Buffalo Barbarian Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Buffalo Timmy said: The orlando sentinel said all players get 3 year $250000 contracts so 80+ per year. Or about same as CFL i believe. i can do this , hold my drink ! Edited February 11, 2019 by Buffalo Barbarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Hotshots game was fun. The kids enjoyed it, too. 70K seat stadium was maybe 1/3 full. The crowd got into it, though. When they score, they play the Shots! song by LMFAO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Not having Ny, Boston or Philly is suicide Actually, it makes no sense to have games in February there. The only team even remotely north is in Utah. The league is not designed to be a major league. The cities you mention don't want minor league teams playing in the dead of winter. The AAF only has 2 teams in NFL cities for a good reason-they're trying to play in places without pro football. Putting teams in NFL cities is what will kill the new XFL. The only XFL city without an NFL team is St. Louis. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 On 2/6/2019 at 9:29 AM, Albany,n.y. said: Before Spurrier went on to become one of the biggest names in college coaching he was the coach of the USFL's Tampa Bay Bandits. When the USFL folded I wanted the Bills to fire Hank Bullough & hire Spurrier. That was before I read the 1986 media guide where it stated in Bill Polian's bio his close ties with Marv Levy. Anyone who read that bio knew that it was only a matter of time before Marv was going to come in & replace Bullough. I wonder if Bullough ever read it & realized he was dead coach walking. Bullough said “It just took the sails out of my wind” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 On 2/9/2019 at 6:53 PM, thenorthremembers said: I enjoyed it. Liked not having kick offs more than I thought I would and the speed of the game has been better than expected. I'll tune in tomorrow but too late on the east coast to watch the rest of it. Meh. To me, the kickoff is one of the most exciting plays in the game of football. The opening kickoff especially, as the fans go nuts (especially for college) in anticipation. Maybe it’s because of not being familiar with most of the players, but I got bored with the game after awhile but kept it on. Then paid closer attention as San Diego tried to make a comeback at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 5 hours ago, LittleJoeCartwright said: Meh. To me, the kickoff is one of the most exciting plays in the game of football. The opening kickoff especially, as the fans go nuts (especially for college) in anticipation. Maybe it’s because of not being familiar with most of the players, but I got bored with the game after awhile but kept it on. Then paid closer attention as San Diego tried to make a comeback at the end. Would the fans not go nuts with anticipation for the opening play? I think it’s far more interesting to have an opening pass or run than it is to have the opening play be a kickoff. Half the time, literally half the time, you get the kickoff going into the end zone and then a commercial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 6 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said: Actually, it makes no sense to have games in February there. The only team even remotely north is in Utah. The league is not designed to be a major league. The cities you mention don't want minor league teams playing in the dead of winter. The AAF only has 2 teams in NFL cities for a good reason-they're trying to play in places without pro football. Putting teams in NFL cities is what will kill the new XFL. The only XFL city without an NFL team is St. Louis. I don’t agree. The most important sports market in the us in the north east and they have no teams there. They exist to make money. You are going to want to put teams in a place where you have the highest chance of attendance and interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 9 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: Someone tweeted that they look like the refs are wearing sports bras Its called a Bro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted February 11, 2019 Author Share Posted February 11, 2019 (edited) One of the angles of the AAF is having college terratories. So the Birmingham team has lots of Bama and Auburn players. Orlando has lots of Gators and Seminoles. That along with being in warmer climates in the dead of winter. That's why they aren't in NY and Chicago. Edited February 11, 2019 by PromoTheRobot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted February 11, 2019 Author Share Posted February 11, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, LeGOATski said: Hotshots game was fun. The kids enjoyed it, too. 70K seat stadium was maybe 1/3 full. The crowd got into it, though. When they score, they play the Shots! song by LMFAO. Is it just a coincidence all the home teams won? Edited February 11, 2019 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 17 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: One of the angles of the AAF is having college terratories. So the Birmingham team has lots of Bama and Auburn players. Orlando has lots of Gators and Seminoles. That along with being in warmer climates in the dead of winter. That's why they aren't in NY and Chicago. It is cool to see that Birmingham is playing at Legion Field. I think that The Iron has 10 players from Alabama. At least a couple of them rarely got a chance to play in Tuscaloosa. One that I know of was a udfa who got injured. I am really glad to see them get another chance to compete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 8 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said: Actually, it makes no sense to have games in February there. The only team even remotely north is in Utah. The league is not designed to be a major league. The cities you mention don't want minor league teams playing in the dead of winter. The AAF only has 2 teams in NFL cities for a good reason-they're trying to play in places without pro football. Putting teams in NFL cities is what will kill the new XFL. The only XFL city without an NFL team is St. Louis. The above makes perfect sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Best part of anything I've read about the AAF is that Hackenburg was letting F-bombs fly despite being miked up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said: Is it just a coincidence all the home teams won? I can't imagine "home field advantage" plays any factor here. Some players have local ties. All the home teams were favored to win prior to the games. Birmingham was the least favored to win the championship, but they