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  1. AJ McCarron is just the latest ex-Bills QB to end up on the Raiders.  EJ landed there last year, as have former Bills QB washouts Trent Edwards, who got cut not once, but in 2 separate pre seasons, J P Losman, who landed in Oakland after the UFL and Rob Johnson whose career ended in Giants camp but whose  last real NFL game was as a Raider.  Will Nate Peterman be in Raiders camp in 2019?

 

 

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21 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said:
  1. AJ McCarron is just the latest ex-Bills QB to end up on the Raiders.  EJ landed there last year, as have former Bills QB washouts Trent Edwards, who got cut not once, but in 2 separate pre seasons, J P Losman, who landed in Oakland after the UFL and Rob Johnson whose career ended in Giants camp but whose  last real NFL game was as a Raider.  Will Nate Peterman be in Raiders camp in 2019?

 

 

Gruden did seem to like him.

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When you've had as many failed QBs as we've had, the probability of a few ending up on the same team over the years probably isn't that high.  I wouldn't be surprised if a few other teams have had more than one of our failed QBs on their roster at some point as well. 

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To this point we are lucky things panned out the way they have it was a bad coaching move any way you look at it to let the one guy with the most experience although it be not a lot of experience walk when you have a rookie QB with no regular season in game experience & a second year QB with the history that Nate had !

 

If Allen gets hurt the Bills are screwed & at the very least i think AJ would have given the team a much better chance at winning than Petermen I know McD likes Nate & Nate is a lot like Tyrod, great work ethic, great team player, good leader, but when they get on the field for what ever reason it just doesn't show up !!

 

Which is the reason that Tyrod & Petermen are now both on the bench & their respective rookie QB's that were to be behind them to learn have kicked both their asses when given a chance & took their jobs from them .

 

I just pray Allen doesn't get hurt !! ?

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4 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said:
  1. AJ McCarron is just the latest ex-Bills QB to end up on the Raiders.  EJ landed there last year, as have former Bills QB washouts Trent Edwards, who got cut not once, but in 2 separate pre seasons, J P Losman, who landed in Oakland after the UFL and Rob Johnson whose career ended in Giants camp but whose  last real NFL game was as a Raider.  Will Nate Peterman be in Raiders camp in 2019?

 

Well duh they stole Darryl Lamonica from us in that trade.  They're still trying for a repeat.

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2 hours ago, Seanbillsfan2206 said:

I’d feel bad putting McCarron in that group. He didn’t get a shot in Buffalo, and in hindsight, we definitely should have kept him on the roster...

I don't think so, McCarron made some stupid mistakes in preseason, mistakes a 5 year vet shouldn't make, I'll take the 5th thank you.

 

This is Allen's team now, I'm glad McCarron isn't here to potentially divide the locker room, Allen is in charge now.

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4 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said:
  1. AJ McCarron is just the latest ex-Bills QB to end up on the Raiders.  EJ landed there last year, as have former Bills QB washouts Trent Edwards, who got cut not once, but in 2 separate pre seasons, J P Losman, who landed in Oakland after the UFL and Rob Johnson whose career ended in Giants camp but whose  last real NFL game was as a Raider.  Will Nate Peterman be in Raiders camp in 2019?

 

 

 

Ryan Fitzpatrick is not a failed QB hence why he has never been on Raiders offense.

 

He will probably end his career in Las Vegas after a few more stops first.

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1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Well duh they stole Darryl Lamonica from us in that trade.  They're still trying for a repeat.

I thought about saying that they've been trying to duplicate Lamonica, but then I thought about the gap between the years and the fact that Lamonica never washed out in Buffalo like the others.  Mini camp & preseason was all that was needed for the Bills to know they should take whatever they can for McCarron.  I guess EJ was so bad they just had to go back to the Bills for his replacement.  

It's almost like the reverse of when I was a kid so many years ago and I was a big Yankees fan (they're still my top baseball team and when the Bills are bad, I think they're just making up for all the good years the Yankees have given me) and the Yankees would always make these one sided trades with the KC A's.  Guys who were mediocre or unknown in KC went to the Yankees and became stars.  The biggest name was Roger Maris, who as a Yankee broke Babe Ruth's homerun record. 

 

 

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4 hours ago, Seanbillsfan2206 said:

I’d feel bad putting McCarron in that group. He didn’t get a shot in Buffalo, and in hindsight, we definitely should have kept him on the roster...

 

He had a shot in preseason. He looked worse than the other two.

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2 hours ago, Rico said:

Best back-up QB in the league, I’ve read it on this board.

Servicable. From what I saw he can stick around as a backup for a long career. Beats Peterman by miles! That's a guy I don't see lasting much longer. I bet other GMs in the league are scratching their head why he's not practice squad at best. Once whoever is in love with him finally breaks up, can't see him going anywhere. 

 

EJ at least will bounce around and around and around

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10 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said:
  1. AJ McCarron is just the latest ex-Bills QB to end up on the Raiders.  EJ landed there last year, as have former Bills QB washouts Trent Edwards, who got cut not once, but in 2 separate pre seasons, J P Losman, who landed in Oakland after the UFL and Rob Johnson whose career ended in Giants camp but whose  last real NFL game was as a Raider.  Will Nate Peterman be in Raiders camp in 2019?

