row_33 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: "The Commissioner's powers under this Section 2 include ... the reversal of a game's result or the rescheduling of a game, either from the beginning or from the point at which the extraordinary act occurred," Rule 17, Section 2, Article 3 of the rule book states." nothing extraordinary half the board whines about the refs every single play on a GDT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 1 hour ago, apuszczalowski said: I just saw this morning a Saints player saying that there is some rule that would allow Goodell the power to overturn game results. Fans need to get over it, you got screwed, nothing will be done to change it. Trust fans of Buffalo teams, nothing will be done. They wont come back and replay the end of the game, and they wont come back and just award you the win in a game you weren't already in the lead of at the time of the call. They're considering making PI calls reviewable: http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25818681/nfl-again-discuss-reviewing-pass-interference-calls I work for a company that's basically run by attorneys. They have no idea what we do or sell, but what they do know is liability, and if they decide that there needs to be a change in the business to mitigate potential liability, it happens fast. This is no different. The last thing the NFL wants is a trial where through discovery all the internal communications regarding the bad call become public, ESPECIALLY if there's an internal email from someone important admitting it was a terrible, game outcome effecting call. Chances are that this case doesn't go anywhere, but you never know, especially if it's a jury trial, which the NFL would be insane to agree to, but might not be given a choice if the judge is a closet saints fan. stranger things have happened. PI should be reviewable. In fact, all calls and all plays should be reviewable, and it's on the NFL to figure out how to do that without making a mess of the game. You all know that with 99%+ of plays, the first post-play replay on TV you can see if the penalty (or non-call) was legit, there's no reason to have to take more than 20 seconds with crews dedicated to the task. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 sorry to the Dallas Cowboys for the PI flag on Benny Barnes, maybe they should reverse that Steelers SB championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 22, 2019 Author Share Posted January 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, dorquemada said: They're considering making PI calls reviewable: http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25818681/nfl-again-discuss-reviewing-pass-interference-calls I work for a company that's basically run by attorneys. They have no idea what we do or sell, but what they do know is liability, and if they decide that there needs to be a change in the business to mitigate potential liability, it happens fast. This is no different. The last thing the NFL wants is a trial where through discovery all the internal communications regarding the bad call become public, ESPECIALLY if there's an internal email from someone important admitting it was a terrible, game outcome effecting call. Chances are that this case doesn't go anywhere, but you never know, especially if it's a jury trial, which the NFL would be insane to agree to, but might not be given a choice if the judge is a closet saints fan. stranger things have happened. PI should be reviewable. In fact, all calls and all plays should be reviewable, and it's on the NFL to figure out how to do that without making a mess of the game. You all know that with 99%+ of plays, the first post-play replay on TV you can see if the penalty (or non-call) was legit, there's no reason to have to take more than 20 seconds with crews dedicated to the task. Sean Payton is on the competition committee so I think he will be busy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/1087763881865498634?s=21 Damages in Saints ticket holder lawsuit against the Roger Goodell & the NFL include: Mental anguish & emotional trauma Loss of faith in the NFL Loss of enjoyment of life Loss of entertainment Distrust of the game So, in essence, he's suing the league because the outcome of Sunday's game turned everybody into Bills fans? Can I get grandfathered in on that action? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Just now, YoloinOhio said: Sean Payton is on the competition committee so I think he will be busy Yeah and so was Don Shula when the Bills were getting jobbed over and over again in the 70s and 80s. The point is that the technology now exists to allow for rapid review of each play, or minimally each play where everyone in the stands know somebody get screwed, flag or no flag. Like I said above, every halfwit watching on their TV at home can see clearly lots of instances in every single game where refs either throw a flag when they shouldn't, or don't when they should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: "The Commissioner's powers under this Section 2 include ... the reversal of a game's result or the rescheduling of a game, either from the beginning or from the point at which the extraordinary act occurred," Rule 17, Section 2, Article 3 of the rule book states." So you're saying.....there's a chance? 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/1087763881865498634?s=21 Damages in Saints ticket holder lawsuit against the Roger Goodell & the NFL include: Mental anguish & emotional trauma Loss of faith in the NFL Loss of enjoyment of life Loss of entertainment Distrust of the game This is rich! Never mind what's gone on with New England the last two decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 i get the anger. give it a week or two an people will move on. it probably will cause the nfl to put new policies in place so this doesn't happen again, so there's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 1 minute ago, teef said: i get the anger. give it a week or two an people will move on. it probably will cause the nfl to put new policies in place so this doesn't happen again, so there's that. Can you imagine if this happens in the Super Bowl, especially if it's a bad call or non call, and it benefits the pats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, dorquemada said: Can you imagine if this happens in the Super Bowl, especially if it's a bad call or non call, and it benefits the pats? it would definitely take on an entirely new form. not to mention with the boom in sports gambling, this stuff has to be watched closely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 49 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I anticipate the next step is the Saints going full UCF and claiming they are the real NFC Champs they might show up in uniform in Atlanta and need to be forcibly removed from the field I would love that. Then after the Saints walk into the stadium and they are all assembled..........BOOM!!!!! Who's that coming from the other side of the stadium.....It's the Kansas City Chiefs!!!!! Then the NFL would really be the WWE. