Bucky Gleason Leaving TBN After Requesting a Buyout - Jerry Sullivan and Now Tim Graham Out

[May Day 10]

1 minute ago, CardinalScotts said:

for sure but was doesnt need to be said is Lumping in the new regime with the old ones...but they do. Completely unprofessional and unfair

 

That is the Pegulas' fault.  They elected to move on with the same people (and had a frustrated head coach walk the plank voluntarily because of it).

 

With both teams they did this.

[Delete This Account]

11 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I could be mistaken, but I don't think TBN will be hiring right now.  I think the option of accepting "buy outs" is being offered to cut "headcount" permanently.

 

But they are.

Yet another baseless guess.

 

Do some of you folks get anything right?

 

jw

 

[plenzmd1]

25 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

I think it's more about the indifference created by unending failure of the organization to field ANYTHING CLOSE to a championship contender IMO.    Fox News deals with contenders.   That's why that model works.   Expectations are so low in Bills Country that sweating the details has no appeal to anyone.  The amount of Sully haters is the same.    They won by attrition.   If the team gets competitive again it should re-ignite the competitive spark in fans that makes critical "we can do better" pieces appealing.   It will just be a different person writing the column.   It sells in competitive markets and always will.    So if you don't like it.........root for continued losing and mediocrity like 7-9 win seasons and more of the same from the Sabres.    Hopefully our new QB and defensemen excel and help keep you guys miserable.

you accuse others of not reading and misquoting..and that is exactly what you are doing here. What in Gods name do people not buying or subscribing to the BN, and many saying they will not do so while Bucky and Sully were there, have anything to do with rooting for mediocrity.  It's just a non sequitur. 

 

 

Do you fail to realize the BN is a FOR PROFIT business? I am sure the BN made a BUSINESS decision...and that is all I am arguing. I despise all things Trump and Fox, but god bless they have found a way to get top rated shows ar night. And its not like Hannity and Carlson are winning a Pulitzer anytime soon for their nuanced reporting of any given issue. They sell what people will buy..Bucky and Sully were selling what no wanted...be that right or wrong.

 

You may say  Bills fans are sheep and only want cheerleaders..damn the facts! The facts are the BN is losing money for the first time in 40 years, many have said they will subscribe when these guys are gone, and they made the decision to see if that plays out. Be interesting to see if all the people on here who bitched about the $3 and not paying as a matter of principle cause these guys were there will now pay...

Edited May 31, 2018 by plenzmd1

[IDBillzFan]

6 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

I don't bash this forum.  Individual posters, absolutely.   We can be better but it's a great forum and I am not passive about expressing that.

 

You've just consistently been on the wrong side of right here.........you were one of the original DOOOOOOOMED posters back in the early 2000's when you shouted down anyone who was concerned about the direction of the organization.........which then eroded into a team that missed the playoffs for 17 years.    I called you out for your irrational takes then.   I do it now.   You've earned it.

 

 

You can collect all the names of people here who care what you think about other posters, write those names down, crumble up the paper and comfortably shove it in the ass of gnat.

 

No one cares. No one. Only you. And the more you post stuff like you post about me, the more you become the poster you love to hate.

 

Stick to football. You're much less incoherent on that topic, but at least it contributes to the board.

 

 

 

[PromoTheRobot]

15 minutes ago, May Day 10 said:

 

We were getting the run-around for almost 20 years, with the Bills' poor moves and .  When the Pegulas purchased the team, Sullivan and Gleason were on point to ask about hiring a team president.  Instead they stuck with the people in place, and predictably, the franchise hit a series of embarrassing icebergs. 

 

Same thing with the Sabres.  Pegula came in and resisted change and bringing in experience.  Retained management and only started to make changes when fan and media pressure became too much (and even then they made a botch of it).  There has been a series of awful moves there.

 

As a result, we have a few inexperienced management teams for each franchise, with Terry and Kim firmly involved, to the point that Terry is helping assess quarterbacks and Kim is President of both teams.  If this structure works out.... great.  If not, I don't want another move bypassing experience in upper management.  I would like critical voices in the media calling them out on it.  

 

 

Because they obviously want to be deeply involved and hands on with these teams, I just hope that the Pegulas' influence and power isnt becoming too strong and will be above criticism (or at least will have the ability to avoid a lot of it locally).  They neutered WGR when they brought the Bills broadcasting rights over.  1270 the Fan hasnt been able to get the listener base to maintain a radio show.  I wonder how much they have to do with these moves at TBN.  It would probably be pretty easy to tilt their business decisions with financial investment or patronage.  

