Father Time is finally catching up with Brady

[Dr.Sack]

6 minutes ago, Augie said:

The avocado enemas will not help Brady next year. The arm dies slowly, like the rest of us. It’s just a fact. 

But the AFC East is so easy that all you need to do is rush for 275 yards per game & its 6-0 in the East, and find a way to win 4 of 10 to clinch the AFCE. 

 

It appears Darnold is legit. Maybe the Jets challenge NE in 2019, but certainly by 2020 it’s no longer the Pats division under Brady. 

[Augie]

2 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said:

But the AFC East is so easy that all you need to do is rush for 275 yards per game & its 6-0 in the East, and find a way to win 4 of 10 to clinch the AFCE. 

 

It appears Darnold is legit. Maybe the Jets challenge NE in 2019, but certainly by 2020 it’s no longer the Pats division under Brady. 

 

I’m a bit more hopeful, but the end is near. 

[Dr.Sack]

Just now, ScottLaw said:

Jets will be a lot better next year if they hire the right coach to replace Bowles.

 

They can easily flip the script next season with the way Darnold is playing. 

 

Bills can do the same same but I don't have much faith in McBeane to pull it off. 

McBeane is hindered by two things; a lack of willingness of free agents to play in “Siberia” and an offense that is so lacking in talent it will hinder playmakers from signing. The weather isn’t conducive to offensive prowess & having an inaccurate QB further hinders willingness to come to B’lo. My thinking is they build the lines by getting the best talent money can buy & draft a TE & WR to further bolster the weapons for Allen. 

[row_33]

35 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

Gotta hope for some magic from the jets and Houston to screw up thier bye. 

 

That would be nice 

29 minutes ago, matter2003 said:

Bill Parcells always believed most games weren't won they were lost...

 

He taught Belichick how to keep options open and change tactics as the game unfolded

 

can’t think of more than 3 other coaches who have done this the last 45 years in sports

 

 

Almost all the rest have a plan and hope it works 

Edited December 24, 2018 by row_33

[NoSaint]

6 hours ago, PatsFanNH said:

Possibly, it is also possible That Brady isn’t 100% right now.  Another possibility is his second favorite weapon is a shell of his former self in Gronk, and he basically has White and Edelman to throw to. 

 

That said the Pats ran for almost 300 yards today against one of the better run D in the league.. so we don’t need Brady throwing for 400 yards with that..

 

The assertion that in another year or so he shouldn’t be competing is pretty fair. He’d be 43 during the regular season 2 years from now 

[row_33]

1 minute ago, NoSaint said:

 

The assertion that in another year or so he shouldn’t be competing is pretty fair. He’d be 43 during the regular season 2 years from now 

 

Any QB could hand it off to crush the Bills like  today, Brady leaving won’t help Buffalo at this rate

 

 

[longtimebillsfan]

1 minute ago, row_33 said:

 

Any QB could hand it off to crush the Bills like  today, Brady leaving won’t help Buffalo at this rate

 

 

You are assuming our offense won't improve?

[row_33]

3 minutes ago, longtimebillsfan said:

You are assuming our offense won't improve?

 

All I have is what happened today and next week 

 

i can make up sugar plum fairy wishes for years down the road

 

[Dr.Sack]

57 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Need to overpay.

 

And they have the money to do it. They need to have an aggressive mentality this offseason. Any other philosophy would be unacceptable.

 

They can't afford to sit on their hands.

 

I’m not in the FO but history has proven we never get playmakers in their prime. Our best bet is to target OLinemen & DLinemen that can improve the results of games like today. 

[May Day 10]

Brady looks shakier than he ever has.  He may be hurt, but hurt is part of getting old and not getting hurt was part of bradys mystique.  At 40, injuries are chronic, dont heal, and compound.  Add all the extra rehab work to a guy who already seemingly had a foot out the door, and i dont know.  

[Ol Dirty B]

6 hours ago, LSHMEAB said:

I'm not seeing much out of Harrison Phillips either. Hopefully he gets stronger in the offseason, but he's low impact right now. Jordan Phillips ghosted this game as well. 

 

The defensive line MUST be addressed.

 

This is Brady's last hurrah. I hope he comes back to be entirely honest. Gronk too.

 

Watching Gronk attempt to run this season has been crazy. I'd love for them to comeback, I'm starting to get the feeling they won't and we will never get to see the Bills just beat up on them. 

 

I really really hope I'm wrong.

[Andy1]

It was strange watching him today. He looked like he was playing without his usual fire and emotion. Maybe he has realized that this is the last year for him.

[longtimebillsfan]

1 hour ago, row_33 said:

 

All I have is what happened today and next week 

 

i can make up sugar plum fairy wishes for years down the road

 

Cool.  Sounds like fun.

[formerlyofCtown]

8 hours ago, zow2 said:

Yup. Tom is just chucking the ball to empty turf rather than absorb a hit. He’s definitely in protect-his-body mode which I can’t totally blame him.  His ability to make plays under pressure has really diminished 

Hes done that for the last 10 years.  He gets away with a lot of intentional grounding.  I still remember the last game against him with Schwartz as our D cord.  His completion percentage was crap and they pulled him quick.  I felt there were many times in that first quarter he should have been flagged.  I would say hes done because a lot of his fanboy refs are retiring.

[formerlyofCtown]

8 hours ago, PatsFanNH said:

Lol as long as the games at home I like the Pats chances.. heck I even like our chances if we face KC in KC since their D is awful!

Also DVOA Had you ranked 2nd in passing D.. so your statement based on stats seems be false..

Granted this is an if.  

If Allen continues to improve over the offseason and we improve the Oline and get a good RB.  You guys are toast.  Even if Brady bounces back.

And then You can enjoy the next 10-18 years after that while your team gets smacked around by NYJs and Bills.

Trust me it sucks falling from such a lofty purch and NEs is a high one.

Edited December 24, 2018 by formerlyofCtown

[LABILLBACKER]

8 hours ago, mannc said:

It doesn’t matter.  Belichick is showing no signs of decline.  He can easily beat the Clapper even with Brian Hoyer.  

Bill made Sean look like a child. He ran the same jet sweep or D gap run and there was no one out there to tackle.  Brady didn't even need to throw one pass today to beat us. This was probably Sean McDermott's worst game as a coach.

[downunderbill]

9 hours ago, WhyteDwarf said:

HAHA, and Houston loses in the final seconds.

 

Brady is on his way to another SB, lol.

 

I don't think they are good enough to win two in a row against playoff teams.

1 hour ago, May Day 10 said:

Brady looks shakier than he ever has.  He may be hurt, but hurt is part of getting old and not getting hurt was part of bradys mystique.  At 40, injuries are chronic, dont heal, and compound.  Add all the extra rehab work to a guy who already seemingly had a foot out the door, and i dont know.  

 

The last play of last week's game showed that. He put his whole body in that throw, even ended up on the ground, and all that for a 30yd toss.

[PatsFanNH]

7 hours ago, formerlyofCtown said:

Granted this is an if.  

If Allen continues to improve over the offseason and we improve the Oline and get a good RB.  You guys are toast.  Even if Brady bounces back.

And then You can enjoy the next 10-18 years after that while your team gets smacked around by NYJs and Bills.

Trust me it sucks falling from such a lofty purch and NEs is a high one.

Lol I loved threw the patsy years when if they went .500 it felt like an accomplishment.  I also don’t think the Jets will win ANYTHING any time soon.  Thankfully they are run very very poorly.. 

 

I’ll cheer for my team even when they go 1-15. (And they will someday do that..) it’s a game, enjoy the good times and remember in the bad times it isn’t life or death but entertainment.

[fergie's ire]

16 hours ago, mannc said:

It doesn’t matter.  Belichick is showing no signs of decline.  He can easily beat the Clapper even with Brian Hoyer.  

Am I the only one who suspects that BB is retiring or leaving the Patriots either after this season or next?  I can't help wondering what he told McDaniels that made him turn down a head coaching job that he had already accepted.  My guess is that he said, "Hang around here another year or two, and you can be coaching the Patriots."

[Chris66]

8 minutes ago, fergie's ire said:

Am I the only one who suspects that BB is retiring or leaving the Patriots either after this season or next?  I can't help wondering what he told McDaniels that made him turn down a head coaching job that he had already accepted.  My guess is that he said, "Hang around here another year or two, and you can be coaching the Patriots."