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Better call Saul........ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 It's amazing that such blatant negligence by pro sport officials gets brushed off. The head ref should be suspended. Fines all around. Actual consequences. No more of these "just let em play" scenarios. Call the game consistently and fairly throughout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Augie said: Do you actually expect this to happen? It doesn't matter what I think. It's possible, that's all. 1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said: They need to quit whining and get over it. That call did not cost them the game. It was absolutely PI and the ref's blew it but it didn't cost them the game. It wasn't the last play of the game. It was a factor but it did not directly cost them the game. It resulted in a FG and a 3 point lead with 1:40 left. They couldn't stop the Rams from tying the game, it went to OT, they won the coin toss, and Brees showed poor judgment and tossed a pick in OT. The Rams executed a short drive and a long FG won it in OT. Game over.. The call did cost them the game. They could have run the clock down to seconds, kicked a FG and then pooched the kickoff. Game over. 37 minutes ago, row_33 said: nothing extraordinary half the board whines about the refs every single play on a GDT True--and you know I'm with you there, like with the insane whining over the "OT rules". But this was an incredible, almost unprecedented flagrant, violent PI not called where the offender clearly has stated his intent after the fact. That seems like an extraordinary circumstance. 22 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: So you're saying.....there's a chance? This is rich! Never mind what's gone on with New England the last two decades. This has been done before....for that very reason; https://consumerist.com/2010/05/21/jets-fan-sues-patriots-for-cheating-but-loses/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mark80 said: This country really needs to reform the laws regarding filing of frivolous lawsuits. Until the attorney's are punished for it (financially most likely), crap like this will continue to happen. Actually depending on the jurisdiction involved, there already is such a mechanism on the books. Here in Georgia for example, it's codified in OCGA section 9-15-14 (enjoy the legalese while skimming through it): https://law.justia.com/codes/georgia/2010/title-9/chapter-15/9-15-14/ (a) In any civil action in any court of record of this state, reasonable and necessary attorney's fees and expenses of litigation shall be awarded to any party against whom another party has asserted a claim, defense, or other position with respect to which there existed such a complete absence of any justiciable issue of law or fact that it could not be reasonably believed that a court would accept the asserted claim, defense, or other position. Attorney's fees and expenses so awarded shall be assessed against the party asserting such claim, defense, or other position, or against that party's attorney, or against both in such manner as is just. Edited January 22, 2019 by NoHuddleKelly12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 22 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: True--and you know I'm with you there, like with the insane whining over the "OT rules". But this was an incredible, almost unprecedented flagrant, violent PI not called where the offender clearly has stated his intent after the fact. That seems like an extraordinary circumstance. I would have saved myself a lot of agony by follow my spider-senses and not watching that game, I was totally indifferent except for good play, which was delivered. As for bad calls, that was certainly one. All you can do is shrug on move on, they aren't replaying the game. It is added to a pile of another dozen I can name off-hand through the years, all for games I was indifferent as to who won the game.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: It doesn't matter what I think. It's possible, that's all. The call did cost them the game. They could have run the clock down to seconds, kicked a FG and then pooched the kickoff. Game over. True--and you know I'm with you there, like with the insane whining over the "OT rules". But this was an incredible, almost unprecedented flagrant, violent PI not called where the offender clearly has stated his intent after the fact. That seems like an extraordinary circumstance. This has been done before....for that very reason; https://consumerist.com/2010/05/21/jets-fan-sues-patriots-for-cheating-but-loses/ If they wanted to run clock they could have called running plays and forced the Rams to use their two remaining time outs and run the clock under 1 minute. Their defense could have stopped the Rams in regulation. They didn't. Their HOF QB should not have made a terrible decision to throw up that interception in OT. But he did. Cost them the game? OK, people can think it if they want. I think its an excuse we hear from losers every Monday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: oh for christ sakes, what is this ***** world coming to? the SJW's are not gonna be happy until they drag everyone down to their level. Edited January 22, 2019 by Foxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 (edited) Anything to distract from the fact that the Saints had every chance in the world to win the game after the blown PI call and sh** the bed. I'm quite sure those involved in this lawsuit cognitively realize it doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning; it's just something they'll hold on to for as long as possible to pretend like the result doesn't exist. At the end of the day, the Rams are playing the Patriots in the Superbowl. All the crying in the world won't change a damn thing. They want this narrative to linger because it takes the sting out of losing the game. I get it. It's just a waste of everyone's time. Edited January 22, 2019 by LSHMEAB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 10 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: Anything to distract from the fact that the Saints had every chance in the world to win the game after the blown PI call and sh** the bed. I'm quite sure those involved in this lawsuit cognitively realize it doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning; it's just something they'll hold on to for as long as possible to pretend like the result doesn't exist. At the end of the day, the Rams are playing the Patriots in the Superbowl. All the crying in the world won't change a damn thing. They want this narrative to linger as long as possible because it takes the sting out of losing the game. they are a legendarily hard luck franchise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Just now, row_33 said: they are a legendarily hard luck franchise True, but they have something the Bills don't so I'm not shedding any tears! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Wow, they should just do what we do in Buffalo.....put up a billboard advertising the obvious disgust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, row_33 said: they are a legendarily hard luck franchise That apparently 13+ seasons of having Brees + a Lombardi still can't undo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 16 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: If they wanted to run clock they could have called running plays and forced the Rams to use their two remaining time outs and run the clock under 1 minute. Their defense could have stopped the Rams in regulation. They didn't. Their HOF QB should not have made a terrible decision to throw up that interception in OT. But he did. Cost them the game? OK, people can think it if they want. I think its an excuse we hear from losers every Monday. Mentioning an INT in an OT that never should have happened is an odd way to make your argument. Also, running the clock to under a minute is not like leaving seconds on the clock for your opponent to go the length of the field to score. And finally, sure, the Saints should have scored more points earlier (so should the Rams, by that logic, so no missed call would have affected the outcome of the game). But at that specific point in the game, they had a clear and unobstructed path to a win in regulation had that simple call been made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 (edited) 52 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Actually depending on the jurisdiction involved, there already is such a mechanism on the books. Here in Georgia for example, it's codified in OCGA section 9-15-14 (enjoy the legalese while skimming through it): https://law.justia.com/codes/georgia/2010/title-9/chapter-15/9-15-14/ (a) In any civil action in any court of record of this state, reasonable and necessary attorney's fees and expenses of litigation shall be awarded to any party against whom another party has asserted a claim, defense, or other position with respect to which there existed such a complete absence of any justiciable issue of law or fact that it could not be reasonably believed that a court would accept the asserted claim, defense, or other position. Attorney's fees and expenses so awarded shall be assessed against the party asserting such claim, defense, or other position, or against that party's attorney, or against both in such manner as is just. Yeah, I know there are laws against it. But they need reforming. In the example you post, there are no punitive consequences, only actual damages. Attorney's should be fined, put on probation or even disbarred if they continuously file these suits. Typically, if there is a law in the state, it is very difficult to find an attorney has broken them and the consequences are light. Edited January 22, 2019 by Mark80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninChicago Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 I am still holding out hope that they will restart game 6 of the NHL Finals from 20 years ago. I will let you know how that goes... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 waiting for the day that stupid nonsense won't dominate every mainstream source of media Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 I'm surprised by the reactions in the thread. I'm all for it. The NFL clearly has preferences for which teams win games. Clearly the rules of the game are not applied evenly. Having LA vs Boston clearly was more marketable than NO vs KC. We had two remarkable close games that were both decided by some inexplicable calls. From the Hogan no catch to the roughing the passer to PI in the Saints game. If some lawyer wants to bring some attention onto this issue then I say go for it. There is a clear rule set that is not evenly applied. I'm tired of refs patting Brady on the but and high fiving him. I'm tired of seeing Jerry Hughes get mauled and them looking the other way. Why not sue and go on Sportcenter to talk about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty the Dustmop Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Hey if you lose a football game by a blown call dial all 8s thats right dial 888-8888 weve won millions in many law suits remember dont get screwed by the zebras just dial all 8s....operators standing by 24/7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/1087763881865498634?s=21 Damages in Saints ticket holder lawsuit against the Roger Goodell & the NFL include: Mental anguish & emotional trauma Loss of faith in the NFL Loss of enjoyment of life Loss of entertainment Distrust of the game I think we all deserve a little part of this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 10 minutes ago, RaoulDuke79 said: I think we all deserve a little part of this one. it hurts when my team sucks for 2 decades now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigdaddyinOrlando Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 3 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: "The Commissioner's powers under this Section 2 include ... the reversal of a game's result or the rescheduling of a game, either from the beginning or from the point at which the extraordinary act occurred," Rule 17, Section 2, Article 3 of the rule book states." Have a feeling this rule will somehow unceremoniously disappear from the rule book soon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Well Bills fans should be able to sue the Patriots for mental anguish and loss of enjoyment of life. We have a better case than Saints fans. 7 minutes ago, BigdaddyinOrlando said: Have a feeling this rule will somehow unceremoniously disappear from the rule book soon A call being missed by officials is not an extraordinary event. They're talking about like a meteor striking a player just as he is about to cross the goal line for the win. Stuff like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris66 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 I beleive someone tried this in new jersey. It was thrownout on the basis that nfl while being a sporting event is still considered entertainment. Since the entertainment was fulfilled I cant see this going anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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YoloinOhio Posted January 22, 2019 Author Share Posted January 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: God bless ya’ll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, mannc said: Maybe he could also represent Chiefs fans with regard to the the phantom roughing the passer call on Brady that kept a Pats drive alive in the fourth quarter. Nope. logical judge would take one look and toss that case. 2nd down and all. Maybe sarcasm? I don't know... Edited January 22, 2019 by CoudyBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 We should file one for having to sit through all those years of Jauron ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Not going to happen, but it illustrates the public image nightmare the league has brought upon itself with its acceptance in incompetent officiating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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