Chandler#81 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 https://www.buffalobills.com/news/bills-today-why-oc-brian-daboll-is-encouraged-for-josh-allen-in-his-2nd-season This can’t be right. I read here that Josh wasn’t allowed to audible..? 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 31 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: https://www.buffalobills.com/news/bills-today-why-oc-brian-daboll-is-encouraged-for-josh-allen-in-his-2nd-season This can’t be right. I read here that Josh wasn’t allowed to audible..? Yeah, I heard Josh Allen is a one trick pony from a small school who can throw the ball a mile but can’t hit the broad side of a barn. Yes he can run...big deal. I can too. I heard somewhere we picked the wrong Josh. Daboll must be smoking some Grade A weed. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted February 21, 2019 Author Share Posted February 21, 2019 11 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: Yeah, I heard Josh Allen is a one trick pony from a small school who can throw the ball a mile but can’t hit the broad side of a barn. Yes he can run...big deal. I can too. I heard somewhere we picked the wrong Josh. Daboll must be smoking some Grade A weed. Coach needs to stop by here and brush up on what he’s missing. Giterdone, Coach! 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatonka68 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Sure He was able to. He audibled to a QB scramble often. LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 This cant be right......I heard Josh has BIG hands! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 #wrongjosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Daboll had better be..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Tatonka68 said: Sure He was able to. He audibled to a QB scramble often. LOL with our O Line last season, and group of WR' and TE's Yup, LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Were we expecting Daboll to say it's not looking good and he doesn't expect much improvement in the upcoming season? 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Its a fluff piece....which is fine. The proof will come when we see him back on the field again.....hopefully with better protection, targets, and a running game. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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formerlyofCtown Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 9 hours ago, BringBackFergy said: Yeah, I heard Josh Allen is a one trick pony from a small school who can throw the ball a mile but can’t hit the broad side of a barn. Yes he can run...big deal. I can too. I heard somewhere we picked the wrong Josh. Daboll must be smoking some Grade A weed. Yup because TSW posters are more qualified than Daboll to evaluate QBs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 8 hours ago, Tatonka68 said: Sure He was able to. He audibled to a QB scramble often. LOL No he didn't. Scrambles are called pass plays that turn into QB runs after the ball is snapped. Audibles happen presnap. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Define audible, it says he was able to make pre-snap adjustments. Honestly, I cant imagine any NFL QB in the regular season not being able to audible from at least one of two options (run/pass) on any play unless they are thrown in an emergency situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 20 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: https://www.buffalobills.com/news/bills-today-why-oc-brian-daboll-is-encouraged-for-josh-allen-in-his-2nd-season This can’t be right. I read here that Josh wasn’t allowed to audible..? Paywall, but for those who subscribe, link to the full Athletic article (free trial available). 9 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Define audible, it says he was able to make pre-snap adjustments. Honestly, I cant imagine any NFL QB in the regular season not being able to audible from at least one of two options (run/pass) on any play unless they are thrown in an emergency situation. In a part of the Athletic article not quoted above, Daboll distinctly references "his ability to change plays at the line of scrimmage" eg audible. He pretty much also acknowledges that Allen has a ways to go in adjusting protections for what the D is bringing: " Josh’s understanding, his study habits, the way he goes about his business for a young player, his vision on the defense is good. Still, we need to get it better. Whether it was moving the line one direction or bringing it back or adding another guy to it, he’s had a pretty good understanding of that from the get-go. " Daboll also pretty much threw the OL (coach?) under the bus as far as the run game goes: " The running game starts with getting a hat for a hat at the line of scrimmage and getting the runner to the second level. Regardless of the scheme, whether it’s inside zone, outside zone, gap schemes, perimeter plays, jet sweeps, the basic foundation of the running game starts with getting a hat for a hat at the line of scrimmage. " Pretty strong implication that they weren't getting a "hat for a hat" on the LOS much of the time. Also brings up "but who's our linemen?" implying they didn't have the hosses to do what they wanted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 So we all agree then that there are no excuses for Josh Allen next year? We're not going to use the "he's young" excuse next year right? Allen has continuity with the OC, and the OC is saying he is everything they thought he'd be. So we can expect real results now right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: So we all agree then that there are no excuses for Josh Allen next year? We're not going to use the "he's young" excuse next year right? Allen has continuity with the OC, and the OC is saying he is everything they thought he'd be. So we can expect real results now right? By the end of the day today, I’m going to make you smile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Toll Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, teef said: By the end of the day today, I’m going to make you smile. I’ll be your Hucklebuck... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Paywall, but for those who subscribe, link to the full Athletic article (free trial available). In a part of the Athletic article not quoted above, Daboll distinctly references "his ability to change plays at the line of scrimmage" eg audible. He pretty much also acknowledges that Allen has a ways to go in adjusting protections for what the D is bringing: " Josh’s understanding, his study habits, the way he goes about his business for a young player, his vision on the defense is good. Still, we need to get it better. Whether it was moving the line one direction or bringing it back or adding another guy to it, he’s had a pretty good understanding of that from the get-go. " Daboll also pretty much threw the OL (coach?) under the bus as far as the run game goes: " The running game starts with getting a hat for a hat at the line of scrimmage and getting the runner to the second level. Regardless of the scheme, whether it’s inside zone, outside zone, gap schemes, perimeter plays, jet sweeps, the basic foundation of the running game starts with getting a hat for a hat at the line of scrimmage. " Pretty strong implication that they weren't getting a "hat for a hat" on the LOS much of the time. Also brings up "but who's our linemen?" implying they didn't have the hosses to do what they wanted. Excellent observations, i bolded what I think is the most important question, "brings up "but who's our lineman". Miller has actually regressed, the communication in the interior and on the right side of the line were horrible last year, Miller in particular was constantly blocking no one, often not even chipping when he could. Either Miller just inst smart enough or it was our former OL coach's fault. Edited February 22, 2019 by RoyBatty is alive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 21 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: https://www.buffalobills.com/news/bills-today-why-oc-brian-daboll-is-encouraged-for-josh-allen-in-his-2nd-season This can’t be right. I read here that Josh wasn’t allowed to audible..? Let me wait for C. Biscuit's take before making up my mind 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: So we all agree then that there are no excuses for Josh Allen next year? We're not going to use the "he's young" excuse next year right? Allen has continuity with the OC, and the OC is saying he is everything they thought he'd be. So we can expect real results now right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 3 hours ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: So we all agree then that there are no excuses for Josh Allen next year? We're not going to use the "he's young" excuse next year right? Allen has continuity with the OC, and the OC is saying he is everything they thought he'd be. So we can expect real results now right? The only sure thing that we can all expect next season is the same garbage coming out of your mouth 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, Putin said: The only sure thing that we can all expect next season is the same garbage coming out of your mouth Oh snap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 I want Daboll to get so fat he has to coach from a golf cart. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 22 hours ago, Nextmanup said: Were we expecting Daboll to say it's not looking good and he doesn't expect much improvement in the upcoming season? Exactly, just a fluff piece. Now if he had said "Daboll discouraged by Allen’s progress" ... then we would have something to talk about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted February 22, 2019 Author Share Posted February 22, 2019 3 hours ago, CodeMonkey said: Exactly, just a fluff piece. Now if he had said "Daboll discouraged by Allen’s progress" ... then we would have something to talk about yeah, but the highlight video is cool.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 On 2/21/2019 at 10:49 AM, Chandler#81 said: https://www.buffalobills.com/news/bills-today-why-oc-brian-daboll-is-encouraged-for-josh-allen-in-his-2nd-season This can’t be right. I read here that Josh wasn’t allowed to audible..? I did note Allen audible out of one play last year where he faked the handoff and reversed field on a naked bootleg....right into a defender and lost a few on the play. Not sure what he thought he saw, but it did crack me up. I am also sure he did a few that were more successful. He definitely had more confidence and poise as the season progressed. Almost as if he was starting to grasp the playbook and read defenses better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 (edited) Just once I want to see the headline "Coach says QB is not making any progress and fans should be worried". Edited February 24, 2019 by HappyDays 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted February 24, 2019 Author Share Posted February 24, 2019 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: Just once I want to see the headline "Coach says QB is not making any progress and fans should be worried". Ok, just not Our Coach.. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 He could be the right Josh, but the wrong Allen! Kyle Allen (CAR) was a kid I thought deserved more looks out of C-USA Houston... He's got excellent QB instincts, just no booming arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 This thread can cause Lupus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 (edited) On 2/22/2019 at 11:52 AM, CodeMonkey said: Exactly, just a fluff piece. Now if he had said "Daboll discouraged by Allen’s progress" ... then we would have something to talk about That is true. If he wants to continue in his job, he better not say he is "discouraged". That said, I was "encourage" by the quote by what it did not say - there was no mention of the rocket arm or the running ability as the reason for Daboll being "encouraged". I liked that. On 2/23/2019 at 9:13 PM, HappyDays said: Just once I want to see the headline "Coach says QB is not making any progress and fans should be worried". Didnt he or Beane say that or something close about Shaq Lawson though? Edited February 25, 2019 by IgotBILLStopay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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