McDaniels turned down the indy job because him in chris ballard were already butting heads over the strength and conditioning department.

BB already stated he is not ready to retire.

[mannc]

42 minutes ago, fergie's ire said:

Am I the only one who suspects that BB is retiring or leaving the Patriots either after this season or next?  I can't help wondering what he told McDaniels that made him turn down a head coaching job that he had already accepted.  My guess is that he said, "Hang around here another year or two, and you can be coaching the Patriots."

Belichick does not strike me as the kind of guy who will ever retire. Too competitive, and my sense is that he likes what he does too much.  Can’t see him sitting around an old folks home cheating at Bingo.  I think he also wants to prove to the world that he can win without Brady.

[SinceThe70s]

36 minutes ago, Chris66 said:

McDaniels turned down the indy job because him in chris ballard were already butting heads over the strength and conditioning department.

BB already stated he is not ready to retire.

 

This sounds highly unlikely. Do you also believe that a guy was nicknamed the Deflator due to his weight loss program?

[YoloinOhio]

9 hours ago, Andy1 said:

It was strange watching him today. He looked like he was playing without his usual fire and emotion. Maybe he has realized that this is the last year for him.

Totally agree. He looked miserable and like he was going through the motions. 

[Seventeen]

2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Totally agree. He looked miserable and like he was going through the motions. 

 

I don't see them winning this year with KC & NO or even LA. They might not get out of the 1st round against Houston or Baltimore.

 

Will be interesting to see what BB does if Brady/Gronk retire.

[LSHMEAB]

9 hours ago, Ol Dirty B said:

 

Watching Gronk attempt to run this season has been crazy. I'd love for them to comeback, I'm starting to get the feeling they won't and we will never get to see the Bills just beat up on them. 

 

I really really hope I'm wrong.

Yeah. Gronk has become a liability out there. His body is 50 years old. I've been watching Tom Brady for OVER 20 years as  a Michigan fan and I've never once believed he was done...until now. Everything is off for him and PERHAPS he is subconsciously aware of it. He throws off his back foot to avoid ANY contact, etc. Not just because he knew he could beat the Bills. This has been going on for a while. I don't buy the injury thing and even if it is the case, Brady doesn't suddenly bounce back at 42. Manning was also injured toward the end of his time in Denver. You can be both injured and done.

 

None of this means anything if the Bills don't drastically improve, but as far as the Patriots are concerned, it's over.

24 minutes ago, Looper said:

 

I don't see them winning this year with KC & NO or even LA. They might not get out of the 1st round against Houston or Baltimore.

 

Will be interesting to see what BB does if Brady/Gronk retire.

I don't think they beat the Ravens if that ends up being the first round matchup. Wouldn't that be fitting?

[Seventeen]

9 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said:

Yeah. Gronk has become a liability out there. His body is 50 years old. I've been watching Tom Brady for OVER 20 years as  a Michigan fan and I've never once believed he was done...until now. Everything is off for him and PERHAPS he is subconsciously aware of it. He throws off his back foot to avoid ANY contact, etc. Not just because he knew he could beat the Bills. This has been going on for a while. I don't buy the injury thing and even if it is the case, Brady doesn't suddenly bounce back at 42. Manning was also injured toward the end of his time in Denver. You can be both injured and done.

 

None of this means anything if the Bills don't drastically improve, but as far as the Patriots are concerned, it's over.

I don't think they beat the Ravens if that ends up being the first round matchup. Wouldn't that be fitting?

 

Happened twice before up at Gillette. 

 

I can't wait until I see something like this again ...

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:1990_AFC_East_standings

[LSHMEAB]

1 minute ago, Looper said:

 

Happened twice before up at Gillette. 

 

I can't wait until I see something like this again ...

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:1990_AFC_East_standings

That Baltimore defense is playing LIGHTS OUT. If L Jax limits turnovers and the offense can put up some points, I EXPECT the Ravens to beat that team.

 

And I was referencing the past when the Ravens were the only team to go into Gillette and actually come out with a W. As much hate as Flacco gets, he had his playoff moments.

