DC Tom Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Just now, transplantbillsfan said: Hey... so could whoever created this thread maybe update what we know about this on page 1 in the OP??? Some of us aren't on Instagram or Facebook constantly hitting refresh. Woman was assaulted at home, we don't know who did it. Shady's associated with home and woman. That's still pretty much the sum total of what's known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said: Nothing surprises me nowadays. Especially when it comes to the off-field decision making of NFL players. Anything is possible. You actually believe the general population makes less stupid decisions in everyday life? Famous people regradless of the field just happen to live life under the microscope, thus when one of them does something dumb, illegal, etc. more attention is drawn to the incident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloflash Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 40 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: Lots of men will side with Shady in this particular instance, or anyone in Shady's role in a situation like this, simply b/c they are misogynists but don't know it. So What,Who cares! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: You actually believe the general population makes less stupid decisions in everyday life? Famous people regradless of the field just happen to live life under the microscope, thus when one of them does something dumb, illegal, etc. more attention is drawn to the incident. The average person does three stupid things a day. Only done two so far today? You've got one more ahead of you. Done five stupid things today? You overachiever, you... 40 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: Lots of men will side with Shady in this particular instance, or anyone in Shady's role in a situation like this, simply b/c they are misogynists but don't know it. You don't even realize that "I don't know" is a side that can be chosen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Just now, DC Tom said: The average person does three stupid things a day. Only done two so far today? You've got one more ahead of you. Done five stupid things today? You overachiever, you... Does pressing F5 on this thread count as a stupid thing? Because if so, I'm good for the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Just now, DC Tom said: Woman was assaulted at home, we don't know who did it. Shady's associated with home and woman. That's still pretty much the sum total of what's known. And the woman is Shady's ex-girlfriend???? And his ex-girlfriend's best friend is the one making these accusations? And Shady is claiming he hasn't had direct contact with "anyone involved" for months??? Is that about it so far??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: You actually believe the general population makes less stupid decisions in everyday life? Famous people regradless of the field just happen to live life under the microscope, thus when one of them does something dumb, illegal, etc. more attention is drawn to the incident. This thread is ample proof of that premise... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansLanda Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Just now, transplantbillsfan said: And the woman is Shady's ex-girlfriend???? And his ex-girlfriend's best friend is the one making these accusations? And Shady is claiming he hasn't had direct contact with "anyone involved" for months??? Is that about it so far??? The only thing we know as true to this point is that Shady's dog is named Henny. Otherwise, it's all pretty murky. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Just now, HansLanda said: The only thing we know as true to this point is that Shady's dog is named Henny. Otherwise, it's all pretty murky. Heinz* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 20 minutes ago, Commonsense said: Suspended? I don’t see him playing in Buffalo if he is at all connected to this. McD is strict and Kim is the First Lady of the NFL. The league has been aggressive on DV they won’t want that image. If he told his buddies to go over and grab his stuff and they proceeded to beat her up then that is on them. If he told them to go there and hurt her then he is 100% at fault. 1st scenario would clear McCoy to the extent he didn't order a hit or anything and things got out of hand. NFL will suspend and its up to Bills if they keep him. The second he goes to prison. That's all I was saying and I agree any connection in anyway he is toast both NFL and potentially life wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 13 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...something(s) have to lead the charge....door is only so wide, right??........... You just Had to say wide right... thanks man 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: You actually believe the general population makes less stupid decisions in everyday life? Famous people regradless of the field just happen to live life under the microscope, thus when one of them does something dumb, illegal, etc. more attention is drawn to the incident. Not really, but given their greater resources, celebrity, free time, and egos, I feel like anything is possible and they have a greater chance of being involved in crazy ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBytheBay Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: If he voluntarily lives in Jacksonville, FL, I would suggest "no". Militay bud. Besides, I love living here. It's clean, safe inexpensive, low cost of living, no income tax, beautiful... Thriving middle class, St parks, hell, tourists pay our taxes. I've lived all over, including New York, CT. And Mass... North Florida is awesome.... There is no influx of people moving up north. Not the same here.... It's funny. My northen family never want to vacation in New England. And they all plan to move here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 25 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: They won't be able to prove anything even if he was involved. Possibly. We’ll find out shortly I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DC Tom Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: And the woman is Shady's ex-girlfriend???? And his ex-girlfriend's best friend is the one making these accusations? And Shady is claiming he hasn't had direct contact with "anyone involved" for months??? Is that about it so far??? And the ex-gf removed the security cameras from his house, and he's trying to evict her, and he was nowhere near her when she was assaulted. And he likes his women like he likes his coffee... