Virgil Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Is it strange to anyone that we haven’t named our starters at key positions yet? The final preseason game is tomorrow. Also, if Peterman gets the nod, should he play longer tomorrow since he only got one game with the starters? I worry a little about the lack of cohesion amongst our offensive starters as we drag out the competition. I know that teams like the Rams rested everyone, but they played together all of last year with success. Our QB and offensive line need that cohesion time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 (edited) Whoever starts tommorow will not be the starter if the team follows the game plan that the NFL has used forever. Edited August 29, 2018 by Starr Almighty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 McDermott most likely won't name the starting QB until he has too, most likely the week of game day. He thinks it gives him an advantage. But I have news for him, behind this crappy o-line, it doesn't matter 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Just now, Dablitzkrieg said: McDermott most likely won't name the starting QB until he has too, most likely the week of game day. He thinks it gives him an advantage. But I have news for him, behind this crappy o-line, it doesn't matter There are things an OC can do to manipulate the offense in order to compensate for poor pass protection. I want to see this from Daboll. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Just now, Johnny Hammersticks said: There are things an OC can do to manipulate the offense in order to compensate for poor pass protection. I want to see this from Daboll. Damn right!! I expect every TE to chip consistently, but the interior scares the hell out of me. RPO's need to be in the playbook consistently as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 There is no penalty for saying a guy is starting and then not playing him. I’d announce the 3rd string qb as the starter and then start a different guy against the Ravens. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleeby Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 9 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: There is no penalty for saying a guy is starting and then not playing him. I’d announce the 3rd string qb as the starter and then start a different guy against the Ravens. Pretty sneaky, sis! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted August 29, 2018 Author Share Posted August 29, 2018 I’m not disagreeing with what any of you are saying, but it worries me that none of our QB’s have received the normal amount of starting reps so far this preseason and training camp nor has the entire offensive line and the season starts in 10 days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 21 minutes ago, Virgil said: Is it strange to anyone that we haven’t named our starters at key positions yet? The final preseason game is tomorrow. Also, if Peterman gets the nod, should he play longer tomorrow since he only got one game with the starters? I worry a little about the lack of cohesion amongst our offensive starters as we drag out the competition. I know that teams like the Rams rested everyone, but they played together all of last year with success. Our QB and offensive line need that cohesion time. I thought most of the coaches feel that they are getting that cohesion time more in TC than in the game. 20 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: McDermott most likely won't name the starting QB until he has too, most likely the week of game day. He thinks it gives him an advantage. But I have news for him, behind this crappy o-line, it doesn't matter That why as Lombardi and Romo have suggested they should let Allen play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, ganesh said: I thought most of the coaches feel that they are getting that cohesion time more in TC than in the game. That why as Lombardi and Romo have suggested they should let Allen play. I think Allen should start as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Murray Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 (edited) i think Josh Allen could start week 1 (cant argue w the logic if they choose JA) Nate Peterman should start week 1 (his preseason numbers are great. if he plays well tomorrow he will have earned the right IMHO) AJ McCarron will start week 1 (the coaches safety blanket and the perceived steadiest hand on a shaky ship -- will pick him to appease the vets on the team) Edited August 29, 2018 by Bill Murray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansLanda Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Do we really think someone as detail oriented as McD doesn't already know who his day one starter is? Just because he's humming and hawing over it with media doesn't mean a thing. Regardless of who gets the bulk of the load tomorrow, expect heavy doses of Cadet, Ford and Taiwan Jones via handoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 The only players on offense I'd have in street clothes tomorrow would be McCoy, Benjamin Murphy, Ivory and Clay. After that pitiful performance Sunday I'd have the starters on the o-line play a half, they need the work. If one or more of them look like garbage again, get Teller, Bodine or some guy from the stands in for them. All of the defensive starters should be in street clothes 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 53 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: There are things an OC can do to manipulate the offense in order to compensate for poor pass protection. I want to see this from Daboll. Bribe them to block better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Virgil said: I’m not disagreeing with what any of you are saying, but it worries me that none of our QB’s have received the normal amount of starting reps so far this preseason and training camp nor has the entire offensive line and the season starts in 10 days Dont worry. Trust the process. They know who the best guys are. I’d be more interested in them getting more of them