 

My guess about Sullivan not being on WGR anymore was more economic than anything. Broadcast companies are pinching pennies just as much as papers. Entercom, WGR's parent company, wants to spend as little as possible.

[BADOLBILZ]

13 minutes ago, john wawrow said:

 

But they are.

Yet another baseless guess.

 

Do some of you folks get anything right?

 

jw

 

 

 

Bless his heart but Hapless is all up in my *stuff* today.   Didn't like me telling him he doesn't know what he doesn't know.   Bad days are had.   He's typically one of our best, as you probably know.

17 minutes ago, May Day 10 said:

 

That is the Pegulas' fault.  They elected to move on with the same people (and had a frustrated head coach walk the plank voluntarily because of it).

 

With both teams they did this.

 

 

The whole "hey they are new they need to prove how bad they are before we wonder aloud if they are good" thing seems uniquely small market.    Perhaps in competitive markets those people are afraid to be as vocal.   Here they have a voice amidst the apathy.

6 minutes ago, LABillzFan said:

 

 

You can collect all the names of people here who care what you think about other posters, write those names down, crumble up the paper and comfortably shove it in the ass of gnat.

 

No one cares. No one. Only you. And the more you post stuff like you post about me, the more you become the poster you love to hate.

 

Stick to football. You're much less incoherent on that topic, but at least it contributes to the board.

 

 

Don't ever change dude........I know you won't.

[Peter]

20 minutes ago, john wawrow said:

 

But they are.

Yet another baseless guess.

 

Do some of you folks get anything right?

 

jw

 

 

The fact that TBN indeed is hiring and that Sully was told that he was bad for business provides further clarity as to why Sully (and Bucky) are no longer with TBN.

 

I know you did not intend it this way, but this bit of information does not reflect well on Sully or Bucky.

 

I am glad TBN is hiring.  They need more guys like Vic and Tim (and Kelley and Felser) and dare I say you . . . rather than guys like Sully and Bucky.

 

I really hope TBN is successful.  It was my hometown newspaper, and we subscribed since I can remember. The sports department has a rich tradition that has been tarnished by the Sully, Bucky, and Harrington antics.

 

I also wish Bucky and Sully success in the future.  I hate to see anyone lose their jobs. It is somewhat ironic that this would happen to them after they have written so many articles demanding that guys be fired, cut, or drawn and quartered.

 

I hope that this experience will give them perspective and empathy in their future endeavors.  As I have said on numerous occasions, Sully actually is a gifted writer when he wants to be.  I always reference the articles he wrote about the Buffalo girl who died in the balloon accident or his work regarding the Olympics.

 

More often than not, however, Sully and Bucky (and Harrington) have provided us the written equivalent of that embarrassing year end Sabres press conference a few years ago.  I suspect that TBN finally got embarrassed and wondered why it was paying Sully and Bucky to seemingly phone in variations of the same negative and snarky articles/columns that they have been doing for years.

 

 

[Gugny]

Would anyone happen to have the recipe for the "fatties," Mr. Ags makes?  For some reason, he's not getting my texts.

[BringBackFergy]

This thread should be merged with the "high maintenance poster" thread. Unbelievable.

[GG]

So when does this move to PPP?

[GunnerBill]

2 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

You mean like people should take each individual Sully or Bucky piece rather than lump them in?    Because there actually were plenty of positively spun pieces written.   3 seasons above .500 in 18 years just doesn't provide much to work with, unfortunately.   And of course all the things that the supposed "bad guys" knew over the years that were never said.   The narrative that people anyone in the local media are "out to get" the Bills or Sabres is wrong and that's the fuel for the grave dancing, IMO. 

 

 

Indeed. I don't and never have read enough Buffalo News articles to give a fair or balanced view on whether Sully is too negative.  Bucky I have read even less of.  I probably agreed with Jerry about 50% of the time of what I did read.  That is fine, he is a columnist I don't have to agree with him.  I have more issue with his writing style and argument structure than his content. 

[Rico]

2 hours ago, Commonsense said:

It’s all personal preference.

 

I thought the “what is it you do exactly” was perfect. I had heard enough of Whaley stumbling his way through his time as GM, I didn’t need to hear anymore. That question put the exclamation point on Clown Show! 

Exactly. The snark was absolutely PERFECT and very well deserved.

