Johnny Hammersticks Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 (edited) He clearly disrespected Hue Jackson in his post game interview for seeking gainful employment (after being fired) with a division opponent. There may be more behind the scene re: Mayfield/Jackson, but I thought it was uncouth of him to put Hue on blast on television. Thoughts? Edit: Edited November 27, 2018 by Johnny Hammersticks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy1 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Yes he was. 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: He clearly disrespected Hue Jackson in his post game interview for seeking gainful employment (after being fired) with a division opponent. There may be more behind the scene re: Mayfield/Jackson, but I thought it was uncouth of him to put Hue on blast on television. Thoughts? The weird part was that Jackson was fired...he didn't quit and sign on with a rival. I guess he is never allowed to work again! 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Yes. He’s already a small man, doesn’t really need to be actively trying to look smaller. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted November 27, 2018 Author Share Posted November 27, 2018 My initial reaction was “this kid has no class.” Yet he’s a kid I guess. I don’t know. His behavior in that moment was classless. I don’t know that I’m ready to completely judge his character though. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PittsforDave Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Napoleon complex... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Does Hue deserve any respect. The guy is a bafoon with an attitude himself. Did anyone watch Hard Knocks. Hue is an idiot too. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 All it shows me is he is an ultra competitor like Brady and Brees, and like Peyton Manning was. That is what you want in a QB imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 (edited) I think there's a few things at play, here. 1. Mayfield is young and perhaps a bit immature. 2. Mayfield, at his age, may not realize that a man Hue Jackson's age isn't going to have many opportunities in the NFL; especially after getting fired after a Peterman-esque career in Cleveland. 3. Mayfield is trying to win over a team and a fan base. On the heels of throwing 4 TDs and no INTs, he took an opportunity to pound his chest one more time that day. I would be shocked that, 5+ years down the road, Mayfield wouldn't have handled it with a tad more grace/subtlety and professionalism. But he's a kid. I don't think he crossed any lines. That said, if he came out with those remarks as a seasoned vet, I'd likely feel differently. Edited November 27, 2018 by Gugny 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Just now, BillsRdue said: Does Hue deserve any respect. The guy is a bafoon with an attitude himself. Did anyone watch Hard Knocks. Hue is an idiot too. Idiots are allowed to get jobs too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 1 minute ago, 4merper4mer said: Idiots are allowed to get jobs too. He can have a job. Who cares? Doesn't mean he gets the respect of his former team or any team. The man will continue to lose. He's a loser. Baker is a winner. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted November 27, 2018 Author Share Posted November 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, K-GunJimKelly12 said: All it shows me is he is an ultra competitor like Brady and Brees, and like Peyton Manning was. That is what you want in a QB imo. I don’t think any of the QB’s you mentioned would have handled that situation the same way...even as a rook. 2 minutes ago, BillsRdue said: He can have a job. Who cares? Doesn't mean he gets the respect of his former team or any team. The man will continue to lose. He's a loser. Baker is a winner. Fair enough, but the real issue here is not whether or not Hue deserved such criticism. It is more about Baker, the face of the franchise, taking the liberty to do so publically. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Honestly I thought you were talking about what happened on the field. I am not aware of what he said after the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatdane21 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 He is young hopefully he will start thinking before he speaks . Sometimes that comes with age. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, BillsRdue said: He can have a job. Who cares? Doesn't mean he gets the respect of his former team or any team. The man will continue to lose. He's a loser. Baker is a winner. The question wasn't about career success. It was about whether Mayfield was a douche and.....yup. Look at me. I'm a winner. Now I can talk crap all I want and have no class. The fruits of my labor have really paid off. Now I'll cash them in by treating other people like crap. Yay me! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Fair enough, but the real issue here is not whether or not Hue deserved such criticism. It is more about Baker, the face of the franchise, taking the liberty to do so publically. Why not? If some loser was stinking up my workplace, making bonehead decisions that made me do a worse job, I might take a jab or two if given the opportunity. It's not like he came out and said, "Hue is a f'kin idiot who thinks he can go to a division rival and get back at us. Nice try loser." And yes Baker is a bit of an arrogant douchebag but a hell of a QB. That's why he went #1. The way things are playing out, I hope JA turns out to be the best of the bunch. He's a strong #2 right now. 2 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: The question wasn't about career success. It was about whether Mayfield was a douche and.....yup. The response was an answer to another question. Baker's a douche but a winner. Hue is an idiot and a loser. Hue made Baker a worse QB and he took a tiny shot. No biggie to me. Edited November 27, 2018 by BillsRdue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted November 27, 2018 Author Share Posted November 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, BillsRdue said: Why not? If some loser was stinking up my workplace, making bonehead decisions that made me do a worse job, I might take a jab or two if given the opportunity. It's not like he came out and said, "Hue is a f'kin idiot who thinks he can go to a division rival and get back at us. Nice try loser." And yes Baker is a bit of an arrogant douchebag but a hell of a QB. That's why he went #1. The way things are playing out, I hope JA turns out to be the best of the bunch. He's a strong #2 right now. Okay...but I can think of a few reasons why not. I think they’re obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, BillsRdue said: Why not? If some loser was stinking up my workplace, making bonehead decisions that made me do a worse job, I might take a jab or two if given the opportunity. It's not like he came out and said, "Hue is a f'kin idiot who thinks he can go to a division rival and get back at us. Nice try loser." And yes Baker is a bit of an arrogant douchebag but a hell of a QB. That's why he went #1. The way things are playing out, I hope JA turns out to be the best of the bunch. He's a strong #2 right now. Jackson participated in selecting Mayfield #1 overall. Hasn't that earned him "if you can't say something nice about someone don't say anything at all" status? Winners don't blame others for doing a lesser job and take jabs at them. Immature people do that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 25 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: My initial reaction was “this kid has no class.” Yet he’s a kid I guess. I don’t know. His behavior in that moment was classless. I don’t know that I’m ready to completely judge his character though. ...somebody should remind this kid that it is Hugh's THIRD trip through Cincy.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Okay...but I can think of a few reasons why not. I think they’re obvious. Maybe you're just not a winner so you have no desire to speak poorly of others. Did you ever think of that you loser? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 19 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: Idiots are allowed to get jobs too. Yes, and in fact we need idiots in the workforce. How else am I going to find a shopping cart before i enter the grocery store? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 I didn't mind that he basically rejected the man-hug. But I thought what he said was stupid. Hue didn't quit and join the other team in the state. He got fired. At that point, he's gotta do what's best for him, just like Baker would in his shoes. This idea that he shouldn't go to the Bengals out of some kind of loyalty to the team that fired him is a joke. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted November 27, 2018 Author Share Posted November 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: Maybe you're just not a winner so you have no desire to speak poorly of others. Did you ever think of that you loser? I guess I didn’t think of that ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: I guess I didn’t think of that ?? You're probably making people around you do a lesser job. Don't be surprised if they take jabs at you. They are winners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 35 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: My initial reaction was “this kid has no class.” Yet he’s a kid I guess. I don’t know. His behavior in that moment was classless. I don’t know that I’m ready to completely judge his character though. That sums it up for me. He's a rook, but that's not a good look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Meh. The reporter asked if they spoke, then followed it up with asking why it was so short and he said he didn't feel like talking, then gave an explanation. Was it a jab or honesty? He clarified that there was no animosity, just didn't feel like talking to someone he now views as a rival. People B word because players are too friendly with one another and don't seem to care about the game and they B word because they're not friendly enough to show enough sportsmanship for their liking. To answer your question, though, of course he was a douche yesterday... and the day before that... and the day before that... he's Baker Mayfield. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted November 27, 2018 Author Share Posted November 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, transient said: Meh. The reporter asked if they spoke, then followed it up with asking why it was so short and he said he didn't feel like talking, then gave an explanation. Was it a jab or honesty? He clarified that there was no animosity, just didn't feel like talking to someone he now views as a rival. People B word because players are too friendly with one another and don't seem to care about the game and they B word because they're not friendly enough to show enough sportsmanship for their liking. To answer your question, though, of course he was a douche yesterday... and the day before that... and the day before that... he's Baker Mayfield. I’m not fully on board with your assessment of the situation, but the bolded actually made me laugh out loud. Well done. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Maybe he never got along with him. Maybe he didn't agree with his decisions as the head coach. Now that he is gone he can be a little more vocal about it. Hue was a failure as a head coach, so it makes sense to me the Mayfield would realize that from day one and see the evidence of his failures. He probably didn't appreciate the power struggle between Jackson and the offensive and defensive coordinators. I don't blame him at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhickedWilliams Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 2 hours ago, Johnnycage46 said: The weird part was that Jackson was fired...he didn't quit and sign on with a rival. I guess he is never allowed to work again! Must be be more to this story than the public knows. They may have fired him due to starting Taylor not the Rook!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbarrettb Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Hue is terrible. That being said we have no idea what their relationship was like internally. It seems from the outside that Baker and Hue did not get along. I like Baker I dislike Hue. Going back to last year the way he would run through qbs in one game was a joke. If I was an nfl owner I wouldn’t let him anywhere near my football team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKO NFL Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 3 hours ago, K-GunJimKelly12 said: All it shows me is he is an ultra competitor like Brady and Brees, and like Peyton Manning was. That is what you want in a QB imo. I agree. I saw the interview in question with Baker Mayfield, and have seen numerous others. I don't think he was being a "doosh". He stated his opinion in a civil, but disapproving way, in the context of studying all week to beat the rival Bengals - knowing his former coach had joined the Browns' cross state rivals to use his knowledge to defeat the rookie QB. Mayfield is ultra competitive (and talented). I watched most of the first half of the Browns win at Cincinatti. He was unbelievable - leading the Browns to 4 touchdowns in as many drives. Write it down, he is the next Drew Brees. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bfanlc Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 I think Baker knew Hue was holding him back. Look at what's happened since he left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 14 minutes ago, Bfanlc said: I think Baker knew Hue was holding him back. Look at what's happened since he left. That's fine, but to me it seemed like he was kicking a man when he was down in order for him to win points with his fan base. Was classless and immature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Yeah.. acts like he didn't transfer from Tech to Oklahoma. You da turncoat Baker. Hue got fired and took a job! You dumped the Big12 team that launched your career for a better program to **** on your old team for.. Baker reasons. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 5 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: My initial reaction was “this kid has no class.” Yet he’s a kid I guess. I don’t know. His behavior in that moment was classless. I don’t know that I’m ready to completely judge his character though. He was the oldest QB taken at 23 yrs old. Darnold Rosen and Jackson were 21 Our beloved Cornfed is 22. Not surprised he didn't take the high road,he loves to rock the boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 (edited) Johnny Football's little brother Edited November 27, 2018 by HOUSE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 That would be, "douche". And you are right, he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 6 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: He clearly disrespected Hue Jackson in his post game interview for seeking gainful employment (after being fired) with a division opponent. There may be more behind the scene re: Mayfield/Jackson, but I thought it was uncouth of him to put Hue on blast on television. Thoughts? Edit: I like Mayfield but my first thought was that it was disrespectful . He s still immature and doesn't realize that Hue was not trying to get back at him in some way by joining the "enemy". Guess he forgot that he was in Cincy long before he was in Cleveland. This is a business kid not personal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 2 hours ago, Doc Brown said: That's fine, but to me it seemed like he was kicking a man when he was down in order for him to win points with his fan base. Was classless and immature. You mean like Hue's media tour after he was fired where he indirectly blamed everybody but himself, and tried to rewrite history by saying he wanted Wentz and Watson? Classless and immature like that? 1 hour ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said: Yeah.. acts like he didn't transfer from Tech to Oklahoma. You da turncoat Baker. Hue got fired and took a job! You dumped the Big12 team that launched your career for a better program to **** on your old team for.. Baker reasons. That, or Tech wouldn't offer their starting freshman walk on QB a scholarship, so he left. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd1 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 6 hours ago, HomeskillitMoorman said: I didn't mind that he basically rejected the man-hug. But I thought what he said was stupid. Hue didn't quit and join the other team in the state. He got fired. At that point, he's gotta do what's best for him, just like Baker would in his shoes. This idea that he shouldn't go to the Bengals out of some kind of loyalty to the team that fired him is a joke. The fact that Baker Mayfield Quarterbacked for Texas Tech for the 2013 season then voluntarily LEFT Texas Tech to play for RIVAL University of Oklahoma wouldn't make Baker a schmuck, would it? ? Mayfield has no "high horse" to look down from. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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