Johnnycage46 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 44 minutes ago, Jpsredemption said: I believe he threw 26 td passes. Think about that...and I have no part in social media so nice miss on you're philosophical injection. If only we had a Sean McVay or Matt Nagy to save us. You do realize this board IS social media, right? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said: I'm talking more about people crying to the mods a thread gets taken down. He should expect deconstruction, not crying to the mods about an opinion that is disagreeable. Oh I totally agree with you on that. Let the court of public opinion figure it out, this isn’t USSR circa 1951. Dude’s entitled to spout off if he feels he must Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 You are entitled to your opinion and I will defend your right to it! dripping......with.....sarcasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Joe Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 2 hours ago, Commonsense said: Did anyone see Kirby Pucket’s One handed catch? Kirby Puckett died way too young...unlike this post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 53 minutes ago, Jpsredemption said: I believe he threw 26 td passes. Think about that...and I have no part in social media so nice miss on you're philosophical injection. If only we had a Sean McVay or Matt Nagy to save us. I would just like to point out this small fact that we are JUST OVER a quarter of the way into the season.....and your trying to post a stat that Manning had by the end of the season....... But...I realize this does not matter to you because Lamp post is lamp post 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpsredemption Posted October 8, 2018 Author Share Posted October 8, 2018 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: I would just like to point out this small fact that we are JUST OVER a quarter of the way into the season.....and your trying to post a stat that Manning had by the end of the season....... But...I realize this does not matter to you because Lamp post is lamp post Obviously you aren't very good with numbers if you think Allen will even sniff 26. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 [This is an automated response] The topic title is potentially misleading. Accurate titles help the community find topics relevant to their interests and avoids reader frustration. Please change the topic title to more accurately reflect content of the original post.The topic starter can edit the topic title line to make it more appropriate. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 4 minutes ago, Jpsredemption said: Obviously you aren't very good with numbers if you think Allen will even sniff 26. Obviously you cannot tell the future.....we dont even know what his numbers are going to be yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpsredemption Posted October 8, 2018 Author Share Posted October 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: [This is an automated response] The topic title is potentially misleading. Accurate titles help the community find topics relevant to their interests and avoids reader frustration. Please change the topic title to more accurately reflect content of the original post.The topic starter can edit the topic title line to make it more appropriate. Thank you. Not sure what's misleading with as many replies as I've received. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 10 minutes ago, Jpsredemption said: Obviously you aren't very good with numbers if you think Allen will even sniff 26. Obviously that isn't obvious, since TDs and INTs are not usually evenly divided between games. In Manning's rookie season he had 4 TD and 12 INTs in the first 5 games. Then he was up-and-down the rest of the season with multiple TD and multiple INT games, leading to his overall 26 TD and 28 INT totals Not that I think it's at all appropriate to compare Manning and Allen, but since the topic came up and is being pursued here.... 3 minutes ago, Jpsredemption said: Not sure what's misleading with as many replies as I've received. It is misleading because your discussion is about Allen, but the title implies that "Utter Terror" has been observed in both Beane and McDermott. You believe they *should* be experiencing "utter terror" because of your opinion of Allen, but no signs of this have been observed nor are you arguing that they have. Thus your title is misleading. You may edit it to be less misleading. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 (edited) Yep, right to the comments for me as well. 2 hours ago, Augie said: I read most of the first paragraph. That was plenty.... Edited October 8, 2018 by Idandria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 can we start banning these people who are obviously posting just to get a reaction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 3 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: Terror at One Bills Drive! Rated R. Coming soon: 2019 !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Jpsredemption said: This is not a crusade. It's not like criticizing Allen is some radical concept. If we had Aaron Rodgers and I was spouting off constantly about how awful he was then that's crusade territory. Dissent is a good thing. We can't lose sight of that. It would be different if your "dissent" actually made sense.....which it hardly ever does..... Aaron Rodger's as an example....ARE YOU KIDDING ME? The guy that sat behind another QB because everyone said he needed time......yet you have the nerve to try to compare Josh Allen to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Just wondering what your Allen “hot take” was right after he eviscerated the Vikes’ D and flipped the script on what was supposed to be a 16.5 spread Minnie victory? That virtually no one here saw coming? How many threads did you post in before that came discussing what the body count would be and how pathetic Allen would show out that day? How to account for such a blip in the narrative that he’s a bust? Let me address the argument before it’s made—Minnie decided to lay down, right? Came out flat? Zimmer himself made it crystal clear that they got their ***es kicked by the Bills, plain and simple, and had nothing to do with Minnie’s own prep or lack of it. Mark my words, that won’t be the only time this year. Today was a different game plan from Daboll where Allen wasn’t asked to beat the world himself, but he did make the critical plays when he absolutely had to. He’s got ice water in his veins and plays with passion. Don’t remember EJ ever putting his limbs on the line running track out there like this kid does to fire up his team. Go Bills!