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Am The Liquor Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 NSFW language wise idk if that's against board rules sorry if it is. Watch From 2:18-3:24 and you'll see what I think happened. Was probably her friend that did it to her in a last ditch effort to F Shady out of all he's worth. Probably how the other female ended up with minor injuries too, the retaliation shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 19 minutes ago, DC Tom said: They can do a pretty good job proving he was involved even if he wasn't. Zero chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 40 minutes ago, Kevbeau said: Not the way it works...at least in Georgia. First hand experience. Due notice is still required and the squatee/rentee still has a few tricks they can try....and Georgia law is very friendly to owners/landlords. Same issue in Virginia. Renter who missed several rent payments promised to make up but then missed another payment. When we gave eviction notice we were told we had to give more notice and when she finally left she wrecked the house interior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike147 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 14 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Completely different situations, imo. With both Brady and Winston the league knew they were SOMEHOW involved in SOMETHING. They just couldnt prove to what extent. In Shady's case, it will be about whether he was involved AT ALL. To use your own words, if the NFL thinks McCoy is somehow involved they will punish him. The only way he comes out of this without punishment is if the accusation is proven to be false. Any doubt whatsoever will leave it open for the league to punish him because they can't be seen to be giving players free passes on accusations such as this. It is arguably why they punished Winston because they couldn't ignore it. They thought he was involved, probably couldn't prove it in a court of law, but that was enough to punish him. Same goes for McCoy. If there's any doubt, there will be a punishment ban and/or a fine. I hope it's proven he was not involved but it's too early to say either way because we don't know whether these accusations are true or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob16151 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: So much salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezertbill Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 20 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: Shady is evicting her legally. But he may also have items in the house that she's threatened to take or destroy. And so maybe he sent a guy to retrieve the items, not rough her up. But a confrontation ensued. I hope Shady's not involved in any way. But I'm not convinced. So here is my question for any legal aficionados out there. It's public knowledge that, when out of town, Shady has sent his people over to grab items from the home. Seeing this through cameras, she called police and this was stopped. No charges were filed against anyone, so I would have to assume that no laws were broken through their actions. Now, if the home is in Shady's name, and she is a "tenant", then they both share access. Also, if the home is in Shady's name, then he has authorization to allow someone access to the house with or without her knowledge (interpretation of Georgia law). Police reports say that the home was specifically targeted, and that the victim was asked for certain items. Based on this, there has to be some sense that this is an inside job. Yet, Shady hasn't been charged (or even hinted of being up for) any crimes. It's apparent from what is being filed in the courts, this woman feels entitled to this space and will not leave. She also feels entitled to personal possessions that Shady says are his, but she claims are hers and will not relinquish. So, here are my thoughts. Shady sends someone over to the home thinking she is in London (or perhaps she isn't home) looking to retrieve items in a home that is in his name. (Mind you, he may or may not have documentation via texts, VM, etc from her claiming she will destroy the items if he doesn't cooperate with her. It's a possibility.) She is there and confronts this individual. It's obvious through her fighting Shady in court, she isn't willing to relinquish these items easily. This individual then tells her he is going to take these items. She refuses to allow him to, and she initiates a physical confrontation with this person. This person is unwilling to sit idly by and allow her to physically attack him, so he responds with his own physical reaction. Obviously, with this person being stronger and larger than his girl, he causes more damage to her than she does to him. He then leaves, with or without the items. Now, due to the fact that this occurred in a home that Shady owns and there are legal proceedings currently in play, this isn't a slam dunk case for the police. There are a lot of pieces to try and fit together, specifically who has access to what, and who can allow people access to property that they own. My thoughts are, if there is an open court case regarding whether she has to relinquish belongings that Shady feels are his, then to send someone into the home and just "take" those items to me goes against court orders, and could possibly be deemed as theft...even though those items are in a home that Shady owns??? I sense that the police know a ton more than we do, and the semantics of this case make it difficult to just throw cuffs on someone. If this was her home, and someone broke in, then I truly believe that the police would be moving much faster. But because this home is owned by Shady, his rights are being weighed in on this. Also, could the police know who the assailant is, but are in a situation where A) He was authorized to enter the home by the home owner, so no law was broken there B). Is the possibility of her escalating the situation and causing first physical contact being taken into account???? Of course, the police are going to go off facts and not some social media post. If suspect was sent to the home to merely pick up belongings that Shady said were his, and he authorized him to be there, then I don't see that as a home invasion. I think as the days pass and more information comes out, we'll know just what the cops are thinking and whether or not this is an easier case to figure out than someone like myself who isn't a legal beagle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, corta765 said: If he told his buddies to go over and grab his stuff and they proceeded to beat her up then that is on them. If he told them to go there and hurt her then he is 100% at fault. 1st scenario would clear McCoy to the extent he didn't order a hit or anything and things got out of hand. NFL will suspend and its up to Bills if they keep him. The second he goes to prison. That's all I was saying and I agree any connection in anyway he is toast both NFL and potentially life wise. Except if that's what happened, it will take cops all of 30 seconds to get his buddies to cut a deal to say Shady paid them to beat her up, whether it's true or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: She knows everything? So she can tell us what was in the suitcase in Pulp Fiction? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: She knows everything? So she can tell us what was in the suitcase in Pulp Fiction? Is that what I think it is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 30 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: They won't be able to prove anything even if he was involved. This is why they created conspiracy. Criminal conspiracy would be charged as if he hit her himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 30 minutes ago, Heitz said: No one is BLAMING the victim, people are just saying we don't know the facts as they relate to Shady's involvment. But no, Shady should be guilty until proven innocent just like the judicial system is supposed to work. And we're the morons... o_O Actually many appear to be blaming her friend who decided on day of court to throw many unrelated nasty hashtags out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 If he did it himself, it'll be fairly easy to prove given the motive is so clear. Tracking vehicles, credit cards and of course phone is insanely easy. In the same way, it'll be easy to prove if he wasn't in the area. As for the conspiracy that he may have paid someone to pay her this visit, that could be proven all too easily, as well. I think they will be able to determine who was there. Being that the house was on such a small street, it likely will be possible for the police to find other cameras and track who's cell phone was connecting to the towers at that time. Speculating is fun, but I think we will end up with facts in this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 https://www.scribd.com/document/383601094/McCoy-Delicia-Cordon-2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Same issue in Virginia. Renter who missed several rent payments promised to make up but then missed another payment. When we gave eviction notice we were told we had to give more notice and when she finally left she wrecked the house interior. Same thing happened to my parents. They rented the house out to a local cop. He was late on rent and they couldn’t just evict. Eventually when they had to leave....destroyed the interior. My dad is the most thorough person though and had it covered. He took over 80 pics of the interior of the house the day before the cop moved in. Then took the same pics of the interior the day they moved out. My dad sued and won. The Judge even ripped the cop in the court room because he was a cop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 9 minutes ago, corta765 said: If he told his buddies to go over and grab his stuff and they proceeded to beat her up then that is on them. If he told them to go there and hurt her then he is 100% at fault. 1st scenario would clear McCoy to the extent he didn't order a hit or anything and things got out of hand. NFL will suspend and its up to Bills if they keep him. The second he goes to prison. That's all I was saying and I agree any connection in anyway he is toast both NFL and potentially life wise. Doesn't matter what he told them. If they entered the home with force, Shady will get the same invasion charge they get, and every charge after the invasion. It will be just as he was there with them. It don't matter what he told them. If they entered with force, it will be bad for him. If he's tied to it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmdjr85 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 He didnt do anything, he will never see a courtroom. Unfortunately the nfl can suspend him down thr road just because they can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloflash Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 32 minutes ago, Billschinatown said: So Lesean went through legal means all the way through with the court ****...and then he hired someone to beat her up last day? Hmmm....seems odd. Doesn't it? Yes it does....It would appear that someone didn't want to see the Judge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezertbill Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 13 minutes ago, corta765 said: If he told his buddies to go over and grab his stuff and they proceeded to beat her up then that is on them. If he told them to go there and hurt her then he is 100% at fault. 1st scenario would clear McCoy to the extent he didn't order a hit or anything and things got out of hand. NFL will suspend and its up to Bills if they keep him. The second he goes to prison. That's all I was saying and I agree any connection in anyway he is toast both NFL and potentially life wise. This. Although keep in mind this is a unique situation where the player didn't lay hands on the woman. If he is within the law and his rights, does the NFL suspend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Felony murder rule (someone dies by accident during the commission of a felony) and “transferred intent” (swinging your fist at one person and another person gets hit) may come into play here. Not saying anyone was murdered, but the same concept holds true. If Shady told a buddy “Go to my house and get my stuff” whatever they did and any injuries resulting therefrom as per his initial direction can be connected back to him. Kind of interesting to see what the end result is. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daisy days Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 In the couple years I have been coming to this board this by far has to be the most posted on.... especially this quickly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 I wonder if Shady made friends with another famous Bills running back who has a history of breaking into places, demanding his stuff back, and beating women.... Anyone know where OJ was last night?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Cmdjr85 said: He didnt do anything, he will never see a courtroom. Unfortunately the nfl can suspend him down thr road just because they can. That's not how it works. If he was involved in any way. If he paid them. If they did it on his behalf, he will get a conspiracy charge. Go look at what happened to rae carruth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Only just catching up with this. So... allegations made, picture posted, Shady denies. Let's hope this is not true. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 1 minute ago, BoldBully said: In the couple years I have been coming to this board this by far has to be the most posted on.... especially this quickly It's definitely a fast one. And I think we'll beat Maclin-Watch and Mario-Watch for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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