Formerly Allan in MD Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 1 minute ago, LABILLBACKER said: Cut Lee and bring back O'Leary. Plus one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26TrapDraw Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Josh was just making bad rookie mistakes. He turned into many many sacks. He's learning. It's all part of it. Not saying you but I laughed at all the positive threads before this game and now we will see 68 threads all week with people wanting to slit their wrists. Allen was a rookie today and it likely won't be the last stinker he puts together this year. Side note Kelvin Benjamin sux asss 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 feel bad for Shady....chasing 12,000 gonna take awhile! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, Formerly Allan in MD said: OJ, early on, had a mediocre OL in front of him. He couldn't do much. It's a pathetic situation that year after year we neglect the line; this is what you get. Everyone wants to use high draft picks on glamour talent. We need effective trench talent, especially when you have an expensive rookie quarterback, who needs all the help he can get, and a premier running back, who can't locate a hole. Newhouse ugh! he averaged 4 yds per game early on. they didnt run him very much the first few yrs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: Hats off to the D. I thought they played a solid game overall. Not a fan of Daboll's play calling at all today. Defense was fantastic.. we'd be in the race if the offense gets a few first downs.. some TOP killing drives of their own. Just like an above 25th ranked offense.. that's it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 End of the day , I'll take 1-1 after @min and @gb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 McCoy has recurring nightmare: "Where's the hole, where's the hole, where's the hole ......." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 17 minutes ago, dulles said: and the cherry on top: we got to listen to Dan Fouts. Is that a good, or a bad thing? I didn't like him myself, but then, I like Romo and others hear bad-mouth him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW82 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, joesixpack said: I can almost feel the outrage. 7/10, would read again. Second half thread got locked, but to answer your question...No I don't think this team is going anywhere this year, but you need a team to win. There is no team if guys all lose faith in the process because the QB is sometimes beyond terrible to the point where you can't trust him. Games like this one contribute to that. They've now seen first hand just how ugly it can get with Josh under center. This can't happen again, or at least not in the manner it did. This has to be the low point for him. I said the same thing about Peterman when he threw five picks, and this game wasn't much better. The second time Peterman tanked a game his career was over. You just can't do your teammates like that, regardless of what position you play or where you were drafted. Edited September 30, 2018 by VW82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacchus44 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, stony said: Drove home from VT during most of the game. Picked up bits and pieces on the radio. Were Allen's incompletions a lot of drops, accuracy issues, etc? Curious what the numbers "say." All of the above...and the o-line was pathetic in terms of pass protection and opening running lanes. They gave him ZERO help today. Throw in the OC's inability to change/adjust schemes at halftime equaled Pettine owning this game and the Bills being blanked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Formerly Allan in MD said: McCoy has recurring nightmare: "Where's the hole, where's the hole, where's the hole ......." Averaged just under 5yds a carry. I don't get why we completely abandoned using him today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 9 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: That’s a fact Jack Josh Sackman Better sacks then picks. Yes, he caused some of his own sacks. Meanwhile his O line whiffed on blocks, blocked the wrong guy and even when the team made a first down they caused a penalty to help kill the drive. His receivers stink and it seems they all have a strange virus of "alligator arms". It's highly contagious so even a Bills DB dropped a pick six. The OC kept calling for deep routes with no outlets for the rookie QB and then when the game is out of hand he changes up and calls shorter passing plays. The entire Bills offensive assembly caused that smell from Green Bay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, Tcali said: he averaged 4 yds per game early on. they didnt run him very much the first few yrs But look what he did from '72 on with the Electric Company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSbSoon Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 I feel like this will be shadys last year here. He looked a little slower to me today, i know hes not 100% but the writing is on the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 7 minutes ago, stony said: Drove home from VT during most of the game. Picked up bits and pieces on the radio. Were Allen's incompletions a lot of drops, accuracy issues, etc? Curious what the numbers "say." Allen running for his life because of no blocking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Bacchus44 said: All of the above...and the o-line was pathetic in terms of pass protection and opening running lanes. They gave him ZERO help today. Throw in the OC's inability to change/adjust schemes at halftime equaled Pettine owning this game and the Bills being blanked. ...an embarrassment........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 30, 2018 Author Share Posted September 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, BeefCurtns said: He's learning. It's all part of it. Not saying you but I laughed at all the positive threads before this game and now we will see 68 threads all week with people wanting to slit their wrists. Allen was a rookie today and it likely won't be the last stinker he puts together this year. Side note Kelvin Benjamin sux asss I hear you. In GB and a Bills win was wishful thinking by many. We will see ups and downs for a while. 3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Is that a good, or a bad thing? I didn't like him myself, but then, I like Romo and others hear bad-mouth him. I’m guessing that was sarcasm Hap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 I just would like to know if Dabol is clueless or if it's that he doesn't have anyone to run his plays. Allen got no help at all today. The rest of the offense is barely replacement-level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Last weeks was an anomaly. This team has absolutely no identity or talent on offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 35 minutes ago, row_33 said: there were calls The holding by GB was blatant and every play. It was not called. Easy to go down the field if you’re cheating to that degree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Domdab99 said: I just would like to know if Dabol is clueless or if it's that he doesn't have anyone to run his plays. Allen got no help at all today. The rest of the offense is barely replacement-level. ...was this the SAME guy that showed up last week?.