Chicken Boo Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 24 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Seems like a lateral move to me. Poor Bronco fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins90 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 19 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: That smells like a recipe for disaster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
707BillsFan Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 38 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I think he'd give leeway to Kubiak to pick and chose who he wants. They have a lengthy working relationship, so I don't think Elway would make him keep staff he wouldn't want around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 One wonders why Elway doesn't just coach the team. Bad look for a new HC to relinquish the power to choose his own assistants, don't you think? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Y. Orangeman Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 (edited) The funniest thing in all of this, which may have been mentioned previously, is that Kugler isn't even the OL coach; he coaches interior linemen. That being said, Dennison to the Broncos just makes too much sense, with Elway going into the season as QB2 in an open competition. Edited January 9, 2019 by N.Y. Orangeman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 (edited) Two things, Kugler isn't a Kubiak guy. He was hired in 2018. He may be an Elway guy. Also, during his time with us, with Broncos, Lions and at UTEP, he hasn't really ever done anything. I don't mind the hire, but I'm not sure that not getting him is a big deal. I just want whoever is going to come and work with Daboll to re-install a power run game. Second, Paradis is not a Kugler guy, he's an Elway guy who was on the practice squad until Gary Kubiak and Rick Dennison came to town. Edited January 9, 2019 by MrEpsYtown He did help develop Ryan Clady and Jason Peters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 If Kugler really wanted to come here all he would probably have to do is ask the new coach to let him go. He’s not going to be held hostage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 56 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: Two things, Kugler isn't a Kubiak guy. He was hired in 2018. He may be an Elway guy. Also, during his time with us, with Broncos, Lions and at UTEP, he hasn't really ever done anything. I don't mind the hire, but I'm not sure that not getting him is a big deal. I just want whoever is going to come and work with Daboll to re-install a power run game. Second, Paradis is not a Kugler guy, he's an Elway guy who was on the practice squad until Gary Kubiak and Rick Dennison came to town. There was an immediate difference in Denver with him there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 So he is going to Tampa. I thought he couldn't get out of his contract? Not a good image for McDermott and Beane. Could be rough getting a coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ittakestime said: So he is going to Tampa. I thought he couldn't get out of his contract? Not a good image for McDermott and Beane. Could be rough getting a coach. Um, that's a pretty massive leap in logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Um, that's a pretty massive leap in logic. When someone doesn't want to coach in his hometown and with the talent currently at the position, it could be rough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Title should read, "Sean Kugler, Broncos OL coach being block from interviews until any other team that's NOT Buffalo calls" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CA OC Bills Fan Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 On 1/7/2019 at 1:45 AM, davefan66 said: Offer him an additional title, can’t block a promotion. Not correct other than offering him head coach. All assistants are considered the same level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 8 minutes ago, Ittakestime said: When someone doesn't want to coach in his hometown and with the talent currently at the position, it could be rough. Maybe he didn't get an offer from Buffalo. Maybe he did and his family wanted to go someplace warm. Maybe he knows Bruce Arians better than McDermott. There are any number of valid reasons why a position coach might take one job over another. You're jumping to conclusions. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 On 1/6/2019 at 8:30 PM, BADOLBILZ said: Meh.........I kinda' like the GM holding the coaches.....we've been screwed by losing good assistants in HC transitions before and hard to tell how many of them the incoming would have liked to keep. I would assume that the new HC in Denver wouldn't hold Kugler if he wanted to come home. we tend to keep the bad ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 29 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Maybe he didn't get an offer from Buffalo. Maybe he did and his family wanted to go someplace warm. Maybe he knows Bruce Arians better than McDermott. There are any number of valid reasons why a position coach might take one job over another. You're jumping to conclusions. Yep he coached under Arians in Pittsburgh with Harold Goodwin. Makes a ton of sense. He had no connections to here besides being from the area and being fired from here once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 He gone.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cale Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 TB line talent >> Bills line talent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Ittakestime said: So he is going to Tampa. I thought he couldn't get out of his contract? Not a good image for McDermott and Beane. Could be rough getting a coach. Ahh, shades of Mike McCoy rough 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Wikipedia says Kugler is the guy who coached up Jason Peters and made him a star: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Kugler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 9 Isles Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 This happens every year with this team, second and third choice assistants. Oh well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddo Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 30 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Wikipedia says Kugler is the guy who coached up Jason Peters and made him a star: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Kugler. Except it was Mouse who did it. Iirc, Peters was somewhat pissed when Mouse was 'retired', and it may have been a contributing factor in his wanting away (apart from the mo' money thing). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 20 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Wonder who plan B is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: Wonder who plan B is? Wouldnt mind Bob Wylie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 25 minutes ago, The 9 Isles said: This happens every year with this team, second and third choice assistants. Oh well. I honestly believe more often than not it's because the family doesn't want to live in the "snow." Buffalo has milder winters than Minnesota, Green Bay, and Chicago, but the reputation precedes itself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Ray Brown 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Someone from Alabama's staff or Carolina or New England? Hope they get a good one. Very important for this team's success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Bob Wylie is available ...remember him? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 The only Bob Wylie I care about. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 1 hour ago, ndirish1978 said: Wonder who plan B is? I hate to say it, but I mostly interested in who plan C is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
707BillsFan Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 1 hour ago, ndirish1978 said: So Denver blocks the Bills from talking to Kugler until they hire a new head coach. Coach hired, within a couple hours Tampa hires Kugler for their OL? Was Buffalo sleeping? Wondering how this went down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 15 minutes ago, whatdrought said: The only Bob Wylie I care about. This guy has revamped his entire life since that death therapy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, thenorthremembers said: Ray Brown This. I mean a lot of people were hoping Kugler would come and bring Paradis...well Ray Brown is the guy who turned Daryl Williams into an all pro 2nd team player. He also got Andrew Norwell a ton of money. I like Brown and I want Williams to take over RT. Edited January 10, 2019 by MrEpsYtown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 6 minutes ago, 707BillsFan said: So Denver blocks the Bills from talking to Kugler until they hire a new head coach. Coach hired, within a couple hours Tampa hires Kugler for their OL? Was Buffalo sleeping? Wondering how this went down. Sounds like he was already linked to Arians 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Meanwhile bills are bottom feeders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 3 hours ago, Ittakestime said: So he is going to Tampa. I thought he couldn't get out of his contract? Not a good image for McDermott and Beane. Could be rough getting a coach. Maybe he was only blocked from interviewing with AFC teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 37 minutes ago, 707BillsFan said: So Denver blocks the Bills from talking to Kugler until they hire a new head coach. Coach hired, within a couple hours Tampa hires Kugler for their OL? Was Buffalo sleeping? Wondering how this went down. Probably a good chance that Kugler wanted to join Arians in TB; they worked together in Pittsburgh when Arians was OC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 10 minutes ago, IgotBILLStopay said: Maybe he was only blocked from interviewing with AFC teams I'm not sure Denver can do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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