dominated the first game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 18 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Who is this Perez kid? Looks decent. All these WRs must be former Bills, cant make a catch. What are they paying these guys? He was my Day 3 sleeper choice from last year's draft; really cool background on him. He didn't even play football in high school; he was a high school bowler (and sounds like he was good enough to contemplate a professional bowling career). He had always liked football though and looked up "How to be a Quarterback" on YouTube and started trying some of the lessons out in person. Ended up having a connection to Akili Smith and Akili let him join him for some training sessions. He eventually asked his junior college coach if he could join the team as a QB and was named the 9th string QB. Through a crazy series of injuries and him just ascending a bit, he eventually got a chance to play, ended up transferring to a Division 2 school, won the Division 2 championship, won the Division 2 equivalent of the Heisman, and here we are. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PromoTheRobot Posted February 11, 2019 Author Share Posted February 11, 2019 Just now, YoloinOhio said: Hack's gonna hack. 1 hour ago, LeGOATski said: I can't imagine "home field advantage" plays any factor here. Some players have local ties. All the home teams were favored to win prior to the games. Birmingham was the least favored to win the championship, but they dominated the first game. I was just trying to be playfully conspiratorial, with tongue firmly in cheek. But what better way to make those ticket buying fans happy than with a season opening win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 On 2/9/2019 at 12:07 PM, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I completely disagree. I think kickoffs are a huge part of football and they need to stay in the nfl 57% of NFL kickoffs are touchbacks anyway. Add that with the fair catch, it's just a boring play that's a waste of time. This league gets right to the action and plays it off as if it was just a touchback. I personally enjoyed the hell out of the game. 3 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: One of the angles of the AAF is having college terratories. So the Birmingham team has lots of Bama and Auburn players. Orlando has lots of Gators and Seminoles. That along with being in warmer climates in the dead of winter. That's why they aren't in NY and Chicago. This is actually what got me into the league. I have season tickets for UH, so four players, three of which had an enormous impact on the game, all play for San Antonio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 2 hours ago, eball said: Best part of anything I've read about the AAF is that Hackenburg was letting F-bombs fly despite being miked up. ..definitely the ONLY thing he can let fly.........sure as hell isn't footballs.............. 10-of-23 passes for 87 yards, no touchdowns, and one interception 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Until Saturday, I did not know the league existed. I was very skeptical but after watching the games and reading how they put it together, I think it has a real shot. It will never be quality football but with some time it could be an entertaining and serve as "minor league" football with players to keep an eye on. Biggest takeaway: The defenses appear to be two or three games ahead of the offense, which makes sense, especially since offensive linemen are hard to find and skill positions will have a major flaw or two (speed, size, ability to catch, run routes, arm strength, accuracy, etc). Even Trent Richardson looked really good but then on a few plays you're reminded why he's not in the NFL. Last, I like rule changes; especially the rules to speed up the game, the "kickoff" and transparent video replay. The mandatory two-point conversion makes sense and even the modified "on-sides" rule could be intriguing, or at the very least, more successful than today's NFL on-sides success rate. (When was the last time you've seen a successful kick?). Only downside to the quicker game is the offense seem to get gassed as the game went on but certainly with a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, Max Fischer said: Until Saturday, I did not know the league existed. I was very skeptical but after watching the games and reading how they put it together, I think it has a real shot. It will never be quality football but with some time it could be an entertaining and serve as "minor league" football with players to keep an eye on. Biggest takeaway: The defenses appear to be two or three games ahead of the offense, which makes sense, especially since offensive linemen are hard to find and skill positions will have a major flaw or two (speed, size, ability to catch, run routes, arm strength, accuracy, etc). Even Trent Richardson looked really good but then on a few plays you're reminded why he's not in the NFL. Last, I like rule changes; especially the rules to speed up the game, the "kickoff" and transparent video replay. The mandatory two-point conversion makes sense and even the modified "on-sides" rule could be intriguing, or at the very least, more successful than today's NFL on-sides success rate. (When was the last time you've seen a successful kick?). Only downside to the quicker game is the offense seem to get gassed as the game went on but certainly with a try. Conditioning and chemistry are an issue, for now, since they've only had ~30 days together. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Whether or not this league sticks around for the long haul (and I absolutely hope it does, because I want more football and the NFL needs a developmental league), I expect the NFL to steal the best ideas the AAF has, just as they did to the XFL. I think the NFL, in time, will end up implementing the transparent replay official, the elimination of the kickoff, more players being mic'd up, and a lot of the chip tracking technology. I really hope this league succeeds. It's got a real shot. It just needs some star power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Logic said: Whether or not this league sticks around for the long haul (and I absolutely hope it does, because I want more football and the NFL needs a developmental league), I expect the NFL to steal the best ideas the AAF has, just as they did to the XFL. I think the NFL, in time, will end up implementing the transparent replay official, the elimination of the kickoff, more players being mic'd up, and a lot of the chip tracking technology. I really hope this league succeeds. It's got a real shot. It just needs some star power. One big difference that the NFL won't (re)adopt is letting the players hit the snot out of each other. Many hits in yesterday's game would have been 15-yard penalties in the NFL. