving low cost service to people (mainly women, many of them 'pussyhatters', no doubt) that KNOW full well that they are receiving a service at a "discounted rate", and are just as culpable for exploiting the trafficked women as the guys getting HJ's. One involves "sex" (cough) at an exorbitant rate, while the other involves a service at a "below market value" rate. Men/sex Women/vanity I'm right. Are you saying that just because one (the spa) sometimes involves a vice crime as part of its "service" those establishments are more likely to get shut down and trafficking exposed? You bring up a good point about both establishments having the same problem, but I'm not sure you're right about one being ignored. These three articles are some of the results of a 10 second Google search "trafficking nail salon". There are plenty more mainstream articles to link. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/phillip-martin/nail-salons-and-human-tra_b_669076.html https://www.1010parkplace.com/your-nail-salon-may-be-trafficking-in-slave-labor/ https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-42729302 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, The Senator said: No, you’re not wrong - the thread is most definitely fueled by a rabid hatred for the Patriots, and the hilarity of their 77 year old billionaire owner being stupid enough to put himself in such a situation. So what? . It's fine, but explain it to Augie. 5 minutes ago, snafu said: Are you saying that just because one (the spa) sometimes involves a vice crime as part of its "service" those establishments are more likely to get shut down and trafficking exposed? You bring up a good point about both establishments having the same problem, but I'm not sure you're right about one being ignored. These three articles are some of the results of a 10 second Google search "trafficking nail salon". There are plenty more mainstream articles to link. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/phillip-martin/nail-salons-and-human-tra_b_669076.html https://www.1010parkplace.com/your-nail-salon-may-be-trafficking-in-slave-labor/ https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-42729302 I didn't say the problem was ignored by authorities. I said it was ignored by the customers of the nail salons.( I didn't think that was hard to gather from what I posted). Edited February 25, 2019 by OJ Tom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 8 minutes ago, OJ Tom said: I didn't say the problem was ignored by authorities. I said it was ignored by the customers of the nail salons.( I didn't think that was hard to gather from what I posted). Ugh. I get an "F" in reading comprehension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 (edited) Doesn't mean anything to me, but just adds some weirdness to this whole thang. https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/1100112947051986945 Kraft was at the parlor the morning of the AFC Championship Game. Edited February 25, 2019 by Kelly the Dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 (edited) 25 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said: "No...No...You're looking for Mr. Kraft...OK...Bob, it's Liam Neeson on the phone. He says he doesn't have money, but he does have a very particular set of skills he's acquired over the years...and you are NOT going to like them." Awesome. Well done sure. I was totally blanking on the movie Taken, but I knew there was a great movie reference for this. Edited February 25, 2019 by BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 6 minutes ago, OJ Tom said: It's fine, but explain it to Augie. I’m sorry, I can’t - or won’t try. i’ve tried to ignore the larger social undertones in this thread, not that I disagree with them, but because this is a Buffalo Bills board - therefore, by definition, an anti-Patriots board. I come here mainly for football news, plus to be amused and entertained. There are other, more appropriate forums to voice one’s opinions about social dilemmas. JMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said: Awesome. Well done sure. I was totally blanking on the movie Taken, but I knew there was a great movie reference for this. GOAT, you know...we know, it is not right to do this stuff in the first place. When the girl is young and likely doesn't speak English, your antenna should be up. When she is VERY, VERY young and doesn't speak English your antenna should be a satellite because something is REALLY wrong here. I just don't see how he skates with a slap on the wrist for this. When you are eating wings and you are dipping it in Ranch saying, "Man, that's great blue cheese!"...no...no it's not, but alright. I sort of get it. However, when you are eating wings and dipping them in mustard saying, "Man, that's great blue cheese!"...?....You are a damn liar! Edited February 26, 2019 by dollars 2 donuts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: Doesn't mean anything to me, but just adds some weirdness to this whole thang. https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/1100112947051986945 January 20 2019. The morning OF the AFCCG when you own a private Jet or 2 or 3 ..... Walk in the tug joint at 11 AM and you are out 15 minutes later (10:15 AM in KC) The flight time from Jupiter, Florida to Kansas City, Missouri is: 2 hours, 52 minutes. Kickoff in KC was 6:40 p.m. Edited February 25, 2019 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 RE: the implications for the East and AFC in general...I actually think this is a bad thing. Allows Belichick to consolidate power in that organization which I was until recently pretty certain the Kraft spawn were going to run into the ground. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said: GOAT, you know...we know, it is not right to do this stuff in the first place. When the girl is young and likely doesn't speak English, your antenna should be up. When she is VERY, VERY young and doesn't speak English your antenna should be a satellite because something is REALLY wrong here. I just don't see how he skates with a slap on the wrist for this? When you are eating wings and you are dipping it in Ranch saying, "Man, that's great blue cheese!"...no...no it's not, but alright. I sort of get it. However, when you are eating wings and dipping them in mustard saying, "Man, that's great blue cheese!"...?....You are a damn liar! Let's all take a break from this thread. Watch Taken, and reconvene on how we feel about Mr. Kraft's rub and tug. Although tbh I'm sure Kraft's legal team will mop up the floor with his defense and in a few months.. this'll be another shady post Pats SB win call back at most. JMO. Edited February 25, 2019 by BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 26 minutes ago, OJ Tom said: It's fine, but explain it to Augie. I didn't say the problem was ignored by authorities. I said it was ignored by the customers of the nail salons.( I didn't think that was hard to gather from what I posted). Why? Is getting your nails done illegal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 25, 2019 Author Share Posted February 25, 2019 (edited) Court date of 4/24. His lawyer can attend in his place. Edited February 25, 2019 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Court date of 4/24. His lawyer can attend in his place. Morning of the AFC Championship game?! That makes this like.. Kraft's gross Patriots good luck ritual. Bleh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 9 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Court date of 4/24. His lawyer can attend in his place. ????????????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 25, 2019 Author Share Posted February 25, 2019 44 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: Doesn't mean anything to me, but just adds some weirdness to this whole thang. https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/1100112947051986945 Kraft was at the parlor the morning of the AFC Championship Game. So we have proof he was deflating balls before the AFCC... again. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodbuster Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 That document is pretty damning. Makes his denial seem really hollow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, sodbuster said: That document is pretty damning. Makes his denial seem really hollow. Rich old guys don’t lie! Maybe he can claim CTE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 It all sounds very loving. I mean, he hugged the girl at least three times during the 14 minutes he was at the "salon." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 25, 2019 Author Share Posted February 25, 2019 (edited) Welp I just lost my appetite after reading that. Edited February 25, 2019 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 1 minute ago, eball said: It all sounds very loving. I mean, he hugged the girl at least three times during the 14 minutes he was at the "salon." Safe to say we can call her a lady, the two different women were 43 and 58. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 32 minutes ago, CommonCents said: Safe to say we can call her a lady, the two different women were 43 and 58. It keeps getting curiouser and curiouser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 25, 2019 Author Share Posted February 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Kelly the Dog said: It keeps getting curiouser and curiouser. Yeah they are both much older than his GF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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