in the trenches, particularly interior O line and end. Edited August 29, 2018 by Over 29 years of fanhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Starr Almighty said: Whoever starts tommorow will not be the starter if the team follows the game plan that the NFL has used forever. Not necessarily. I have seen starters play 1-2 series in game four quite often Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Damn right!! I expect every TE to chip consistently, but the interior scares the hell out of me. RPO's need to be in the playbook consistently as well I didnt see the first half mess but has anyone seen the RPO in the last 2 games at all? I have not. Perhaps the last 2 games were more about the OL then they were about QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullim4 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 58 minutes ago, Virgil said: I’m not disagreeing with what any of you are saying, but it worries me that none of our QB’s have received the normal amount of starting reps so far this preseason and training camp nor has the entire offensive line and the season starts in 10 days To me, this shows up with timing between the QB and the WR corps. The first team WR's don't seem to have developed any rhythm with any of the three quarterbacks, except maybe Peterman.... but Benjamin at least has some prior experience with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Is McCarron well enough to play? If so, he should start this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, Formerly Allan in MD said: Is McCarron well enough to play? If so, he should start this game. And the season. He's a veteran with more experience and a better track record than Peterman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 I'm glad this organization finally plugged the leaks that had plagued it since 2005. Murmurs and whispers about inter office feuds, leaked information. That all stopped last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 IMHO if McCarron gets start it will be to showcase him for a trade this weekend. Pretty good insurance for a backup needy team with a young starter (OAK and DAL) with playoff aspirations. Could see McD and Beane going with NP early in the season and then switching to Josh after the bye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Just now, freddyjj said: IMHO if McCarron gets start it will be to showcase him for a trade this weekend. Pretty good insurance for a backup needy team with a young starter (OAK and DAL) with playoff aspirations. Could see McD and Beane going with NP early in the season and then switching to Josh after the bye. Why would they trade him? With this OL they need 3 QBs. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 19 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: Not necessarily. I have seen starters play 1-2 series in game four quite often The QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Sky Diver said: Why would they trade him? With this OL they need 3 QBs. Please see attached. OBD could get OL, CB or LB help in a trade. More valuable than your 3rd string QB https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2018/8/29/17795228/financial-ramifications-moving-aj-mccarron-off-the-buffalo-bills-roster-nathan-peterman-josh-allen Edited August 29, 2018 by freddyjj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 2 hours ago, freddyjj said: Please see attached. OBD could get OL, CB or LB help in a trade. More valuable than your 3rd string QB https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2018/8/29/17795228/financial-ramifications-moving-aj-mccarron-off-the-buffalo-bills-roster-nathan-peterman-josh-allen Provided that you don't have injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Sky Diver said: Provided that you don't have injuries. The trend now in the NFL is to have two QBs on the 53 and an emergency QB. Logan Thomas may make roster because he could be the 3rd QB and dress every week. Its what the Bills did last year. Oakland/Gruden may be a better place for AJ anyways. And we know Gruden loves him some NP. Either guy could be sent out west Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctk232 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 4 hours ago, Virgil said: Is it strange to anyone that we haven’t named our starters at key positions yet? The final preseason game is tomorrow. This is every indication of how the season will likely go, especially without either trench worth anything. I feel like teams that have "QB controversies" or "position battles" never really pan out during the subsequent season. There's no consistency, routine, or practice to build from to carry into the season, and the indecision shows. That being said, I don't know how you can choose a set of starters from what we currently have on either side of the ball, especially the OL. But without a consistent and set OL roster, what does the offense have to rely on? Also doesn't help that we don't have a QB1 yet, so no OL or even offensive players will be able to fully practice and learn each QB's cadence, play style, throws, etc. But hey, the obvious answer to this is that they are professionals, right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 4 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: There are things an OC can do to manipulate the offense in order to compensate for poor pass protection. I want to see this from Daboll. Like put the long snapper in and have Allen stand where the punter normally stands as to give him time to throw? Hey, I should be an offensive coordinator!! 