[formerlyofCtown]

2 hours ago, PatsFanNH said:

Lol I loved threw the patsy years when if they went .500 it felt like an accomplishment.  I also don’t think the Jets will win ANYTHING any time soon.  Thankfully they are run very very poorly.. 

 

I’ll cheer for my team even when they go 1-15. (And they will someday do that..) it’s a game, enjoy the good times and remember in the bad times it isn’t life or death but entertainment.

Im sure there will be three or four of you

[PatsFanNH]

1 hour ago, formerlyofCtown said:

Im sure there will be three or four of you

Lol pats were selling out as soon as Robert Kraft bought the team, continued even during the Pete Carroll years and BB first year of 4-11.   The fans are passionate up here, the real ones again just can’t afford it so lot of corporate shirts in there now..

[formerlyofCtown]

2 hours ago, PatsFanNH said:

Lol pats were selling out as soon as Robert Kraft bought the team, continued even during the Pete Carroll years and BB first year of 4-11.   The fans are passionate up here, the real ones again just can’t afford it so lot of corporate shirts in there now..

BB went 4-11.  Fire him

[Dr.Sack]

Also Gronkowski. He’s only 29 but looks like a slumbering slow tight end. He almost resembles an OLineman Tackle eligible going out for routes. His name makes him a decent decoy but he looks like he’s finished.

[Iron Maiden]

7 hours ago, Looper said:

 

I don't see them winning this year with KC & NO or even LA. They might not get out of the 1st round against Houston or Baltimore.

 

Will be interesting to see what BB does if Brady/Gronk retire.

 

You do realize that they most likely will be resting at home during the 1st round of the playoffs right ?....All they need is 1 home win and they are off to another AFC Championship game...same old song and dance...

[row_33]

10 minutes ago, Iron Maiden said:

 

You do realize that they most likely will be resting at home during the 1st round of the playoffs right ?....All they need is 1 home win and they are off to another AFC Championship game...same old song and dance...

 

Facts have never meant much around here...

 

[Seventeen]

35 minutes ago, Iron Maiden said:

 

You do realize that they most likely will be resting at home during the 1st round of the playoffs right ?....All they need is 1 home win and they are off to another AFC Championship game...same old song and dance...

 

I meant their 1st round, but you do know they haven't clinched a 1st round bye yet ?

Edited December 24, 2018 by Looper

[row_33]

15 minutes ago, Looper said:

 

I meant their 1st round, but you do know they haven't clinched a 1st round bye yet ?

 

Probably going to happen, I will temper my enthusiasm the rest of the week

 

 

[DC Tom]

BREAKING NEWS: Father time catches up with Brady, flagged for roughing the passer, suspended indefinitely by Goodell.  

[Koko78]

24 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

BREAKING NEWS: Father time catches up with Brady, flagged for roughing the passer, suspended indefinitely by Goodell.  

 

Father Time was also fined $50,000,000 by the league, which will be donated to the new preferred charity, TB12 Sports.

[BillsSB2020]

I just don't see the same pizazz from this Patriots bunch as years past. Our boys didn't play their best ball and yet Brady couldn't hit the broad side of the barn with most of his passes. He's had a distinguished career, but with Brady looking so fragile, it's tough to see them competiting with the hungrier upstarts. I suppose we're gonna find out if Belichick is as good as he's made out to be. If they hoist the Lombardi with this bunch, he deserves even more credit than he already receives.

[78thealltimegreat]

He is at a point in his career where he is going to live and die by his home record cause any decent team on the road is going to beat them.

[Livinginthepast]

11 hours ago, Looper said:

 

Happened twice before up at Gillette. 

 

I can't wait until I see something like this again ...

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:1990_AFC_East_standings

The Pats were so irrelevant in the 80s and 90s except for the 2 years they got walloped in the SBs. Outside of that, the only reason I remember a single Pats game from my childhood was when that guy on the tractor came on the field and cleaned the snow for the winning FG by the Pats.  I shake my head at the fact that they have been this good for this long. Truly it is like Brady and BB made a deal with the devil. Nobody is this good for this long. The fact that as Bills fans we have had to suffer with most of the garbage players and coaches of the last 20 years at the exact same time just rubs salt into the bitter wound!!!