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Gugny said: One big difference that the NFL won't (re)adopt is letting the players hit the snot out of each other. Many hits in yesterday's game would have been 15-yard penalties in the NFL. Funnily enough, I think that's one of the AAF's early drawing powers: Hard hits. There are A LOT of football fans who miss seeing hits like that, for better or worse. I agree that the NFL won't go backwards on that one, but it may be what helps the AAF stick around. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 9 minutes ago, Logic said: Funnily enough, I think that's one of the AAF's early drawing powers: Hard hits. There are A LOT of football fans who miss seeing hits like that, for better or worse. I agree that the NFL won't go backwards on that one, but it may be what helps the AAF stick around. I think the XFL is gonna be doing this. The "extreme" part last time was a gimmick, but I see them catering to the fans who think the NFL has become too soft. But yeah, the hit on the San Diego QB was unreal. I loved it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 I've seen bits and pieces of this league so far and like a lot of what I've seen. There are some things I would change if I were Charlie Ebersol: First of all, as I said earlier, have players whose rights are owned by NFL teams and have the NFL team emblem on the back of their helmet to make them easily identifiable, just to give us extra incentive to watch. In between drives (when not showing an ad) show quick 90 second 'get to know' segments of the players, maybe ones with interesting stories or charismatic personalities. One of the big problems new leagues like this have is that people don't know the players, they're just faceless guys in a new uniform, but when you get to know the players a bit you form more of a connection and take more of an interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Watching this AAF league should be a good reminder of why they protect the QBs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 I like the mandatory 2 point conversion, but if the NFL gets rid of kicked extra points I hope they change the 2 point conversion to the 1 point conversion. I just prefer 7-0 , 7-7 type scores, call me old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Seems odd that there will suddenly be 2 spring leagues next year They should have worked together and put all the resources into doing 1 well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted February 11, 2019 Author Share Posted February 11, 2019 17 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: It's nice to have dreams, but they should concentrate on making 8 teams work long term first. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 2 hours ago, The Real Buffalo Joe said: I think the XFL is gonna be doing this. The "extreme" part last time was a gimmick, but I see them catering to the fans who think the NFL has become too soft. But yeah, the hit on the San Diego QB was unreal. I loved it though. I agree, there's definitely a place for that 'old school' approach. The XFL had some nice ideas last time but ruined them with crap play and all the stupid wrestling style antics. The ideas of playing only outdoors, on real grass, with real hits, is something that appeals to someone of my age group. But of course that's not enough. You still have to take the product seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicharito Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 9 hours ago, Not at the table Karlos said: Its called a Bro It’s a MANZZIERE.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 1 hour ago, RobbRiddick said: I agree, there's definitely a place for that 'old school' approach. The XFL had some nice ideas last time but ruined them with crap play and all the stupid wrestling style antics. The ideas of playing only outdoors, on real grass, with real hits, is something that appeals to someone of my age group. But of course that's not enough. You still have to take the product seriously. The outdoor, real grass thing doesn't bother me in football so much as it does in baseball. There's a much more obvious effect in baseball from artificial turf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 I watched parts of both games and liked it. The hit on SD QB that sent his "head" rolling across the field looked like legal hit and there was no flag. NFL would have been from every official. The replay official being there was already better than Al Riveron. Last, a split screen commercial is fine by me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 ...so Hackenberg will be the first cut and sign with XFL.......guy is gonna need more options........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 10 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I don’t agree. The most important sports market in the us in the north east and they have no teams there. They exist to make money. You are going to want to put teams in a place where you have the highest chance of attendance and interest. I think you are reading the wrong tea leaves. The AAF wants to be in football crazy places without NFL teams. They want to be the only game in town. Orlando loves football of any kind and if the team is good it will have a loyal following soon. I would expect the same of San Antonio also. The Apollos are now Orlandos pro team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Buffalo Timmy said: I think you are reading the wrong tea leaves. The AAF wants to be in football crazy places without NFL teams. They want to be the only game in town. Orlando loves football of any kind and if the team is good it will have a loyal following soon. I would expect the same of San Antonio also. The Apollos are now Orlandos pro team. ...would be economic suicide for them to attempt to go heads up in an NFL market............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Agreed 1 hour ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...would be economic suicide for them to attempt to go heads up in an NFL market............. Agreed- i think even trying to draft off of NFL teams- like the XFL appears to be- is not the best way to make it work. Make your own mark in a new market Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: Agreed Agreed- i think even trying to draft off of NFL teams- like the XFL appears to be- is not the best way to make it work. Make your own mark in a new market huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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