[dezertbill]

Sully and Gleason are old dinosaurs in a new age.

 

Even when the Bills made the playoffs, Bucky was in the background of news conferences asking negative questions.  Sullivan himself admits he is one of the most negative people he knows.  Maybe he got off on that.  Maybe it's worn thin on his bosses and readers.

 

Regardless, digital media is taking over hard copy newspapers.  Newspapers deliveries are down drastically.  This means advertising dollars are shifting as well.  Those guys probably just got too expensive, or their roles were diminished, or could be a host of other things, including their negative view of the sports teams.

 

But as a Bills and Sabres fan I can see a negative product on the field.  When a positive happens, I don't need someone writing about how that positive is dressed with a bunch of different "what ifs" and "this could be bad" scenarios.  

 

Glass half empty writing all the time gets old. 

[Lurker]

56 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Indeed. I don't and never have read enough Buffalo News articles to give a fair or balanced view on whether Sully is too negative.  Bucky I have read even less of.  I probably agreed with Jerry about 50% of the time of what I did read.  That is fine, he is a columnist I don't have to agree with him.  I have more issue with his writing style and argument structure than his content. 

 

Same here.  I don't mind columnists being critical.   Lord knows, both franchises deserve it.   

 

But don't be boring.   Don't just go after the easy, low hanging fruit.   Don't continually "set 'em up to knock 'em down."   Don't avoid being accountable for past positions.  Don't (in the case of Buckster) take personal, abusive shots at management.    Don't just be a drunk on the bar stool.    Don't write for the lowest common denominator.

 

Rather, mix it up by educating and illuminating.   Provide context and knowledgeable analysis.   Tap into a network of experts (GMs, coaches, players, etc.) from outside WNY.   Be entertaining.  Act like a professional, not a message board flame thrower.   Make me want to open the sports page each day, rather than skip it and wish for better content.

 

That's not a particularly high bar to surmount...

 

Edited May 31, 2018 by Lurker

[GunnerBill]

9 minutes ago, Lurker said:

 

Same here.  I don't mind columnists being critical.   Lord knows, both franchises deserve it.   

 

But don't be boring.   Don't just go after the easy, low hanging fruit.   Don't continually "set 'em up to knock 'em down."   Don't avoid being accountable for past positions.  Don't (in the case of Buckster) take personal, abusive shots at management.    Don't just be a drunk on the bar stool.    Don't write for the lowest common denominator.

 

Rather, mix it up by educating and illuminating.   Provide context and knowledgeable analysis.   Tap into a network of experts (GMs, coaches, players, etc.) from outside WNY.   Be entertaining.  Act like a professional, not a message board flame thrower.   Make me want to open the sports page each day, rather than skip it and wish for better content.

 

That's not a particularly high bar to surmount...

 

 

I think you are still talking mainly about content... 

[Lurker]

24 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I think you are still talking mainly about content... 

 

Indeed.   Snark away, but be entertaining and motivated.    Not much to ask...

 

Edited May 31, 2018 by Lurker

[I'm Spartacus]

Thank God this is finally over!

[BADOLBILZ]

6 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

It sounds as though we agree.  You say "reactionary question", I say "zinger" or snark.

 

The point is, we both appear to agree it wasn't an example of a "hard journalistic question" per se as some have brought up may be missed or left as a gap with Sullivan and Gleason's departure.

 

Snark is not really what I mean at all.   What Whaley was saying could not have been on anyone's script.......and the way access had been so limited even as just an observer I could feel the urgency to ask questions before the door was shut.   No time to mince words.  The Bills basically had a week to prep for that PC and it went so badly I know it left a few people stunned and probably holding a lot of questions that suddenly seemed far too advanced for the conversation.    

 

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

5 hours ago, Bill from NYC said:

Nobody is ever 100% accurate but my experience on TSW (also 2 decades) tells me that if you disagree with Badol about football matters, chances are you are going to be wrong. Nick Saban however might be able to teach him a thing or 2.  

 

Disagreement on various poster's knowledge of football matters or Buffalo Bills knowledge/insight has not been at issue here.

 

5 hours ago, Gugny said:

Would anyone happen to have the recipe for the "fatties," Mr. Ags makes?  For some reason, he's not getting my texts.

 

Suggest you PM him.

 

5 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

Bless his heart but Hapless is all up in my *stuff* today.   Didn't like me telling him he doesn't know what he doesn't know.  

