wppete Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 (edited) Would love to see McBean go after Anthony Barr next year in Free Agency. Start him at SLB and move Lorenzo to DE. We have over $90 million to spend next year. Can you imagine Anthony Barr Next to Tremaine Edmunds? Tremaine Edmunds - 6’5 250 Anthony Barr - 6’5 255 Concentrate on offense and CB in the draft. Edited November 29, 2018 by wppete 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 He did not have a good day against the Bills.....but he is a good player. It is a position of need. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 This is kind of what happened when the Mack trade came up. There are things we need and it’s a salary cap league. Barr is really good and he would be great to have. (Just like Mack would have been) But we are in great shape at LB. We need to try and get better at almost every other position. Use the money to get better at WR, TE, OL, etc. We are in good shape at LB. Use that money elsewhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted November 29, 2018 Author Share Posted November 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, JoeF said: He did not have a good day against the Bills.....but he is a good player. It is a position of need. He had a horrible game against the Bills. But he is still one of the top LBs in the league and perfect fit for our 4-3 scheme in a position of need. I really hope it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 10 minutes ago, wppete said: He had a horrible game against the Bills. But he is still one of the top LBs in the league and perfect fit for our 4-3 scheme in a position of need. I really hope it happens. Can't have too many good LBs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Hell yeah!! Look at how Fournette pounded us. I'm glad he got ejected because if he didn't we would have lost!! With Anthony Barr we would not get violated like that again. Milano and Edmunds can be the cover guys, Anthony Barr takes care of the bigger backs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Please no. He’s been taken advantage of all year. He’s going to get way overpaid. Hopefully we aren’t the suckers to overpay a situational player. SLB becoming like a fullback. I’d rather keep Lorax. He’s been better than Barr and for a fraction of the price. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: This is kind of what happened when the Mack trade came up. There are things we need and it’s a salary cap league. Barr is really good and he would be great to have. (Just like Mack would have been) But we are in great shape at LB. We need to try and get better at almost every other position. Use the money to get better at WR, TE, OL, etc. We are in good shape at LB. Use that money elsewhere. I don't think Barr will cost $90M. Plenty of money left after to go after WR and OLine. If you can get another LB of quality, do it. Edited November 29, 2018 by Mark80 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Just now, NewDayBills said: Hell yeah!! Look at how Fournette pounded us. I'm glad he got ejected because if he didn't we would have lost!! With Anthony Barr we would not get violated like that again. Milano and Edmunds can be the cover guys, Anthony Barr takes care of the bigger backs. You think Anthony Barr would’ve made the difference in stopping the jags on Sunday?? I think you’re mistaken. No offense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 I would be on board with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 1 minute ago, Mark80 said: I don't think Barr will cost $90M. Plenty of money left after to go after WR and OLine. If you can get another LB of quality, do it. If Barr costs $90 million a year then he would be the highest paid player in the NFL by a multiple of at least 3.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 1 minute ago, Mark80 said: I don't think Barr will cost $90M. Plenty of money left after to go after WR and OLine. If you can get another LB that can run like a CB, do it. He won’t cost 90 mill but he’ll cost more than he’s worth. This would be a massive mistake imo. Save that money for Milano. In two years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Just now, NewEra said: You think Anthony Barr would’ve made the difference in stopping the jags on Sunday?? I think you’re mistaken. No offense Milano and Edmunds got abused. Obviously Edmunds will grow into his body, but he got owned. I do think a bruiser like Barr could cause concern for Fournette. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 I wouldn't think it would be wise to shell out big money for a LB which he will command when our OL is in shambles and our WR core is mediocre, just my opinion though and barr is a decent LB but also a liability in pass coverage, I don't think a 2 down LB is worth what Barr is about to be paid in a passing league unless he's strictly a pass rusher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGun12TD Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 How about fixing the entire offense? