billsbackto81 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Wow, him and Roquan Smith will prove to be quite formidable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: And that it certainly why the Bills were in the mix here. I think they believe that too, but they need to know who they are and where they are too before they dance on the yacht with red wine and cigars and no OL or WR to provide their hopeful franchise QB. Fair enough but this is going to be a long season - not sure the fans are ready for it. Beane gets through the next offseason to show progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: We have been chasing contender status for what, two and a half decades? At some point you need to accumulate talent and try to win games. If this was happening this time next season, I’d agree but the Bills have no idea what they have in Allen, yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Crazy. Two 1sts, a player, and paying him $22.5M/year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Jim Miller is thrilled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Doc said: Crazy. Two 1sts, a player, and paying him $22.5M/year. They are trying to WIN GAMES. The Bills should consider it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 7 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: I think we traded for Kelvin Benjamin and required giving up draft picks. Yeah. That was a very nice thing to see and I give them credit for that. It wasn’t a high pick and it doesn’t happen very often. We also did much more trading of our players for picks before that and had extra. I am more speaking of trading a high pick for big time players not mid or late round picks for guys that we might not even keep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george c Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 This is the best Bills pass in a long time. Too big of a price for one non QP player.. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said: Wow, him and Roquan Smith will prove to be quite formidable. Or they wont because maybe the DE position continues to be schemed against to have less and less impact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Even if Beane offered two 1st rounders, I’m sure Oakland would’ve still taken Chicago’s offer to get him out of AFC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 I guess Bills fans have to ask themselves ... Ed Oliver/Nick Bosa 2020 1st round pick $24 million in cap space or Kahlil Mack 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McNubbins Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 11 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Reports are “More than two 1st round picks” Two firsts and a player, I think. A big ask. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: They are trying to WIN GAMES. The Bills should consider it. Their GM is on the hot seat. And about to he fired. So yeah use capital he might not be around to use Just now, McNubbins said: Two firsts and a player, I think. A big ask. WAY to much for a NON QB 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 minute ago, TheTruthHurts said: I guess Bills fans have to ask themselves ... Ed Oliver/Nick Bosa 2020 1st round pick $24 million in cap space or Kahlil Mack Mack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, McNubbins said: Two firsts and a player, I think. A big ask. ...pretty much thought McBeane would get "alligator arms" in his reach out........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 11 minutes ago, DJB said: Two firsts and a player? Wow! Think about all of our 1st round picks over the last 15 years. How many pairs of them would you take over Mack? People need to stop overvaluing draft picks. Get good players. We have plenty of draft picks left over after these trades and we never pick the right guys anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george c Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Virgil said: Mack I’ll take a rookie on a rookie deal, along with a couple of FA offensive linemen for less money.. Over valuing draft picks? It’s not about picks, it’s about capital management. So, If Mack goes down in a week with a torn ACL, then what? yeah, big problems.. Edited September 1, 2018 by George C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 If he puts up 15 sacks a year for 5 years do people think it’s worth it? Absolutely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 16 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Good luck with that. The Bills still won't meet the Raiders price with so many upcoming needs on the offensive side of the ball. I just want to live the dream for a few more moments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Think about all of our 1st round picks over the last 15 years. How many pairs of them would you take over Mack? People need to stop overvaluing draft picks. Get good players. We have plenty of draft picks left over after these trades and we never pick the right guys anyway. I agree, but I do think beane is a much better drafter than previous gm's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Just now, Steptide said: I agree, but I do think beane is a much better drafter than previous gm's. Based on what? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Think about all of our 1st round picks over the last 15 years. How many pairs of them would you take over Mack? People need to stop overvaluing draft picks. Get good players. We have plenty of draft picks left over after these trades and we never pick the right guys anyway. People meed to stop undervalue 1st round picks and their 5 year cost controlled contract. Sorry that is way to much to ask for a non QB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Who needs Khalil Mack? We have the dynamic pass-rushing duo of Trent Murphy and Shaq Lawson. Pardon me while I go jump into Lake Erie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Just now, Steptide said: I agree, but I do think beane is a much better drafter than previous gm's. How could anyone be worse? And technically this is his only draft class and they have played 0 games. So how can I know? They also took the qb I wanted the least. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george c Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: People meed to stop undervalue 1st round picks and their 5 year cost controlled contract. Sorry that is way to much to ask for a non QB Exactly.. and who is to say that Mack doesn’t develop Albert Haynesworth disease with all of that guaranteed money he is about to receive... Edited September 1, 2018 by George C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Just now, MAJBobby said: People meed to stop undervalue 1st round picks and their 5 year cost controlled contract. Sorry that is way to much to ask for a non QB Its not “people” it’s the Bills. They use them on non-elite players who they then don’t want to pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Just now, Coach Tuesday said: Based on what? Oh i donno. Tre, dion, FINALLY taking a top 10 qb, trumaine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Just now, joesixpack said: Oh i donno. Tre, dion, FINALLY taking a top 10 qb, trumaine Tre and Dawkins were not drafted by Beane. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said: Its not “people” it’s the Bills. They use them on non-elite players who they then don’t want to pay. Do they? Lets see Trey White how is he doing so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: How could anyone be worse? And technically this is his only draft class and they have played 0 games. So how can I know? They also took the qb I wanted the least. For all the Whaley hate nobody had more guys play in the nfl than he did compared to any other gm. The guy drafted nfl talent left and right 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Just now, Coach Tuesday said: Tre and Dawkins were not drafted by Beane. Disingenuous. Those were McDermott choices and he and beane are attached Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 The Bills offer was strong, just not strong enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co_springs_billsfan Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: People meed to stop undervalue 1st round picks and their 5 year cost controlled contract. Sorry that is way to much to ask for a non QB I agree with you, but Mack's cost controlled 5th year didn't result in any playtime with the raiders in this case. It did result in a big return tradewise though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Based on what? Passing on Watson and Zay > Juju ☠️☠️☠️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george c Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Just now, aristocrat said: For all the Whaley hate nobody had more guys play in the nfl than he did compared to any other gm. The guy drafted nfl talent left and right Child, please.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Just now, Kirby Jackson said: The Bills offer was strong, just not strong enough. Do we know what they offered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Tre and Dawkins were not drafted by Beane. They were drafted bu this regime. You can try and play that game all you want 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: People meed to stop undervalue 1st round picks and their 5 year cost controlled contract. Sorry that is way to much to ask for a non QB Undervalue? Do you follow nfl football? A first round pick is probably more important then 99% of the players in the league to every gm. You literally can probably get any player in the league besides Arron Rogers for 2 firsts, which is ridiculous. For every 20 first round picks we make, we might get 3 really good players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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