Brianmoorman4jesus Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 I think we should sign Kendall Wright and get rid of Foster. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 13 minutes ago, billspro said: Croom has looked legit, I wouldn’t be surprised if he was Clays replacement. That has to be the thinking at this point. Groom Croom for a year to see if he can be the replacement, because Clay is not on the Bills roster in ‘19 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 2 hours ago, billsredneck1 said: none of the other tight ends won the best te in the nation in college. his dependability will be severely missed if clay goes down. i've been behind my faith in this mcfo from the beginning but..... when i see a new regime seem to find a way to purge every player from the old regime, red flags start flying...... it seems as tho they are purposely disregarding the body of work....the availability and reliability of some players for no other logical reason other than they didn't bring him here. oleary was a much needed piece on this offense and will be badly missed. i'm sorry i haven't been through all the cuts and news yet, but this is gonna bite us in the ass....for no good reason. What whaley players have they moved on from that looks like a big mistake now? Most of the moves, in hindsight, look ok to me. You have to remember that that we don’t know what goes on behind the scenes either. We don’t know how guys are performing in practice, or picking up the offense/defense, or even blowing their assignments unless it is obvious or we know the play call. I don’t really see any moves that were just to spite Whaley. They all seemed centered around performance, scheme and culture fit to me. There are are also a number of Whaley guys left on the roster, too - Washington, Clay, Schmidt, Hughes, Miller, Mills, McCoy, Alexander, Humber, Groy, Lawson. There was actually a really good article on this exact subject (getting rid of whaley guys) on buffalo rumblings a little while back. Check it out. It may help put your mind at ease a bit - https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2018/6/5/17409612/brandon-beane-sean-mcdermott-doug-whaley-guys-tyrod-taylor-marell-dareus-general-manager-coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 8 hours ago, scribo said: Well, since the cuts are announced and I was right - yes. So the coaches are going to cut Ducasse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 I predicted Coleman would be here at least 1 year due to $3.5M guaranteed. I predicted McCarron would be here at least 1 year due to $4M signing bonus I can only conclude myself and Ralph are cheap and Beane has the green light to go for it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 3 hours ago, Mark Vader said: So the coaches are going to cut Ducasse? What? No, I replied to someone who said Ducasse should not make the 53. I replied that he is not going to be cut from the team while the coaches believe he's the best guy on the roster at his position. That's where we are right now. You asked me if I am sure of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 The Foster thing is interesting. I’m not going to take the time to re-watch the preseason tape but it strikes me that he was getting open a lot but sometimes struggled with tracking the ball or making “natural” catches. They must believe he is coachable and will improve with experience. The athletic tools are obvious. I’m glad they took a chance with a guy like this over someone like Streater. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 13 hours ago, matter2003 said: OLeary made big plays in big situations for us in real games...thats something none of these other guys have done(maybe Clay) He may have but if you look at this regime from Carolina they had a prototype at TE and O'Leary ain't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Are folks really complaining about O’Leary’s release? He’s not a good blocker and caught all of 1.2 passes per game last year. It’s too bad we won’t see Fat Jack in a Bills hat any more but #thelegendofnickoleary isn’t a real thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpsredemption Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Jason Croom and Logan Thomas and their combined 7 NFL catches will be a treat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, Jpsredemption said: Jason Croom and Logan Thomas and their combined 7 NFL catches will be a treat. Almost as much of a treat as the four quarters our entire lineup of QBs has played in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 2, 2018 Author Share Posted September 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, Jpsredemption said: Jason Croom and Logan Thomas and their combined 7 NFL catches will be a treat. You seem upset about O'Leary. Should the team not afford opportunities for emerging talents and subsequently not reward them for outperforming other players? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 (edited) always thought DL Mario Edwards of the Raiders had game Edited September 2, 2018 by stuvian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 18 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: You seem upset about O'Leary. Should the team not afford opportunities for emerging talents and subsequently not reward them for outperforming other players? New players are never better than the guys you have. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgrochester55 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 48 minutes ago, eball said: Are folks really complaining about O’Leary’s release? He’s not a good blocker and caught all of 1.2 passes per game last year. It’s too bad we won’t see Fat Jack in a Bills hat any more but #thelegendofnickoleary isn’t a real thing. Not really complaining, but the O'Leary cut was the biggest surprise to me. O'Leary showed flashes in a couple of games last year and I think that he has a career ahead of him somewhere as a second tight end option. However, cuts like that happen on every team every year. If the Bills feel like Croom or Thomas are better fits for the team, I trust them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, dgrochester55 said: Not really complaining, but the O'Leary cut was the biggest surprise to me. O'Leary showed flashes in a couple of games last year and I think that he has a career ahead of him somewhere as a second tight end option. However, cuts like that happen on every team every year. If the Bills feel like Croom or Thomas are better fits for the team, I trust them. O’Leary was at his ceiling. Thomas and Croom offer more size and speed, and therefore create more mismatches. As a converted qb, the third year will be the charm for Thomas. I think Croom’s physique gives him the potential to develop into a complete package at the position. He very well could make clay expendable next year as some noted. As ive said elsewhere, this TE group will be the strength of the passing game, especially with a qb who sees the middle of the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 9 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I think we should sign Kendall Wright and get rid of Foster. If only to kill off some nuisance threads here on TBD-TSW... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 11 hours ago, John from Riverside said: I really dont have a way to prove this....but I think OLeary got cut because he did not come along as a blocker the way the bills wanted him to..... He makes catches....but so do the TE's that were kept....Logan Thomas came along as a blocker.....and he has all the prototype height....speed....size...etc etc Croom is a BIG wide receiver....they list him as a TE but he is really a H back....and it will be interesting to see how he does this year. O'Leary never had the wingspan...speed...etc etc that Croom obviously does have. As for Thomas > OLeary remember Thomas is a former QB who will likely play the Joe Webb role of emergency QB this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 2, 2018 Author Share Posted September 2, 2018 Just now, freddyjj said: As for Thomas > OLeary remember Thomas is a former QB who will likely play the Joe Webb role of emergency QB this year That could easily be Taiwan Jones if it's not Thomas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: That could easily be Taiwan Jones if it's not Thomas. Not aware that Taiwan has ever played QB. raiders used him as CB and RB. Logan Thomas actually played QB for the Cardinals when he came in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 2, 2018 Author Share Posted September 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, freddyjj said: Not aware that Taiwan has ever played QB. raiders used him as CB and RB. Logan Thomas actually played QB for the Cardinals when he came in the league. I was thinking about wildcat/read option scenarios for Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 (edited) gotcha - My premise is if Allen/Nate both went down in 1 game Logan Thomas could mop up if need be Edited September 2, 2018 by freddyjj 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 2, 2018 Author Share Posted September 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, freddyjj said: gotcha - My premise is if Allen/Nate both went down in 1 game Logan Thomas could mop up if need be Prediction: Thomas will run the Bills' version of Philly Special at some point this season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Smith Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 52 minutes ago, stuvian said: always thought DL Mario Edwards of the Raiders had game He also has a bad hip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgrochester55 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 25 minutes ago, TPS said: O’Leary was at his ceiling. Thomas and Croom offer more size and speed, and therefore create more mismatches. As a converted qb, the third year will be the charm for Thomas. I think Croom’s physique gives him the potential to develop into a complete package at the position. He very well could make clay expendable next year as some noted. As ive said elsewhere, this TE group will be the strength of the passing game, especially with a qb who sees the middle of the field. Agreed on Croom. He was off the radar, at least to me before the season, but could be quite a find. Thomas was clearly a project in the beginning, but he has made vast improvements and seems like a likeable person that is easy to get behind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 We have to kick the tires on Johnathan Cooper, right? Gotta be better than our guards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgrochester55 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 8 minutes ago, Domdab99 said: We have to kick the tires on Johnathan Cooper, right? Gotta be better than our guards. I don't know, but at one point, BBMB had quite the crowd clamoring for him as the must pick for us to draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxbomber21 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Bring in Cooper drop Vlad start Teller at LG 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 2, 2018 Author Share Posted September 2, 2018 Just now, Bronxbomber21 said: Bring in Cooper drop Vlad start Teller at LG Teller isn't ready to be a starter. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxbomber21 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Teller isn't ready to be a starter. Nether is Vald 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 2, 2018 Author Share Posted September 2, 2018 Just now, Bronxbomber21 said: Nether is Vald Who's arguing that? However, putting in a guy who isn't better doesn't solve the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 9 minutes ago, Bronxbomber21 said: Nether is Vald As long as Castillo is here, Ducasse will have a job , unfortunately. He must have compromising photos of Juan or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 (edited) 19 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Who's arguing that? However, putting in a guy who isn't better doesn't solve the problem. ...so then no to "Coop"?...... --Ian Rapoport of NFL Network reports the 49ers are releasing guard Jonathan Cooper, who signed a one-year, $4.9 million contract in the spring. The former first-round pick of the Cardinals had offseason knee surgery and was slow to work himself back into the fold throughout training camp and the preseason. Edited September 2, 2018 by OldTimeAFLGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 2, 2018 Author Share Posted September 2, 2018 1 minute ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...so then no to "Coop"?...... --Ian Rapoport of NFL Network reports the 49ers are releasing guard Jonathan Cooper, who signed a one-year, $4.9 million contract in the spring. The former first-round pick of the Cardinals had offseason knee surgery and was slow to work himself back into the fold throughout training camp and the preseason. I'd kick the tires on him for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: I'd kick the tires on him for sure. And knock him out for another couple weeks?! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 2, 2018 Author Share Posted September 2, 2018 Just now, Kelly the Dog said: And knock him out for another couple weeks?! That pesky knee! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Bronxbomber21 said: Bring in Cooper drop Vlad start Teller at LG I didn’t like what I saw from Teller. IMO he has a lot of work ahead of him to be starter caliber. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 18 minutes ago, Binghamton Beast said: I didn’t like what I saw from Teller. IMO he has a lot of work ahead of him to be starter caliber. ...is Klopfenstein still lookin' for work??........ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 2 hours ago, Bronxbomber21 said: Bring in Cooper drop Vlad start Teller at LG Did the Eagles release Chance Warmack, the other “generational” OG from the 2013 draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 2, 2018 Author Share Posted September 2, 2018 Giants awarded DE Mario Edwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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