 

 

 

Who said that Peterman will be gone in 2019?   

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3 hours ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said:

Servicable. From what I saw he can stick around as a backup for a long career. Beats Peterman by miles! That's a guy I don't see lasting much longer. I bet other GMs in the league are scratching their head why he's not practice squad at best. Once whoever is in love with him finally breaks up, can't see him going anywhere. 

 

EJ at least will bounce around and around and around

I will agree he’s better than Peterman, but that’s about it. At least Nate is still in the league, for now anyways. I do see he’s one of 8 QBs trying out for the Raiders, Goodwin must be pleased. :lol:

 

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5 hours ago, Rico said:

I will agree he’s better than Peterman, but that’s about it. At least Nate is still in the league, for now anyways. I do see he’s one of 8 QBs trying out for the Raiders, Goodwin must be pleased. :lol:

 

Ah crap no idea he was a free agent, beaten out by McCarron apparently?? Whatever, name me ANY Quarterback not named JaMarcus Russel and I'll sign him and cut Pick5Pete

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Good thing You didn't say Patriots**/49ers because they also sent a "failed" QB to the Raiders: Jim Plunkett.

 

Oh... And wasn't Tom Flores a "failed" QB the Raiders sent the Bills?  Again, they got last laugh and won TWO SuperBowls w/Flores as coach and Plunkett as QB.  Just as they did with Lamonica.   We sent Flores to KC and He won a SB (albeit as a backup).

 

I still say through the years, Raiders made out better.

 

 

 

 

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16 hours ago, Seanbillsfan2206 said:

I’d feel bad putting McCarron in that group. He didn’t get a shot in Buffalo, and in hindsight, we definitely should have kept him on the roster...

 

Considering he is a 5th year vet, he was the worst player on the field for over half of the 4th preseason game against players not likely to stay in the league, and he looked like ?? against the Browns. He had by far the worst showing of any of the QBs in camp in preseason. Not a great look for someone who thought he should be a starting QB in the NFL. Granted, when the real bullets are flying Peterman sucks ? ⚾️s, but let’s stop acting like AJM could have even been the second coming of Josh McCown. He has 3 starts to his resume, so there’s no overwhelming wisdom he would have imparted upon Allen. He’s no great loss. If Allen goes down the season is eff’d whether AJM is here or not.

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Considering he is a 5th year vet, he was the worst player on the field for over half of the 4th preseason game against players not likely to stay in the league, and he looked like ?? against the Browns. He had by far the worst showing of any of the QBs in camp in preseason. Not a great look for someone who thought he should be a starting QB in the NFL. Granted, when the real bullets are flying Peterman sucks ? ⚾️s, but let’s stop acting like AJM could have even been the second coming of Josh McCown. He has 3 starts to his resume, so there’s no overwhelming wisdom he would have imparted upon Allen. He’s no great loss. If Allen goes down the season is eff’d whether AJM is here or not.

I think I would feel more comfortable with McCarron backing up Allen than Peterman. I really think Peterman might be one of the worst QBs in the history of the NFL

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3 minutes ago, Seanbillsfan2206 said:

I think I would feel more comfortable with McCarron backing up Allen than Peterman. I really think Peterman might be one of the worst QBs in the history of the NFL

 

No disagreement from me on Peterman. His noodle arm pick in the playoff game was enough for me to close the book. I just don’t think AJM is much of an upgrade, and they managed a 5th for him in trade.

 

I don’t think there’s much value in unsigned FA’s right now so I think they’ll ride Allen, and if it looks like he might actually get the team into playoff contention then maybe they try to find a better option as a backup, but barring that I think they save the cap space and suffer the consequences if he gets hurt. 

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On 9/26/2018 at 10:55 PM, ExiledInIllinois said:

Good thing You didn't say Patriots**/49ers because they also sent a "failed" QB to the Raiders: Jim Plunkett.

Raiders made it to the NFL elites of historical franchises with "failed" Quarterbacks. 

15. Schroeder, failed Redskins QB was that poor guy that got his *** kicked by the 90s Bills in the AFC championship.

2. Jim Plunkett flunked the Patriots and won a SB and SB MVP

1. Career flunky Rich Gannon won MVP (what?!?) And lost in the SB to his longtime coach that knew the poor guy inside out.. and just got crushed by one of the best seasons ever.

 

Ain't a bad thing to work at Free Agents rather than always banking on the draft. Impressed how the Cardinals found success with Warner and Palmer.. then again not many teams have Larry (or JERRY FRIGGIN RICE FOR GANNON) baffles me how people can say a quarterback makes the recievers when many Quarterbacks just need the reciever to make them.

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29 minutes ago, Tcali said:

EJ was comically bad.

2 games 250 yards 1 TD, 1 INT with Cooper dropping the ball so much it made ESPN talk about it lol. Like not good. But those stats scream hyperbole for "comically bad" lol. By that definition, 70% of backups are comedically bad.

 

He must have especially sucked in practice but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt between him and lunatic Gruden.

 

And he probably sucks because he is still a FA *cough*PETERMAN* but there are a couple of teams that have seen worse from their backups in 2 games. 

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