 

  That is simply not a credible interpretation.  Since I won't bring PMs into the forum, of course, can't prove.

[GunnerBill]

55 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

Snark is not really what I mean at all.   What Whaley was saying could not have been on anyone's script.......and the way access had been so limited even as just an observer I could feel the urgency to ask questions before the door was shut.   No time to mince words.  The Bills basically had a week to prep for that PC and it went so badly I know it left a few people stunned and probably holding a lot of questions that suddenly seemed far too advanced for the conversation.    

 

 

 

The Bills mishandled the end of 2016 spectacularly. Leaving poor Anthony Lynn as the first person to face the press after firing Rex was a PR disaster. Then putting Whaley out on his lonesome for the end of season presser compounded it. 

 

I know I bang on about this a lot but when an owner takes the decision to hire someone (and the Pegulas hired Rex) then they should face the music when they fire someone. Jeff Lurie personally hired Chip Kelly. When it backfired and Lurie fired him 2 games before the end of 2015 it was Lurie who went out and faced the music infront of the press. He led his organisation, owned up to his mistake and fronted up. That is the kind of leadership that ultimately leads to success. I am not claiming it won them a Superbowl or anything like that... but that is what leadership looks like. The Pegulas standing on the side until it was such a disaster they had to rush in and speak to JW themselves was a lesson in how not to do it. 

[Rico]

24 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

The Bills mishandled the end of 2016 spectacularly. Leaving poor Anthony Lynn as the first person to face the press after firing Rex was a PR disaster. Then putting Whaley out on his lonesome for the end of season presser compounded it. 

 

I know I bang on about this a lot but when an owner takes the decision to hire someone (and the Pegulas hired Rex) then they should face the music when they fire someone. Jeff Lurie personally hired Chip Kelly. When it backfired and Lurie fired him 2 games before the end of 2015 it was Lurie who went out and faced the music infront of the press. He led his organisation, owned up to his mistake and fronted up. That is the kind of leadership that ultimately leads to success. I am not claiming it won them a Superbowl or anything like that... but that is what leadership looks like. The Pegulas standing on the side until it was such a disaster they had to rush in and speak to JW themselves was a lesson in how not to do it. 

Yes, it was a complete disaster, compounded by the fact that after 4 years as GM, Whaley had far overstayed his welcome. Marrone was gone, Rex was gone, yet he survived? WTF! Press corps was loaded for bear, and he got what he deserved that day.

[GunnerBill]

6 minutes ago, Rico said:

Yes, it was a complete disaster, compounded by the fact that after 4 years as GM, Whaley had far overstayed his welcome. Marrone was gone, Rex was gone, yet he survived? WTF! Press corps was loaded for bear, and he got what he deserved that day.

 

I know you hate Whaley but he should not have been out there that day. It wasn't his fault he survived. The man to explain those decisions was the owner who hired Rex and the owner who allowed a disfunctional GM - HC relationship to fester. 

 

It was a total absence of leadership by Pegula who would rather be in Florida. He should have been in Buffalo. It was his duty. 

Edited May 31, 2018 by GunnerBill

[Kelly the Dog]

36 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

The Bills mishandled the end of 2016 spectacularly. Leaving poor Anthony Lynn as the first person to face the press after firing Rex was a PR disaster. Then putting Whaley out on his lonesome for the end of season presser compounded it. 

 

I know I bang on about this a lot but when an owner takes the decision to hire someone (and the Pegulas hired Rex) then they should face the music when they fire someone. Jeff Lurie personally hired Chip Kelly. When it backfired and Lurie fired him 2 games before the end of 2015 it was Lurie who went out and faced the music infront of the press. He led his organisation, owned up to his mistake and fronted up. That is the kind of leadership that ultimately leads to success. I am not claiming it won them a Superbowl or anything like that... but that is what leadership looks like. The Pegulas standing on the side until it was such a disaster they had to rush in and speak to JW themselves was a lesson in how not to do it. 

Some owners are good at that and some are not. Lurie is pretty good at it and Terry is rather bad. That has nothing to do with the quality of ownership, or the right or wrong way to do that kind of thing. I'm thrilled with the Pegulas being the owners of the Sabres and Bills. I cringe when I see Terry speak in public about his teams or decisions. I don't like speaking in public either and suck at it. I imagine he hates it too. 

[Rico]

1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I know you hate Whaley but he should not have been out there that day. It wasn't his fault he survived. The man to explain those decisions was the owner who hired Rex and the owner who allowed a disfunctional GM - HC relationship to fester. 

