Big C Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 1 hour ago, ShadyBillsFan said: imo a 3-0 team shouldn't be below TWO 1-1-1 teams, one that just blew the biggest upset in 23 years and the other needed Fitz to well be Fitz with 3 first half INT's to get its first W. So as worthy as it is a read, it has flaws They all have flaws. I just think Harrison's content is on the whole far and above the others. He really knows the game and its history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comebackkid Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 NFL. Com has us at 27 and pats I believe at 13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 25, 2018 Author Share Posted September 25, 2018 I'm waiting for the hater Pete Prisco's HOT take I checked earlier and week 4 wasn't posted 1 hour ago, no name said: could go nowhere but up...need to win those conference/division games. I think Copy and Paste has a thread on that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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billsbackto81 Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 6 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: I'm waiting for the hater Pete Prisco's HOT take I checked earlier and week 4 wasn't posted I think Copy and Paste has a thread on that https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-week-4-power-rankings-rams-chiefs-take-top-spots-thanks-to-high-octane-offenses/ #27 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 Power Rankings and a dollar’ll get ya a cup of coffee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 25, 2018 Author Share Posted September 25, 2018 7 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-week-4-power-rankings-rams-chiefs-take-top-spots-thanks-to-high-octane-offenses/ #27 Up 5 .... which means ... Bills Give them a ton of credit for an impressive road victory at Minnesota. They have their quarterback in Josh Allen. 5 minutes ago, 4_kidd_4 said: Power Rankings and a dollar’ll get ya a cup of coffee. Not at Starbucks lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleeby Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 I think we prefer to forget just how bad the bills looked those first two games and are giving more weight to the viking's game because. . .we're fans. Heh. Rankings are silly anyhow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 25, 2018 Author Share Posted September 25, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, jo39416 said: Damn you caught that before I realized that was a HUGE mistake I delete my mistake and FWIW that 15 was when the Bills were 3-2 with TuhRrod after the Falcons win Edited September 25, 2018 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 After a longitudinal study examining the impact power rankings have on the outcome of NFL games .... no direct correlation has been found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 I dont even look at power rankings anymore- they are useless and a ioke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 25, 2018 Author Share Posted September 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: I dont even look at power rankings anymore- they are useless and a ioke. hence the title Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jo39416 Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 14 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Damn you caught that before I realized that was a HUGE mistake I delete my mistake and FWIW that 15 was when the Bills were 3-2 with TuhRrod after the Falcons win I too shall then delete it - I was like WTF 15?? Then I saw the font from the page and was like wait a second... we didnt play the Broncos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: hence the title Yeppers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 25, 2018 Author Share Posted September 25, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, jo39416 said: I too shall then delete it - I was like WTF 15?? Then I saw the font from the page and was like wait a second... we didnt play the Broncos I thought it was a typo and they meant Denver was 15. then I saw Sept 26 2017 damn internet. you just can't trust it Edited September 25, 2018 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 Anyone can make their own power rankings. The idea should be to list the entire league in one big Division, by record, making some slight adjustments for factors based on which teams have played which, home/away/injuries etc. Feel Free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 What i find funny is they go back and forth between it being by results of games or talent on the team. They pick and choose what suites them best. I have no problem with Bills being in the late 20's Talent level hasn't changed we still have a lot of holes . NE should be much lower, they simply have looked like crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonabb Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 (edited) This is why I hate reporters trying to use data to make a point. And also their misinterpretation of the value of analytics. They cherry pick and use data to lie and support their argument. Which of these trends would you prefer (sorry for the bad resolution, working on a laptop without my standard programs). Anyway, one is the actual completion percentage trend. One is the trend the reporter would have us believe is the case, one would be our worst nightmare. So the garbage argument about the completion percentage fails to take into consideration any temporal reality. Garbage. More reason to ignore power rankings, especially teams at the bottom since the people doing them don't put much effort into their lazy analysis. Edited September 26, 2018 by zonabb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 26, 2018 Author Share Posted September 26, 2018 I have no idea what that chart is saying 19 hours ago, Big C said: The only power rankings worth reading are Elliott Harrison's at NFL.com