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 11 minutes ago, Mark80 said: I don't think Barr will cost $90M. Plenty of money left after to go after WR and OLine. If you can get another LB of quality, do it. That money is going to go faster then people realize. We are also going to eventually have to pay some of our own guys. I have no interest in paying a SLB which in today’s game is barely a starter and literally the least important player on a defense. Teams run nickle almost every down. It’s just not a smart idea. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 6 minutes ago, NewDayBills said: Milano and Edmunds got abused. Obviously Edmunds will grow into his body, but he got owned. I do think a bruiser like Barr could cause concern for Fournette. Like you said, he’s going to grow. He’s going to get better. He’d be playing less than half the snaps. He wouldn’t play nickel. Alexander is a bruiser. A way more forceful bruiser than Barr and it’s not even really close. Do you want him because he’s a bruiser? Or because he’s fast? His best traits is rushing the passer and his speed, while he’s not very good in coverage. I guess I just don’t understand why we’re talking about signing one of the top free agents.......at SLB. A position that is used less and less. How many of those Fournette runs did we play a nickel? Anyone have stats on that? We play nickel more than any packages that would include Barr. Overpay for OL. Not SLB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 8 minutes ago, NewEra said: Like you said, he’s going to grow. He’s going to get better. He’d be playing less than half the snaps. He wouldn’t play nickel. Alexander is a bruiser. A way more forceful bruiser than Barr and it’s not even really close. Do you want him because he’s a bruiser? Or because he’s fast? His best traits is rushing the passer and his speed, while he’s not very good in coverage. I guess I just don’t understand why we’re talking about signing one of the top free agents.......at SLB. A position that is used less and less. How many of those Fournette runs did we play a nickel? Anyone have stats on that? We play nickel more than any packages that would include Barr. Overpay for OL. Not SLB I want Lorax + Anthony Barr. In addition to, not one or the other. Having more than one bruiser is a good idea against teams like Jacksonville, teams who rely heavily on the run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 41 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: This is kind of what happened when the Mack trade came up. There are things we need and it’s a salary cap league. Barr is really good and he would be great to have. (Just like Mack would have been) But we are in great shape at LB. We need to try and get better at almost every other position. Use the money to get better at WR, TE, OL, etc. We are in good shape at LB. Use that money elsewhere. Way too many posts from people wanting/ thinking the team needs all pro's across the board. You can't afford that. Two very good LB's which the Bills seem to have can make the third guy look much better Just like 2 good lineman will make the weakest look like he should be in the Pro Bowl. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 You don’t even use the 3rd LB anymore. It’s almost all nickel. It’s perfect for Lorenzo because then he can slide down onto the line and also remain a big factor on ST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Sams aren't on the field much of the time and so investing big dollars there doesn't get this team much closer to 10+ wins. With the league dominated by passing, teams are more likely to have 2 LBs on the field, and in the 40 front that's the Will and Mike. Buffalo seems to have those 2 in Milano and Edmunds. No one knows who the UFAs will be when the new league year opens in March 2019. But if they're using big money on any UFA defender, it's the wrong answer to their issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 (edited) Don't we mainly run a nickel defense? Milano Edmunds Johnson is basically the starting lineup. If we didn't have Milano I would be interested but considering where the NFL is now, aren't we better off with those 3 as the starters over Milano Edmunds and Barr. It would seem to me that Barr would take Johnson off the field and make the defense worse overall. Plus you are going to have to pay Milano in a couple years and Edmunds down the line. Based on the cost and where the game is today, I think we are far better off with what we have now. Try to add some cheaper depth at linebacker and pay to bring in offense is where I think we should go. Edited November 29, 2018 by K-GunJimKelly12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBD Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Alexander is on the field for only about 54% of the plays. If he comes at a reasonable price, sure. But I'm not willing to sign a player for a large amount of money if there isn't an every down role for that player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 No thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 29 minutes ago, NewDayBills said: I want Lorax + Anthony