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 5 hours ago, Virgil said: Is it strange to anyone that we haven’t named our starters at key positions yet? The final preseason game is tomorrow. Also, if Peterman gets the nod, should he play longer tomorrow since he only got one game with the starters? I worry a little about the lack of cohesion amongst our offensive starters as we drag out the competition. I know that teams like the Rams rested everyone, but they played together all of last year with success. Our QB and offensive line need that cohesion time. Dunkirk said that his source ......................... oh wait there were never any leaks since McDermott and Beane took over 3 hours ago, freddyjj said: Please see attached. OBD could get OL, CB or LB help in a trade. More valuable than your 3rd string QB https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2018/8/29/17795228/financial-ramifications-moving-aj-mccarron-off-the-buffalo-bills-roster-nathan-peterman-josh-allen Don't take this wrong Buffalo Rumblings HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAaaaaaa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 4 hours ago, HansLanda said: Do we really think someone as detail oriented as McD doesn't already know who his day one starter is? Just because he's humming and hawing over it with media doesn't mean a thing. Regardless of who gets the bulk of the load tomorrow, expect heavy doses of Cadet, Ford and Taiwan Jones via handoffs. He's sticking with the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 26 minutes ago, Idandria said: Like put the long snapper in and have Allen stand where the punter normally stands as to give him time to throw? Hey, I should be an offensive coordinator!! No, smartass. You have the TE chip block the DE as he releases. You shade the RB to one side and have him help or chip block. With a heavy dose of run plays you run a lot of WR/RB screens, quick slants and fades to the TE’s/WR’s. You can then open it up and run and run double moves with a pump fake on the quick slants. You try to stay away from running passing plays that consistently take 4-5 seconds to develop. Common man! It’s not that hard. This is exactly how Marsha Brady beats up on blitz heavy teams. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Let Miller be the qb for a series and he can see how dangerous it is behind this line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 5 hours ago, Virgil said: Is it strange to anyone that we haven’t named our starters at key positions yet? The final preseason game is tomorrow. Also, if Peterman gets the nod, should he play longer tomorrow since he only got one game with the starters? I worry a little about the lack of cohesion amongst our offensive starters as we drag out the competition. I know that teams like the Rams rested everyone, but they played together all of last year with success. Our QB and offensive line need that cohesion time. I wouldn't be surprised to see either of the 3 QB's start this last game. AJM - Because he missed time and want more tape to evaluate him (especially if they are undecided on keeping 3 QB's or 2 QB's) or possibly showcase him for a potential trade. Allen - To get him more experience, regardless if he is consideration or not still to start. Nate - Because he hasn't played with the 1's since the first 2 drives in first preseason game and want to get him more reps with the 1's if he is going to start week 1 I can see reason for starting any of the 3 this week, regardless if they have or have not made up their mind on who starts week 1. I think some of the other positions havent been settled yet for reasons. In some cases, the group has not played well and they are trying to find the best bad combo they can find (talking to OL group). Others have guys expected to compete for spots high on the depth chart like at WR that have not been here long enough, like Zay and Coleman, so its still unsettled. Others have some tight battles still like at TE, and even WR again as everyone behind say KB and Streater (those 2 had the best camp and preseason by a mile IMO) have all been about the same. So I think its mostly about that in a lot of these battles there have not been clear and obvious separation for a number of reasons such as injuries, late arrival via trade, and some tight battles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KollegeStudnet Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 It’s the last preseason game, the last game before the regular season. Make the Ravens work to game plan, because we already know the majority of their key starters. Still think the Bills win in Bmore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 It’s hard to imagine the opening day starter playing at all in tomorrow’s game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 6 hours ago, Sky Diver said: Bribe them to block better? I think they’d step it up for orange slices at halftime! 2 hours ago, freddyjj said: The trend now in the NFL is to have two QBs on the 53 and an emergency QB. Logan Thomas may make roster because he could be the 3rd QB and dress every week. Its what the Bills did last year. Oakland/Gruden may be a better place for AJ anyways. And we know Gruden loves him some NP. Either guy could be sent out west I think I heard Mark Schlereth say this week that Russ Grimm was the emergency QB. Think about that....an offensive lineman stepping in at QB? I guess he was just super smart, and a good enough athlete to make it their plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 ...pretty sure I read Nagy is resting ALL starters.....thus it wouldn't surprise me to see AJ get the start to test his health mettle and potentially advertise for a trade partner at some point (NOT NOW)....so our two's and three's versus theirs......maybe we can weed out OL candidates for Waste Management pickup on 9/1............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 7 hours ago, Starr Almighty said: The QB? Yeah, no. I don't know what I was thinking. Work day started at 3am today. NM what I said lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 14 hours ago, KollegeStudnet said: It’s the last preseason game, the last game before the regular season. Make the Ravens work to game plan, because we already know the majority of their key starters. Still think the Bills win in Bmore. I'm not sure how well one cam game plan from preseason, well other than blitzing every down and force the QB's to make mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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