BillyWhiteShows Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 (edited) Take this for what you will....JP has been an offensive intern at Clemson the past two years under Dabo. He talked about it with John Murphy and famously said something like “I’ve been winning more these past two years than I have my entire life!” Apparently he interviewed for a position with Kliff Kingsbury in Arizona as reported by the Rap Sheet. There are a few similarities physically between JP and Rosen. It makes you wonder if he can help coach up The Rosen One. My guess is that he’s more of a Quality Control coach given his lack of experience. https://irishfb.com/2019/01/25/j-p-losman-could-be-coming-back/ Edited January 25, 2019 by BillyWhiteShows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 ...he'd be an excellent choice to teach "happy feet"....... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 JP story is interesting.....particularily since JP failed as a pro Qb becasue he didn't have the "head" for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 1 minute ago, bigK14094 said: JP story is interesting.....particularily since JP failed as a pro Qb becasue he didn't have the "head" for it. ....yet good 'ol Jaws lauded him for being "so smart with the football" (I'd have to find that illustrious quote)....go figure............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Good for JP. Glad to see he's doing well. 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Just because JP Losman wasn't a good NFL quarterback doesn't mean he can't be a good coach. Only a select few on the entire planet are good enough to succeed in the pros. 3 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YodaMan79 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 6 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....yet good 'ol Jaws lauded him for being "so smart with the football" (I'd have to find that illustrious quote)....go figure............... I also remembering him lauding Kaepernick as potentially becoming one of the "all time greats". I like Jaws, but he sells the drama and hyperbole a little too much at times. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, mjt328 said: Just because JP Losman wasn't a good NFL quarterback doesn't mean he can't be a good coach. Only a select few on the entire planet are good enough to succeed in the pros. ....perfect example...Jordan Palmer.....a meh pro career yet a highly sought after TEACHER today.....could be JP's niche..... 1 minute ago, YodaMan79 said: I also remembering him lauding Kaepernick as potentially becoming one of the "all time greats". I like Jaws, but he sells the drama and hyperbole a little too much at times. ...he's a prize......ruined his penny loafers drooling all over Spent Trent Edwards as the "real deal" for Bflo...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, bigK14094 said: JP story is interesting.....particularily since JP failed as a pro Qb becasue he didn't have the "head" for it. EJ was another one... all the tools, passed the eye-test, but could not grasp a playbook or read defenses. I was hoping he would pull it off early on, but eventually heard why his development was stuck in Neutral. Which brings me to another unsung part of Allen's game... his pocket presence. Knowing when (often) protection was breaking down and avoiding or escaping the pressure. Seems many of our failed attempts at filling the QB role were guys that did not have that - stood somewhat immobile in the pocket till they were sacked over and over. Tyrod did not have that issue, but could only take the team so far. Edited January 25, 2019 by WideNine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st&ten Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 30 minutes ago, bigK14094 said: JP story is interesting.....particularily since JP failed as a pro Qb becasue he didn't have the "head" for it. That might be true but I also remember how bad he was on short & medium passes. Threw a beautiful deep ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Maybe he can teach Rosen the finer points of hydration... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 those who can't do, teach... 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 (edited) 40 minutes ago, bigK14094 said: JP story is interesting.....particularily since JP failed as a pro Qb becasue he didn't have the "head" for it. No he failed in the NFL. IIRC he won a Championship in a flash in the pan league with Jim Fossil as his HC Edited January 25, 2019 by formerlyofCtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, row_33 said: those who can't do, teach... ...perhaps another Professor Irwin Corey in the making?...stay tuned............ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 11 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...perhaps another Professor Irwin Corey in the making?...stay tuned............ I'm sure JP has a million words to tell the press, a very lively young man oozing with self-confidence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cage Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 41 minutes ago, mjt328 said: Just because JP Losman wasn't a good NFL quarterback doesn't mean he can't be a good coach. Only a select few on the entire planet are good enough to succeed in the pros. Exactly,... Jordan Palmer didn't exactly have an illustrious NFL career Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 32 minutes ago, WideNine said: EJ was another one... all the tools, passed the eye-test, but could not grasp a playbook or read defenses. I was hoping he would pull it off early on, but eventually heard why his development was stuck in Neutral. Which brings me to another unsung part of Allen's game... his pocket presence. Knowing when (often) protection was breaking down and avoiding or escaping the pressure. Seems many of our failed attempts at filling the QB role were guys that did not have that - stood somewhat immobile in the pocket till they were sacked over and over. Tyrod did not have that issue, but could only take the team so far. JP was eerily similar to Rob Johnson in that regard. Never felt pressure, got sacked a million times, and ultimately couldn't get it done despite talent. Guys like that can make the best offensive line look like trash. Have no idea what kind of coach he is, but he was the furthest thing from a cerebral QB one could imagine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 This got me thinking....i want to see an all former bills QB coaching staff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 55 minutes ago, WideNine said: EJ was another one... all the tools, passed the eye-test, but could not grasp a playbook or read defenses. I was hoping he would pull it off early on, but eventually heard why his development was stuck in Neutral. Which brings me to another unsung part of Allen's game... his pocket presence. Knowing when (often) protection was breaking down and avoiding or escaping the pressure. Seems many of our failed attempts at filling the QB role were guys that did not have that - stood somewhat immobile in the pocket till they were sacked over and over. Tyrod did not have that issue, but could only take the team so far. EJ also couldn't throw accurately, even on short tosses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 13 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said: This got me thinking....i want to see an all former bills QB coaching staff ...perhaps Gary Marangi as QB Coach??....just askin'........... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Rejuvenate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Formerly Allan in MD said: EJ also couldn't throw accurately, even on short tosses. EJ had the yips. There's no other explanation for some of the throws that man made. From my vantage point, his major flaw as a passer was overthinking. I doubt EJ would have ever panned out, but a harda** like Marrone was a match made in hell. Edited January 25, 2019 by LSHMEAB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFlutie Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 1 hour ago, cage said: Exactly,... Jordan Palmer didn't exactly have an illustrious NFL career Hmmmm.... JP??? Jordan Palmer??? Connect the dots. Dude's gonna be just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 Blah, blah, blah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyWhiteShows Posted January 26, 2019 Author Share Posted January 26, 2019 20 minutes ago, BuffAlone said: Blah, blah, blah Thanks for adding so positively to this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 Lol. Sorry bud. It just seems like you're reaching for Bills related material. I'll say this, J.P. sucked in the league. I see this as a non-issue moving forward. He wasn't good Then, and has not enough experience to be productive as a coach. Just my humble opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
315Mafia Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 i doubt it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 (edited) This site really needs to have much better options for embedding gifs in it...giphy cant embed from a url due to its format apparently. https://giphy.com/gifs/cant-23BST5FQOc8k8 Edited January 26, 2019 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, matter2003 said: This site really needs to have much better options for embedding gifs in it...giphy cant embed from a url due to its format apparently. https://giphy.com/gifs/cant-23BST5FQOc8k8 You mean like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 I hope he can at least help clean up the state of Arizona. I kid, because that was actually a cool thing to do in Buffalo, even if I wonder about the motivation. Hope he’s really a cool guy and does well, but not SO well we regret our “Josh choice”. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 3 hours ago, Formerly Allan in MD said: EJ also couldn't throw accurately, even on short tosses. There was that too:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nextmanup said: You mean like this? How did you get it to work? I tried the insert other media from URL option and it won't let me do it... 1 hour ago, Augie said: I hope he can at least help clean up the state of Arizona. I kid, because that was actually a cool thing to do in Buffalo, even if I wonder about the motivation. Hope he’s really a cool guy and does well, but not SO well we regret our “Josh choice”. He can help clean up my driveway tomorrow morning...can't see across the street right now it's snowing so hard... Edited January 26, 2019 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, LSHMEAB said: EJ had the yips. There's no other explanation for some of the throws that man made. From my vantage point, his major flaw as a passer was overthinking. I doubt EJ would have ever panned out, but a harda** like Marrone was a match made in hell. EJ DID have a better rookie campaign. More Tds. Less picks. Higher comp %. Edited January 26, 2019 by reddogblitz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 10 hours ago, BillyWhiteShows said: Take this for what