Barr. In addition to, not one or the other. Having more than one bruiser is a good idea against teams like Jacksonville, teams who rely heavily on the run. It’s just a waste of resources in today’s day and age imo. We have two very young and promising LBs. That’s what you need in today’s nfl. Our 3rd LB has been very productive and is a locker room/culture perfect fit. I’d rather him play than overpay for a luxury. Too many holes on O to sign a 3rd LB that will probably be the 3rd highest paid player on the team. Pass Agree to disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 1 hour ago, wppete said: Would love to see McBean go after Anthony Barr next year in Free Agency. Start him at SLB and move Lorenzo to DE. We have over $90 million to spend next year. Can you imagine Anthony Barr Next to Tremaine Edmunds? Tremaine Edmunds - 6’5 250 Anthony Barr - 6’5 255 Concentrate on offense and CB in the draft. I think he could do well in the hybrid role Zo plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 If we're going to put down a lot of money on one defensive player, I would much prefer it to be a pass rusher. You can never have too many of those. Fix the offense first....make that $12 million dollars invested now go up by 3 times at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 I don't like his fit. I'd rather get Devin White or some kid in the 3rd. Maybe Khalil Hodge in the 5th. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 1 hour ago, wppete said: Would love to see McBean go after Anthony Barr next year in Free Agency. Start him at SLB and move Lorenzo to DE. We have over $90 million to spend next year. Can you imagine Anthony Barr Next to Tremaine Edmunds? Tremaine Edmunds - 6’5 250 Anthony Barr - 6’5 255 Concentrate on offense and CB in the draft. Pete...that's not so bad. I love Zo and he keeps himself in great shape. Cut his reps and just letting him go after the QB seems doable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Barr is good in Madden, but in reality, very overrated imo. Hard pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Plz keep Lorax. I want him to retire as a bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 I'd rather draft Josh Allen as he can play the strong side linebacker position AND give the defense pass rush potential in sub packages. That's the smarter move IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted November 29, 2018 Author Share Posted November 29, 2018 1 hour ago, KGun12TD said: How about fixing the entire offense? I agree but have a look at next years Free Agent list. Not many great WR or OL available. Its pretty week year for Offensive players in free agency. I think they will use the High Draft picks on offensive players and try and help the defense at DE, LB and CB in free agency. 30 minutes ago, GETTOTHE50 said: Plz keep Lorax. I want him to retire as a bill. For sure keep Lorenzo, just move him to DE and let him abuse some QBs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Like everything else, if the price is right and he fits our process and cap, then go for it. But this is not a primary need. OL #1. WR #2 TE #3 RB #4 CB #5 LB #6 DE/DT #7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, wppete said: Would love to see McBean go after Anthony Barr next year in Free Agency. Start him at SLB and move Lorenzo to DE. We have over $90 million to spend next year. Can you imagine Anthony Barr Next to Tremaine Edmunds? Tremaine Edmunds - 6’5 250 Anthony Barr - 6’5 255 Concentrate on offense and CB in the draft. He's the top UFA on my list for the Bills, as while it's hard not to love LorAx the truth is I don't know how much gas he has in the tank. Edited November 29, 2018 by The Jokeman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 As much as I'd love to have Barr, we need oline and wrs. Start building this team around Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctk232 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 2 hours ago, wppete said: He had a horrible game against the Bills. But he is still one of the top LBs in the league and perfect fit for our 4-3 scheme in a position of need. I really hope it happens. He might fill a Lorax role in a 4-3 but wouldn't spend enough time on the field to justify his contract though. We run Nickel packages most of the time with two true LBs and Lorax filling the rush LB role along the line. I like Barr but the fit and role he would fill in this defense doesn't necessarily align with what we'd likely have to pay him. Especially when it comes time to extend Tre, Edmunds, and Milano. I am tempted though, as Lorax won't be around much longer, but I feel his position replacement is more cheaply and efficiently addressed through this draft, even future drafts if Lorax sticks around another year or two. Given Barr's development thus far, it's more likely a good draft pick yields more upside for the contract if addressed properly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Josh Allen already owns him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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