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 11 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: can we start banning these people who are obviously posting just to get a reaction? I don't think it's that obvious, though the title is misleading. I think he's sincere in his opinions and wants to share them (mistaken in my opinion, but sincere). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26TrapDraw Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 3 hours ago, JerseyBills said: 2-2 as a starter , wins is the only stat that matters. Allen will be okay and his teammates fight their butts off for him, he came through clutch today on a game winning drive! And this is all that really matters. Line up a few NFL caliber wideouts and we got something . Players don't fight for their field general if he doesn't fight himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 He’s a 22 year old rookie only gonna get better. Patience Daniel Son! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 It’s the clap I am afraid of. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 (edited) I'm sure you'll love the attention if Allen doesn't work out. Question is, what will you do if Allen turns out to be good? Edited October 8, 2018 by MJS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 He us doing fine. Yesterday he threw the ball away when he needed to, didn't force things. He's showing growth and learning from game to game. He makes accurate throws when he has time in the pocket. Those saying he's terrible and can't improve are clueless and desperately trying to justify their preformed opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 9 hours ago, Jpsredemption said: don't be blinded by reality...you're jobs may depend on it. ....wait...what?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbomb Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Definitely top 5 worst poster on tsw right now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 9 hours ago, Jpsredemption said: With Allen looking as bad as he does, even though these two did absolutely nothing offensively to help his cause, McD and Beane must be in panic mode (Derek Anderson, really?). Not only do you have to rebuild an entire offense but your prized QB is beyond terrible. Maybe if they would have listened to the overwhelming majority of pundits they wouldn't have traded all their draft capital for a guy with suspect accuracy and pocket awareness. Couple this with underachieving at Wyoming and I'm not really sure why he was ever a consideration in the first round to begin with. If its me..and trust me I know this will not happen.. I am very seriously considering a QB with my top 10 pick next year if there isn't any progression. I know everyone wants to give it time but how often is a QB utterly awful only to turn it around and become great these days (Goff seems to be the exception to the rule - not ready to anoint Trubisky). So I'd be kicking my self in the rear if I were these guys. I gave up (2) crucial 2nd round picks that could have been used to bolster my roster even further and probably could have done so and skill gotten Josh Rosen had I stayed put. So go ahead and tell me it's too early. Some of us know when things are going to end poorly (EJ Manuel). My advice to Beane and McD is think long and hard this offseason and don't be blinded by reality...you're jobs may depend on it. You're right, we should see what we can get before the trade deadline. I heard Tyrod Taylor is available. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Clause Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 7 hours ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said: I liked Allen's last drive.. recievers let him down again. He's improving and shows he has talent. But I hate self policing wannabe mods.. Mahomes is the MVP quarterback as of now. Rosen looks as advertised when he was the runaway #1 overall pick in March. We CAN be critical of the regime and not cry to the mods when someone makes a hot take OP. You're having a mod crusade Doc. I like your posts but I don't like crying to the mods when you disagree. The team is an emotional rollercoaster and the forum is a rollercoaster.. let the free speech ride brutha! Are we talking about the Rosen who was 10-25? I don’t want anything mistaken here.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagon Circler Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 9 hours ago, dezertbill said: It won't be you. So thankfully taking another QB next year won't happen. Our rookie QB took us down the field in the final minutes when we needed a FG and won us the game. You are paying too much attention to stats. Our OL isn't anything to write home about and our WR are horrible. And this is all Allen's fault? I think Allen is remarkably poised for a rookie. When he came to the sideline on the GW drive he shrugged someone off like no big deal. He acts like anything but a rookie. My question to you is why didn't you write this after the Minnesota game when he completed 70% of his passes and was named AFC rookie of the week? Allen is going to have good games and bad games. Even the best QB's have them. It's about us winning the game. There are QB's that passed for 300 yards this week and lost. I'll take the W. And everyone is blowing this Derek Anderson thing out of proportion. He is coming in to mentor Allen, which is what he did with Cam Newton for 7 years. He isn't being brought in to take the QB job from Allen. Meanwhile TT and Fitz (2 former Bills QB's that everyone has been clamoring for) have both been benched. As you can plainly see, there is no panic in McD or Beane. They keep reiterating it's a young team and they will continue to grow and learn from their mistakes. Allen is still learning the QB position, and has made some amazing plays. The only one's panicking are some fans. Go find a Mahomes thread. Allen has had one good half and been pretty bad the rest of the time. I agree with the OP. Hasn't shown enough. Not ready to give up on him after week 5 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 9 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: Terror at One Bills Drive! Rated R. Didn't Part One actually star Russ Brandon and his secretary? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearLess Price Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 9 hours ago, JackKemp said: Does the OP understand that Derek Anderson will basically be a player-coach? Allen will still be the starter. How hard was this to understand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 9 hours ago, qwksilver said: Its usually less when we win, so we have that going for us this week But it was an unsatisfying win 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCBillsBeliever Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 9 hours ago, MichFan said: Jim Kelly was 1-6 in his first 7 starts for the Bills. That was after two years of pro ball in the USFL. Oh my God, I didn't watch the game, and my opinion is THE truth! Bench Kelly! Fire Beane! Beane must have had something to do with... @Jpsredemption Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 8 hours ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said: Totally understand that. Don't understand why people want to enforce mob mentality. To constantly tear at the kid is stupid..........progress isn`t linear. No mattter how he plays it sure beats watching Teyrod. Mahomes would be hot trash on this roster and Rosen would already be IR`d. We got one tough gamer and when he gets some talent around him there will be a lot of crow to eat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 oh op...the world you must live in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 9 minutes ago, JMF2006 said: To constantly tear at the kid is stupid..........progress isn`t linear. No mattter how he plays it sure beats watching Teyrod. Mahomes would be hot trash on this roster and Rosen would already be IR`d. We got one tough gamer and when he gets some talent around him there will be a lot of crow to eat. You were killing it. Until you added that dumb part about Mahomes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Just now, Teddy KGB said: You were killing it. Until you added that dumb part about Mahomes Do you think he would be doing much better than Cornfed with this surrounding cast... He is on a stacked team in KC built for success now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpsredemption Posted October 8, 2018 Author Share Posted October 8, 2018 6 hours ago, MJS said: I'm sure you'll love the attention if Allen doesn't work out. Question is, what will you do if Allen turns out to be good? I'll be thrilled and admit I was wrong. I'm just not banking on it. 8 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: [This is an automated response] The topic title is potentially misleading. Accurate titles help the community find topics relevant to their interests and avoids reader frustration. Please change the topic title to more accurately reflect content of the original post.The topic starter can edit the topic title line to make it more appropriate. Thank you. Thanks again for your automated opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 6 hours ago, iinii said: It’s the clap I am afraid of. ? Keep your clothes on and you will be ok 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 15 minutes ago, JMF2006 said: Do you think he would be doing much better than Cornfed with this surrounding cast... He is on a stacked team in KC built for success now. Of course not. Watkins, Kelce, Hill etc are studs. He wouldn’t be “hot garbage” here though. That’s for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpsredemption Posted October 8, 2018 Author Share Posted October 8, 2018 18 minutes ago, teef said: oh op...the world you must live in. I live in a world where all possibilities must be considered and I think Beane and McD should think long and hard IF things continue down this road about what hitching their wagons to this QB would mean to the long term prospects of the franchise. Don't want to set us back several years based on a faulty belief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Teddy KGB said: Of course not. Watkins, Kelce, Hill etc are studs. He wouldn’t be “hot garbage” here though. That’s for sure Ok maybe not but we will never know. One thing we can agree on is that he would be running for his life 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 11 hours ago, Jpsredemption said: With Allen looking as bad as he does, even though these two did absolutely nothing offensively to help his cause, McD and Beane must be in panic mode (Derek Anderson, really?). Not only do you have to rebuild an entire offense but your prized QB is beyond terrible. Maybe if they would have listened to the overwhelming majority of pundits they wouldn't have traded all their draft capital for a guy with suspect accuracy and pocket awareness. Couple this with underachieving at Wyoming and I'm not really sure why he was ever a consideration in the first round to begin with. If its me..and trust me I know this will not happen.. I am very seriously considering a QB with my top 10 pick next year if there isn't any progression. I know everyone wants to give it time but how often is a QB utterly awful only to turn it around and become great these days (Goff seems to be the exception to the rule - not ready to anoint Trubisky). So I'd be kicking my self in the rear if I were these guys. I gave up (2) crucial 2nd round picks that could have been used to bolster my roster even further and probably could have done so and skill gotten Josh Rosen had I stayed put. So go ahead and tell me it's too early. Some of us know when things are going to end poorly (EJ Manuel). My advice to Beane and McD is think long and hard this offseason and don't be blinded by reality...you're jobs may depend on it. Does the JP in your handle stand for JP Losman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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