 

It was a total absence of leadership by Pegula who would rather be in Florida. He should have been in Buffalo. It was his duty. 

He undermined Marrone and he undermined Rex. One left and one got "fired", and he played a major part in both moves, yet somehow still remained.... that's one good reason why he was crushed that day.

 

I do agree that Pegs should've been there though, and his absence was not appreciated at all, possibly the major reason for the beatdown.

[JohnC]

5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I know you hate Whaley but he should not have been out there that day. It wasn't his fault he survived. The man to explain those decisions was the owner who hired Rex and the owner who allowed a disfunctional GM - HC relationship to fester. 

 

It was a total absence of leadership by Pegula who would rather be in Florida. He should have been in Buffalo. It was his duty. 

You are absolutely right that Whaley was placed in an untenable situation that he didn't deserve to be placed in. But tough! Fairness isn't always part of the landscape in the work world. It goes with the territory. You try to prepare the best you kind for an impossibly awkward situation. I agree with you that the owner weaseled out of a bad situation that he created. But again that's part of life where the boss has the ability to throw you out on stage with a crowd of wolves howling at you. 

 

But let's look at the substance of the situation. Whaley as a GM was average at best. He certainly didn't have full control of hiring HCs but the solution to that was to insist on that authority or resign. The heart of the matter is that Whaley was mediocre with his draft selections and his cap management was not wisely handled. It wasn't crippling but it certainly wasn't smartly handled. His style of decision-making was tactical and not strategic. Contrast how he ran the operation to how this McBeane run their operation. 

 

He was an 8-8 type of GM. Middling and indistinguishable from the pack. He simply wasn't good enough at his job. That' the real issue. 

[Rico]

3 minutes ago, JohnC said:

You are absolutely right that Whaley was placed in an untenable situation that he didn't deserve to be placed in. But tough! Fairness isn't always part of the landscape in the work world. It goes with the territory. You try to prepare the best you kind for an impossibly awkward situation. I agree with you that the owner weaseled out of a bad situation that he created. But again that's part of life where the boss has the ability to throw you out on stage with a crowd of wolves howling at you. 

 

But let's look at the substance of the situation. Whaley as a GM was average at best. He certainly didn't have full control of hiring HCs but the solution to that was to insist on that authority or resign. The heart of the matter is that Whaley was mediocre with his draft selections and his cap management was not wisely handled. It wasn't crippling but it certainly wasn't smartly handled. His style of decision-making was tactical and not strategic. Contrast how he ran the operation to how this McBeane run their operation. 

 

He was an 8-8 type of GM. Middling and indistinguishable from the pack. He simply wasn't good enough at his job. That' the real issue. 

Absolutely indefensible to give him a 4th year as GM during THE drought. That was by far my biggest problem with him, I never really slammed him during his 1st 2+ seasons, but 3 years was enough.

[26CornerBlitz]

All the best to John Vogl. Wouldn't be surprised to see him land with The Athletic once it debuts in Buffalo. 

 

[JohnC]

2 minutes ago, Rico said:

Absolutely indefensible to give him a 4th year as GM during THE drought. That was by far my biggest problem with him, I never really slammed him during his 1st 2+ seasons, but 3 years was enough.

For the first couple of years I gave him the benefit of the doubt. It was evident that he did a lot of churning in a result oriented business  (W/L). Granted he had a lot of obstacles he had to contend with that were not of his making. But when all was said and done his performance was average at best in a system where 3/4 of the teams are average. There was little that distinguished his tenure. What closed my door on him was his lack of effort in pursuing the challenge of finding a franchise qb. That's when my door was closed and locked on him.  

[Bill from NYC]

30 minutes ago, JohnC said:

You are absolutely right that Whaley was placed in an untenable situation that he didn't deserve to be placed in. But tough! Fairness isn't always part of the landscape in the work world. It goes with the territory. You try to prepare the best you kind for an impossibly awkward situation. I agree with you that the owner weaseled out of a bad situation that he created. But again that's part of life where the boss has the ability to throw you out on stage with a crowd of wolves howling at you. 

 

But let's look at the substance of the situation. Whaley as a GM was average at best. He certainly didn't have full control of hiring HCs but the solution to that was to insist on that authority or resign. The heart of the matter is that Whaley was mediocre with his draft selections and his cap management was not wisely handled. It wasn't crippling but it certainly wasn't smartly handled. His style of decision-making was tactical and not strategic. Contrast how he ran the operation to how this McBeane run their operation. 