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Offensive game plan today was terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 30, 2018 Author Share Posted September 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, Nihilarian said: Better sacks then picks. Yes, he caused some of his own sacks. Meanwhile his O line whiffed on blocks, blocked the wrong guy and even when the team made a first down they caused a penalty to help kill the drive. His receivers stink and it seems they all have a strange virus of "alligator arms". It's highly contagious so even a Bills DB dropped a pick six. The OC kept calling for deep routes with no outlets for the rookie QB and then when the game is out of hand he changes up and calls shorter passing plays. The entire Bills offensive assembly caused that smell from Green Bay He held the ball too long and when he didn’t he panicked and threw the ball away Josh deserves all the criticism he gets (by rational posters) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Just now, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Offensive game plan today was terrible. Daboll's horrible game plan directly resulted in our rookie QB having as poor a performance as any Bills QB in recent history. They all have to lick their wounds and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Pettine cleaned our clock. Underrated DC IMO, he gets more out of less for those 3-4 defenses lacking depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your brain broke Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 We're processing backwards here. Just looked stupid in front of another mediocre team. All you can do is hope they show signs of progress moving forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Just now, Nihilarian said: Better sacks then picks. Not when you're down multiple scores in the 4th quarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McNubbins Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 (edited) McDermott - "Gotta evaluate. Then I'll evaluate. I'll evaluate and look at the tape and then evaluate." Edited September 30, 2018 by McNubbins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 gonna need to run, run, run, and run some more. the next upcoming weeks. no matter what. the houston game scares the !@#$ outta me. i dont want clowney or watt to kill allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 (edited) 27 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Hughes was getting held all first half and no flags. Allen was facemasked a few times with no call, hits to the head weren't called, how they could call allen being down with both knees down and ball under his arm not moving a fumble is beyond me. We played like trash today and not saying the refs are the only reason we lost but they are a big reason why teams win and lose. Edited September 30, 2018 by Not at the table Karlos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 17 minutes ago, TroutDog said: The holding by GB was blatant and every play. It was not called. Easy to go down the field if you’re cheating to that degree. you should give up watching dunk your head into a dishwashing sink full of ice water 9 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said: Allen was facemasked a few times with no call, hits to the head weren't called, how they could call allen being down with both knees down and ball under his arm not moving a fumble is beyond me. you should give up watching dunk your head into a dishwashing sink full of ice water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Your brain broke said: We're processing backwards here. Just looked stupid in front of another mediocre team. All you can do is hope they show signs of progress moving forward. YOU OBVIOUSLY WOULDN'T KNOW THE PROCESS IF IT WAS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU YOU DEADBEAT PROCESS MISUNDERSTANDING FAILURE OF A BILLS FAN. I'd like personally to know myself Edited September 30, 2018 by PetermanThrew5Picks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 30, 2018 Author Share Posted September 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Not at the table Karlos said: Allen was facemasked a few times with no call, hits to the head weren't called, how they could call allen being down with both knees down and ball under his arm not moving a fumble is beyond me. The refs were horrible for the most part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 21 minutes ago, Philly McButterpants said: He was brutal it was like watching a Patriot*s game.... I wanted to punch him in the throat when he kept whining about no roughing the passer call on Edmunds. He’s insufferable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, McNubbins said: McDermott - "Gotta evaluate. Then I'll evaluate. I'll evaluate and look at the tape and then evaluate." "I felt we gave a strong effort out there." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 The unabated free rushers are a recurring theme. Some had been clearly on Allen, not changing protection. But in this game, is it just me that feel the whole offense has been clueless to adjust? The OLine doesn't see it, Josh doesn't either, no hot routes change by the WRs/TE, and overall, no safety blanket dump-off options. WTH was that? Seems a good deal of this falls on the coaches! And no commitment to the run game, and well, no run game. That's not exciting... Almost ALL QBs need some run support or at least the threat of one. Daboll's pass routes were suspect but some good short lateral passes and two back sets very early were good. It was all vertical passing game from now on, and seems to me only Allen can play the part. Refs not calling the holdings vs Hughes and the blatant pick for a TD were indeed frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, row_33 said: you should give up watching dunk your head into a dishwashing sink full of ice water you should give up watching dunk your head into a dishwashing sink full of ice water Way to contribute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkirchofer Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 26 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Ever single year I see certain games steered or navigated in a certain direction. I saw Jerry held multiple times in this games yet not one flag. We were completely outplayed today but JA had both knees down and it's like the refs said "its Buffalo, let it stand. Even with favorable calls towards the Bills, the Packers would have still spanked us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COTC Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 Once again a flat out embarrassing, shut out lose. From the owners down, I’d be concern. 3 out of 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted September 30, 2018 Share Posted September 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: He held the ball too long and when he didn’t he panicked and threw the ball away Josh deserves all the criticism he gets (by rational posters) We also saw at the end when he had time he was able to make throws and the receivers actually caught it. The play calling was suspect for most of the game. The team needed to make 3 yards on two attempts rushing it and couldn't get it done. Allen didn't get much help from the rest of the offense as this was a rookie QB playing on a very bad offensive team. I have no doubt that most rational posters would agree with that. Perhaps even the irrational would agree too. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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