http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000966398/article/nfl-power-rankings-week-4-rams-chiefs-rise-above-chaos He's got the Pats at 13 and the Bills up to 27. Previous rank: No. 32 Call it the most stunning result in the NFL regular season in years -- maybe since the Chiefs routed the Patriots on "Monday Night Football" back in 2014. Actually, not sure even that outcome was as eye-opening as the Bills stampeding the hapless Vikings. While your friendly hack writer was among the many who predicted a Minnesota win, that same article mentioned (multiple times) that turnovers could be the single factor to even out the tremendous disadvantage Buffalo faced coming into Sunday's game. Josh Allen faced the usual fire drill up front on several plays, but he still managed to perform efficiently as a passer whilst running for two scores. The Edwin Moses actwas spectacular, man. Somewhere, Joe Ferguson must be proud. #BILLS Love that he called himself a hack writer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd1 Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 21 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said: http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/24785984/nfl-power-rankings-fatal-flaws-all-32-teams-2018-week-4 6. New England Patriots Record: 1-2 Week 3 ranking: 4 The Patriots rank 31st in receiving yards from WR (230). New England has just one catch this season that went for 30 yards, a 30-yard reception by TE Rob Gronkowski in Week 1. -- Masi 8. Miami Dolphins Record: 3-0 Week 3 ranking: 16 The Dolphins average the third-lowest time of possession per game (26:46). That could be because their opponents convert on 80 percent of their third-down rushes, tied for the second-highest rate in the NFL. -- Koontz ... What a !@#$ing joke!!! They must be grading this like college ball. The Pats have been playing like ****. RIGHT NOW Miami deserves the better spot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 21 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said: a counter point if you will If Cleveland had the better all around team why were they w/o a W until the JETS and way was Tyrod benched? they don't pay attention. They just write the crap that comes to mind w/o any read research. Biggest point spread blowout in 23 years!!!! To be fair to their stat... the second half saw the bills 3 and out on 3 out of 5 (60%) so its not like that actually had a major swing on this.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 26, 2018 Author Share Posted September 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, NoSaint said: To be fair to their stat... the second half saw the bills 3 and out on 3 out of 5 (60%) so its not like that actually had a major swing on this.... Many teams would play it safe and not run up the score. (like he mumbling grouch). Sure, I would have liked to see more "action" from the Bills but the way Josh was playing I'd prefer he didn't need to be hurdling 6'5" players. Hell there were a few times I wondered why they didn't go for a 50 yard FG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 26, 2018 Author Share Posted September 26, 2018 1 hour ago, cd1 said: What a !@#$ing joke!!! They must be grading this like college ball. The Pats have been playing like ****. RIGHT NOW Miami deserves the better spot. Poor Tom... do you feel for him? no f'n way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 The key to deciphering these rankings is understanding that a 1-2 team can be better than a 2-1 team. If you want to see teams ranked by win/loss records, you can open any newspaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 27, 2018 Author Share Posted September 27, 2018 20 hours ago, QCity said: The key to deciphering these rankings is understanding that a 1-2 team can be better than a 2-1 team. If you want to see teams ranked by win/loss records, you can open any newspaper. yes a team that is 1-2 can be better than a 2-1 team. Things I would factor it Who did they play How close was the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 On September 25, 2018 at 11:00 AM, H2o said: Meanwhile, at ESPN headquarters....... Must be Nick Wright from First Things First under the makeup!! He still calls the Bills the worst team in NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 On 9/25/2018 at 10:32 AM, ShadyBillsFan said: 1-2 and 1-1-1 teams way higher than undefeated teams. SMH. These things get run like a popularity contest. Cleveland up 5 Bills up 2. again SMH Miami hasnt beat anyone worth a damn yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 Hey the Bills are ahead of Alabama now!!! winning !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 Power Rankings are click-bait. It's popularity contests mixed with a few intentional head-scratchers just to prompt comments. Browns are the darlings of the NFL, have been since the offseason. People want them to do well with Mayfield, so they spike up. Buffalo is supposed to be the new Browns, the hard luck team. Therefore they only rose a little. The rankings really don't reflect how good they think the teams actually are. It's all about fitting a narritive laid out before the season began. Unless it's another blowout, don't expect the Bills to rise much even with a win over the Pack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 28, 2018 Author Share Posted September 28, 2018 I saw one NFL “writer” with the Bills @ 30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 9, 2018 Author Share Posted October 9, 2018 http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/24933106/nfl-power-rankings-picking-toughest-games-all-32-teams 18. Cleveland Browns Record: 2-2-1Week 5 ranking: 23 Rest-of-season SOS ranking: 2nd. The Browns toughest remaining game is Week 8 at the Steelers, where they have a 16 percent chance to win, according to FPI. Cleveland has already tied the Steelers this season, and they are the only team in NFL history to be tied at some point in the fourth quarter of each of their first