you will....JP has been an offensive intern at Clemson the past two years under Dabo. He talked about it with John Murphy and famously said something like “I’ve been winning more these past two years than I have my entire life!” Apparently he interviewed for a position with Kliff Kingsbury in Arizona as reported by the Rap Sheet. There are a few similarities physically between JP and Rosen. It makes you wonder if he can help coach up The Rosen One. My guess is that he’s more of a Quality Control coach given his lack of experience. https://irishfb.com/2019/01/25/j-p-losman-could-be-coming-back/ When has lack of experience mattered much lately? The HC of that same team got hired after flaming out at his Alma Matter! People in this town LOVE Kingsbury & willing to give him a pass on pretty much everything...but the last two seasons made it more & more difficult to accept when it was obvious Tech was getting worse the longer Kingsbury stayed I still wish him the best, but his lack of experience already hurt him once, and it's not likely to get easier in the big leagues. JP may as well be his OC at this point. He's just as deserving as anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 5 hours ago, matter2003 said: How did you get it to work? I tried the insert other media from URL option and it won't let me do it... He can help clean up my driveway tomorrow morning...can't see across the street right now it's snowing so hard... It doesn’t work because you didn’t copy the actual URL for the gif. The link you provided isn’t a link to the image it’s a link to the page where that image is. The actual link for an image should end in .gif, if you are trying to insert a GIF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 (edited) 15 hours ago, mjt328 said: Just because JP Losman wasn't a good NFL quarterback doesn't mean he can't be a good coach. Only a select few on the entire planet are good enough to succeed in the pros. Yup. And the way the Bills handled him sure didn't help him develop. They found the scheme he was pretty good in ... and changed it totally in the offseason to one he was pretty bad in. And carefully kept him behind an OL for his time here that was even worse than the current one. Terrific LT and nobody else. LG to RT in those days made the last two years look like Pro Bowlers. Remember Mike Gandy, Melvin Fowler, Duke Preston, Chris Villarrial in his last year in the league and Terrance Pennington? Or Tutan Reyes? Or Mike Schneck? Those guys were blocking for JP the year he looked pretty decent. Edited January 26, 2019 by Thurman#1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 14 hours ago, mjt328 said: Just because JP Losman wasn't a good NFL quarterback doesn't mean he can't be a good coach. Only a select few on the entire planet are good enough to succeed in the pros. Remember the old line “those that can’t play; coach”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4th&long Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 Rejuvenate? The kid just finished his rookie year! And good for jp. Hopefully he gets the job and does well. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 14 hours ago, bigK14094 said: JP story is interesting.....particularily since JP failed as a pro Qb becasue he didn't have the "head" for it. Did they not say he could perform well in the QB room but panicked on the field? That said I believe he could coach better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 15 hours ago, BillyWhiteShows said: Take this for what you will....JP has been an offensive intern at Clemson the past two years under Dabo. He talked about it with John Murphy and famously said something like “I’ve been winning more these past two years than I have my entire life!” Apparently he interviewed for a position with Kliff Kingsbury in Arizona as reported by the Rap Sheet. There are a few similarities physically between JP and Rosen. It makes you wonder if he can help coach up The Rosen One. My guess is that he’s more of a Quality Control coach given his lack of experience. https://irishfb.com/2019/01/25/j-p-losman-could-be-coming-back/ "Rejuvanate" seems an inapt term to refer to a second-year player. Giving Rosen a decent OL and receiving corps would seem more helpful. I wish JP well, but physical similarities don't seem like a great basis for proposing someone as an especial help. QC Assistant would probably be a good position for him. 2 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: Yup. And the way the Bills handled him sure didn't help him develop. They found the scheme he was pretty good in ... and changed it totally in the offseason to one he was pretty bad in. And carefully kept him behind an OL for his time here that was even worse than the current one. Terrific LT and nobody else. LG to RT in those days made the last two years look like Pro Bowlers. I will never understand why people question the concept that young QB can be "ruined". Everyone accepts that there's a huge difference between the college and the pro game. It just seems self-evident that for a young QB, being asked to play before he fully understands the concepts, behind an OL that can't give him time, and with targets who can't release and get open won't help him learn what works in the NFL - because when nothing works, it's hard to distinguish what should have worked "if", and hard to have the right kind of confidence. Add in a poor offensive scheme and bad coaching and there you go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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