 

He was an 8-8 type of GM. Middling and indistinguishable from the pack. He simply wasn't good enough at his job. That' the real issue. 

You are being FAR too generous with Whaley. He had lousy drafts in which he gave away the store. He handed other teams his most valuable assets time and again. Give me a ring when this inept failure of a GM gets another job at that level.

27 minutes ago, Rico said:

 I never really slammed him during his 1st 2+ seasons, but 3 years was enough.

I did.  

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

1 minute ago, Bill from NYC said:

You are being FAR too generous with Whaley. He had lousy drafts in which he gave away the store. He handed other teams his most valuable assets time and again. Give me a ring when this inept failure of a GM gets another job at that level.

I still say he's stylin' so they offer him the role of Ricardo Tubbs when they remake (yet again) 'Miami Vice'.  He's got the wardrobe and the dour expression down pat.

[Bill from NYC]

2 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

I still say he's stylin' so they offer him the role of Ricardo Tubbs when they remake (yet again) 'Miami Vice'.  He's got the wardrobe and the dour expression down pat.

I said this many times.....the man knows how to dress.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

3 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

I said this many times.....the man knows how to dress.

3 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

You don't suppose he and Brandon could pick up 'wardrobe considerations' from Napoli's Men's Shop, even in their relative 'disgrace'?

 

Ok, how about United Mens' Stores?  Chess King?

[JohnC]

43 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

All the best to John Vogl. Wouldn't be surprised to see him land with The Athletic once it debuts in Buffalo. 

 

What's the Atlantic? Is a magazine or weekly sports publication?  

[PromoTheRobot]

24 minutes ago, JohnC said:

What's the Atlantic? Is a magazine or weekly sports publication?  

Actually it's the Athletic. Online sports site. Lots of name writers went there, especially for hockey. Subscription only.

 

https://theathletic.com/

 

Edited May 31, 2018 by PromoTheRobot

[beerme1]

On 5/30/2018 at 1:26 PM, Lurker said:

 

A Jeff Simon review today is 25% about the film and 75% on what he had for lunch.   He's another guy who was once very good who petered out waiting for the retirement check.   

 

OTOH, Miers is passionate about the music and it shows in his writing.   I'd much rather read that kind of columnist that a guy playing out the string...

 

 

Jeff Miers is a tool. Although today in Gusto he was great!  

 

On 5/30/2018 at 7:37 PM, oldmanfan said:

If you could put this in English I'd be happy to respond.

 

We want you to take the buyout.

 

 

 

[26CornerBlitz]

47 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Actually it's the Athletic. Online sports site. Lots of name writers went there, especially for hockey. Subscription only.

 

https://theathletic.com/

 

 

 

[Delete This Account]

9 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

My guess about Sullivan not being on WGR anymore was more economic than anything. Broadcast companies are pinching pennies just as much as papers. Entercom, WGR's parent company, wants to spend as little as possible.

 

Nope.

It was a TBN decision.

 

jw

[May Day 10]

2 minutes ago, john wawrow said:

 

Nope.

It was a TBN decision.

 

jw

I really did enjoy the Tim Graham show.  It's a shame its done for the summer, and maybe forever.  Such a refreshing alternative from wgr... (I'm not a hater of wgr but it gets extremely redundant).  

[CommonCents]

2 hours ago, Rico said:

Absolutely indefensible to give him a 4th year as GM during THE drought. That was by far my biggest problem with him, I never really slammed him during his 1st 2+ seasons, but 3 years was enough.

I may slammed him previous to his third year. 

[Delete This Account]

2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I know you hate Whaley but he should not have been out there that day. It wasn't his fault he survived. The man to explain those decisions was the owner who hired Rex and the owner who allowed a disfunctional GM - HC relationship to fester. 

 

It was a total absence of leadership by Pegula who would rather be in Florida. He should have been in Buffalo. It was his duty. 

 

It was on Whaley for failing to represent the franchise, and being poorly prepped, knowing what he was in store for.

It didn’t help that he was leaking stuff to his friends while at the same time thoroughly avoiding the local media.

His tight-lipped responses were an embarrassment all around.

His desire to say as little as possible failed him and eventually shed full light on his many deficiencies. 

He had a future in Buffalo before that press conference.

And his fate was sealed the moment he stepped off the podium.

It was, as we put it in the business, a total sh&t show.

 

jw