five games in a season. -- Clawson 28. New York Giants Record: 1-4Week 5 ranking: 28 Rest-of-season SOS ranking: 25th. According to FPI, the Giants' toughest game left on their schedule falls in Week 12 in a matchup against the Eagles in Philadelphia. FPI gives the Giants a 28 percent chance to beat the Eagles, something they've done only once in their past eight tries. -- Shah 29. Buffalo Bills Record: 2-3Week 5 ranking: 31 Rest-of-season SOS ranking: 30th. The Bills' toughest remaining game will be in Week 16 in New England, where FPI gives them a 13 percent chance to beat the Patriots. However, the Bills upset the Vikings in Week 3 despite having just a 9 percent chance to win, the biggest NFL upset since 2009, according to FPI. -- Koontz These idiots can't even read a schedule. Week 8 on MNF vs New England in Buffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dma0034 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 1 minute ago, ShadyBillsFan said: http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/24933106/nfl-power-rankings-picking-toughest-games-all-32-teams 18. Cleveland Browns Record: 2-2-1Week 5 ranking: 23 Rest-of-season SOS ranking: 2nd. The Browns toughest remaining game is Week 8 at the Steelers, where they have a 16 percent chance to win, according to FPI. Cleveland has already tied the Steelers this season, and they are the only team in NFL history to be tied at some point in the fourth quarter of each of their first five games in a season. -- Clawson 28. New York Giants Record: 1-4Week 5 ranking: 28 Rest-of-season SOS ranking: 25th. According to FPI, the Giants' toughest game left on their schedule falls in Week 12 in a matchup against the Eagles in Philadelphia. FPI gives the Giants a 28 percent chance to beat the Eagles, something they've done only once in their past eight tries. -- Shah 29. Buffalo Bills Record: 2-3Week 5 ranking: 31 Rest-of-season SOS ranking: 30th. The Bills' toughest remaining game will be in Week 16 in New England, where FPI gives them a 13 percent chance to beat the Patriots. However, the Bills upset the Vikings in Week 3 despite having just a 9 percent chance to win, the biggest NFL upset since 2009, according to FPI. -- Koontz These idiots can't even read a schedule. Week 8 on MNF vs New England in Buffalo Harder to beat New England at their place 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 9, 2018 Author Share Posted October 9, 2018 Just now, dma0034 said: Harder to beat New England at their place True, but he should still have mentioned the GOAT's* twice. The Giants look like a HOT mess. And WTF is happening to the AFCN? is Cleveland really 11 spots better? jmo (of course) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Smith Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 ESPN ranking system is a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) I checked a couple of these quickly this morning. Of course some of them very. ...and of course they are a joke. However, I just want to be clear about this. I state this calmly. This is not directed at you Bills fans, this is at some of the guys making the list. They might want to lean a little closer to their computer or ipad screens to make sure you are reading this correctly. As bad as you might think the Bills may be the 49ers and Colts are not better teams than them. Not...OK. Seriously...seriously, just think about it and you will find that to be true. Edited October 9, 2018 by dollars 2 donuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 49 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: True, but he should still have mentioned the GOAT's* twice. The Giants look like a HOT mess. And WTF is happening to the AFCN? is Cleveland really 11 spots better? jmo (of course) They're literally just stating which game the team has the lowest chance to win. The game in New England is a lower probability than the game in Buffalo; that's all they're saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 56 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: True, but he should still have mentioned the GOAT's* twice. The Giants look like a HOT mess. And WTF is happening to the AFCN? is Cleveland really 11 spots better? jmo (of course) ....maybe Haslam paid the Russian judge?.......just askin'............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....maybe Haslam paid the Russian judge?.......just askin'............... Cleveland is a quality coaching staff away from being a very, very good football team. Once Hue Jackson and Gregggg are canned and replaced they’ll be a playoff team. It won’t happen this season but look for it next. Mayfield is the real deal and they’ve got some real talent on their defense. Garrett and Ward will be their cornerstones for years to come. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 21 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: Cleveland is a quality coaching staff away from being a very, very good football team. Once Hue Jackson and Gregggg are canned and replaced they’ll be a playoff team. It won’t happen this season but look for it next. Mayfield is the real deal and they’ve got some real talent on their defense. Garrett and Ward will be their cornerstones for years to come. ...moving up 11 is a quantum leap....thus a little joke........they slowly do have the makings of a potentially good team as you said..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 26 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: Cleveland is a quality coaching staff away from being a very, very good football team. Once Hue Jackson and Gregggg are canned and replaced they’ll be a playoff team. It won’t happen this season but look for it next. Mayfield is the real deal and they’ve got some real talent on their defense. Garrett and Ward will be their cornerstones for years to come. They are a decent kicker and ridiculous official reversal from being 4-1. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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