ColoradoBills Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Receiving Statistics Player Rec Yds Yds/Rec Long TD Zay Jones 6 106 17.7 57 0 Kelvin Benjamin 6 58 9.7 16 1 Jason Croom 5 51 10.2 26 1 LeSean McCoy 5 28 5.6 9 0 Chris Ivory 4 100 25.0 55 0 Charles Clay 4 47 11.8 21 0 Andre Holmes 4 43 10.8 22 0 Logan Thomas 2 31 15.5 24 0 Robert Foster 2 30 15.0 19 0 Marcus Murphy 2 8 4.0 7 0 Jeremy Kerley 2 7 3.5 4 0 Patrick DiMarco 1 24 24.0 24 0 Ray-Ray McCloud 1 6 6.0 6 0 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 7 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: If they weren’t good enough to be re-signed here, they weren’t good enough. Except there are players that were good but didn't receive another contract from us (Robert Woods) and players that were traded (Sammy and Darby). Plus, the drafts before the 2017 draft were less talented. The 2017 class is clearly more talented than the previous handful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 He had a catch for a big play and first down so that’s something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 25 minutes ago, Augie said: Hyperbole much? Mike Williams? Maybin? Zay isn’t even close.... Seriously. THIS C'mon OP - try to make a little sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 25 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: We will need a top FA wr and top draft wr next year Good luck with that. Golden Tate is the best avail for 2019. We need to draft one with our #1rd pick. I think we should take a run at Tevin Coleman. ATL drafted Ito Smith this year and there's a lot of targets going around in ATL. Coleman could be our Kamara. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Perusing the post-game thread, GBiD posted the biggest busts in living memory.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 24, 2018 Author Share Posted September 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: Um, he's leading the Bills in receptions and yards. WHAT That’s bananas. The invisible man leading the team. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 15 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: EJ is the biggest bust the Bills have had. The guy was the single worst qb in the nfl for most of his time on the team and was the first qb drafted that year. Zay does suck so far though. It’s a shame knowing we had Sammy, Hogan, Woods and Goodwin all together...kept none and did nothing when we had them. That’s a testament to just how bad our passing games were with Tyrod. The only QB that used them was Orton. Again - EJ isn't close to Mike Williams or Maybin - how old are some of these posters?? 10?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 26 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: He has not been good.....but you have a very short memory if you think he is the biggest bust.....PLENTY of 1st round picks have busted out on this team in the past..... Maybin Flowers etc etc Losman McCargo EJ Manuel Hyperbole much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 24, 2018 Author Share Posted September 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, Buffalo30 said: Except there are players that were good but didn't receive another contract from us (Robert Woods) and players that were traded (Sammy and Darby). Plus, the drafts before the 2017 draft were less talented. The 2017 class is clearly more talented than the previous handful. ??? Kiko was DROY runner-up just like White, and Woods and Goodwin looked to be regulars in the NFL. How is that “less talented” than 2017? I admit, we didn’t have the Peterman star in 2013, but EJM was probably better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinTheMagician Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Brandon Reilly is a baller. White has nothing to do with it. And I would take Streater ahead of KB and Foster too. Thank goodness we at least kept Ray Ray. Why did they keep Kerley? KB no different - they ain't signing him. Develop Reilly and even Proehl. I think Foster is garbage but at least he has upside. They flat should have kept Reilly though. White boy can play - chalking it up to him being white is stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 26 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: In living memory. No one cares about 1st round busts from 1975. OK - I'm out. You just slid right into full-on TROLL territory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: Receiving Statistics Player Rec Yds Yds/Rec Long TD Zay Jones 6 106 17.7 57 0 Kelvin Benjamin 6 58 9.7 16 1 Jason Croom 5 51 10.2 26 1 LeSean McCoy 5 28 5.6 9 0 Chris Ivory 4 100 25.0 55 0 Charles Clay 4 47 11.8 21 0 Andre Holmes 4 43 10.8 22 0 Logan Thomas 2 31 15.5 24 0 Robert Foster 2 30 15.0 19 0 Marcus Murphy 2 8 4.0 7 0 Jeremy Kerley 2 7 3.5 4 0 Patrick DiMarco 1 24 24.0 24 0 Ray-Ray McCloud 1 6 6.0 6 0 Sure, someone had to chime in with those silly ”facts”. Geez, way to ruin the bashing! ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 You lost me completely when you invoked the name of TJumptomakeacatchGraham. C'mon man. I'm one of Zay's biggest detractors, but he's balling and catching passes thrown his way. He's earned some slack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 This poster also does not remember how bad eric moulds was his first two years combined for less than 50 catches. His mom actually called him out for not working hard enough. Give it time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 24, 2018 Author Share Posted September 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Freddie's Dead said: You lost me completely when you invoked the name of TJumptomakeacatchGraham. C'mon man. I'm one of Zay's biggest detractors, but he's balling and catching passes thrown his way. He's earned some slack. He’s “balling?” ???! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 If you're, like, a year old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 36 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: Could anyone be more invisible out there? Yeah, Benjamin is in self-preservation mode and going half speed on half of his plays, but Zay is trying his best. That’s horrific. There is 0.0 chance this guy makes it out of TC next year. We took him over JuJu. Damn. I’d rather have TJ Graham. After today...who the !@#$ is complaining?????? Wtf???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Mike Williams and E.J. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: He’s “balling?” ???! <sigh> He's the leading receiver on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Who has it been confirmed by who?? Batman?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: He’s “balling?” ???! If you were to replace “balling” with “outperforming his competition”, then sadly yes, despite limited opportunities. I get it, it’s been disappointing, but lets enjoy this win and keep our eyes on the horizon. Give him more chances, we may see more production. But see the chart above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: ??? Kiko was DROY runner-up just like White, and Woods and Goodwin looked to be regulars in the NFL. How is that “less talented” than 2017? I admit, we didn’t have the Peterman star in 2013, but EJM was probably better? Goodwin has played one good season. He never looked like a regular with Buffalo. It will take a few years to see how everyone turns out but right now, Dawkins looks like our LT of the future and White looks like a shutdown corner and Milano is playing like he'll be an important piece in the middle of the defense. Time will tell but as of right now I believe it's better than the 2013 class. Edited September 24, 2018 by Buffalo30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Just now, transplantbillsfan said: No Succinct, I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Hopefully Allen develops some chemistry with Zay. Both are super young in this league and there is plenty of time for them to grow together. The kid caught everything thrown his way in college. I'm willing to give this a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, BobChalmers said: Again - EJ isn't close to Mike Williams or Maybin - how old are some of these posters?? 10?? Nothing to do with age. What was maybin going to mean to this team? He was a late top 10 Dlineman. It’s not crazy to think you don’t get a ton out of him. I never cared for a second about him not panning out. Mike Williams was a big deal and it sucked that he struggled. He ended up being okay later on but he was up there with EJ. Ej was a QB. That’s a whole different animal. To draft a Qb in round 1, the first qb off the board and to have him never get better from day 1 is worse IMO. You take a guy that everyone else says is going in round 4, 16th overall. Hand him opportunity after opportunity and waste seasons with talented rosters. The guy never got any better from his first day in Buffalo. He has the worst footwork or any qb I have ever seen at this level and is the only passer close to as bad as Tebow. It’s just different to me when it’s a QB that you keep shoving down the coaches throat. Ej was a complete waste and when you think about what you expect from a first round Qb, he’s a bigger bust then the other 2. Edited September 24, 2018 by Brianmoorman4jesus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 24, 2018 Author Share Posted September 24, 2018 10 minutes ago, Buffalo30 said: Goodwin has played one good season. He never looked like a regular with Buffalo. It will take a few years to see how everyone turns out but right now, Dawkins looks like our LT of the future and White looks like a shutdown corner and Milano is playing like he'll be an important piece in the middle of the defense. Time will tell but as of right now I believe it's better than the 2013 class. If you judged the 2013 class after one year (like you’re judging the 2017 class), we had two solid WR’s, a starting QB and a defensive cornerstone. What does NFL stand for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 1 minute ago, BringBackOrton said: If you judged the 2013 class after one year (like you’re judging the 2017 class), we had two solid WR’s, a starting QB and a defensive cornerstone. What does NFL stand for? Goodwin had 17 catches...that's not a solid wr and what did EJ do in his first year to make anyone believe he was the next franchise QB? That's just ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 24, 2018 Author Share Posted September 24, 2018 12 minutes ago, Buffalo30 said: Goodwin had 17 catches...that's not a solid wr and what did EJ do in his first year to make anyone believe he was the next franchise QB? That's just ridiculous. He was our starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: He was our starter. Sure he was but that doesn't mean he looked like the next franchise QB. Kelly Holcomb was also a start for us once, did anyone consider him the next franchise QB when he was? Nope. Milano, White and Dawkins actually have talent. Edited September 24, 2018 by Buffalo30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 24, 2018 Author Share Posted September 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, Buffalo30 said: Sure he was but that doesn't mean he looked like the next franchise QB. Kelly Holcomb was also a start for us once, did anyone consider him the next franchise QB when he was? Nope. Milano, White and Dawkins actually have talent. Who said franchise QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 1 hour ago, BringBackOrton said: Could anyone be more invisible out there? Yeah, Benjamin is in self-preservation mode and going half speed on half of his plays, but Zay is trying his best. That’s horrific. There is 0.0 chance this guy makes it out of TC next year. We took him over JuJu. Damn. I’d rather have TJ Graham. TJ Graham? Seriously? You got a short memory Me, I'm gonna wait until I see the all-22 and see what they were asking Jones to do. The bits I was able to see on the televised film, I saw him laying a competent block that enabled Rayray to pick up 5 yds on a quick dump pass. I saw him running a crosser with quick separation on a play where Allen was sacked. I saw him running a fake end-around correctly and with good timing. I saw him open on a short slant to the right sideline where Allen was looking L for Ivory all the way. There were at least 2 plays where he was running deeper than the televised window and I couldn't see what route he ran or whether or not he was open. And that's just in the first 2 min of the 33 minute condensed game. So yeah, I would have to say someone could be more invisible out there. I can't explain why he's apparently not visible to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Just now, BringBackOrton said: Who said franchise QB? He was a bad QB lol. That's not a positive out of a draft class. Just because he is a starter doesn't mean anything. Dawkins, White and Milano are PRODUCTIVE starters who have continued to progress into year 2 so far. Keep trying man but you're really grasping at straws here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyal2dagame Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Zay Jones? 3rd overall pick Mike Williams drove his car into a ditch near the stadium. His career soon followed. Now he was a bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 1 hour ago, BringBackOrton said: Could anyone be more invisible out there? Yeah, Benjamin is in self-preservation mode and going half speed on half of his plays, but Zay is trying his best. That’s horrific. There is 0.0 chance this guy makes it out of TC next year. We took him over JuJu. Damn. I’d rather have TJ Graham. Oh no you wouldn't. TJ Graham played for the Montreal Alouettes in the CFL and was god awful, dropping crucial passes left and right until they cut him in August. As poor as Zay as been, He's miles better than Graham. I am amazed that he is even still playing after that mental breakdown he had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Benjamin isnt in self preservation mode, quite opposite:: he's in a contract year, the biggest "show me" season of his career, and he's playing dreadful football. Lazy route running, stone hands, half assed blocking. I called for him to be benched last week, what is it going to take? Seriously, do our coaches not have a better option than this clown? Come on man. He had two good years about 4 catches.er game avg with Cam and a lot of other weapons, but he's shown Carolina and us what he really is over and over again. Beane missed on that dude. End this bull **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Isn’t Zay supposed to be fast? Why aren’t we even trying to send him deep? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 2 hours ago, BringBackOrton said: Could anyone be more invisible out there? Yeah, Benjamin is in self-preservation mode and going half speed on half of his plays, but Zay is trying his best. That’s horrific. There is 0.0 chance this guy makes it out of TC next year. We took him over JuJu. Damn. I’d rather have TJ Graham. How many weeks of history are you counting for this conclusion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 All our WRs really had a poor game...Why single out Jones...Benjamin dropped a TD and so did Clay and Foster would have walked in to the end zone if he makes that catch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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