Doc Brown Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 I don't gamble because the consequences could be disastrous, but you could get rich betting against the Bills in prime time, traveling to the West Coast to face the Chargers or Raiders, and home games against the Pats. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Just now, Doc Brown said: I don't gamble because the consequences could be disastrous, but you could get rich betting against the Bills in prime time, traveling to the West Coast to face the Chargers or Raiders, and home games against the Pats. Wish this was legal during the 00’s. I’d be sitting on some nice change. Betting against the Bills was a safe bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 9 hours ago, Boyst62 said: Good. Now if SCOTUS would rule the way I wish them to on the other 8 big cases I'll be one happy mofo Mention your wishes here, and I’m sure it will all be taken care of. I’m pretty sure they check this site on a regular basis..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Augie said: Mention your wishes here, and I’m sure it will all be taken care of. I’m pretty sure they check this site on a regular basis..... I’m quite certain another topic has already deemed McD’s locker room to be unconstitutional. They might want to look into that violation of the separation of church and state. 2 minutes ago, BUFFALOBART said: It comes down to one simple premise: "Always do the right thing". Simple, really...... Absolutely, and that “right thing” is for individual human beings to decide, not the government. Edited May 15, 2018 by DriveFor1Outta5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, Augie said: Mention your wishes here, and I’m sure it will all be taken care of. I’m pretty sure they check this site on a regular basis..... Remove all bans on the second Legalize prostitution Right to work federally with a 80 hour work week mandatory Free hat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 6 hours ago, Infinitum said: Over 80% of my county property taxes goes towards medicaid, for ppl in NYC. So no, you're wrong. It's obvious that you don't understand how Medicaid works in NYS.. 8 hours ago, Boyst62 said: Licensing, promotions/ad rev, partnership. Are any pro leagues getting any of this where sports gambling is legal now? 10 hours ago, Shotgunner said: Good luck with that. They will blow all the tax revenue in NYC on useless BS. Just like CA, we should be trying to separate the state. Us rural folks literally and figuratively "pay the price" for the big city on the coast. Useless BS? Like the "Buffalo Billion"--now the biggest scam in state funding history? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 1 hour ago, NoSaint said: Its a big ol country with lots lots of rural states without a city on the coast... if you think it’s a pressing issue Or instead of just dealing with things the way they are.... We can try to constantly improve to best serve the whole citizenship. But, you know... Carry on trolling with your "if you don't like it just move" attitude. If everyone was like that nothing will have ever been changed for the better. I was born here and have family here. Trust me if I was picking a state to live in with no ties, NY would be 49th on my list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 39 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: It's obvious that you don't understand how Medicaid works in NYS.. Are any pro leagues getting any of this where sports gambling is legal now? Useless BS? Like the "Buffalo Billion"--now the biggest scam in state funding history? If I heard the radio correctly the cross country kickball games over seas do it in their stadium. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 33 minutes ago, Shotgunner said: Or instead of just dealing with things the way they are.... We can try to constantly improve to best serve the whole citizenship. But, you know... Carry on trolling with your "if you don't like it just move" attitude. If everyone was like that nothing will have ever been changed for the better. I was born here and have family here. Trust me if I was picking a state to live in with no ties, NY would be 49th on my list. You can stay put if you want. I don’t particularly care. It’s your life, man. Just seemed you were more unhappy with the state than most so maybe changing your own situation would be more feasible than changing the state as a whole. I’m just here reading football news. You brought your opinions on politics and your life situation into the thread on gambling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 5 hours ago, snafu said: Well if the State has any part in it, they will screw it up so that it costs more to administer than they take in, just like OTB. It will be more like pocket-lining revenue. Yeah. That is what liberal socialist democracy thinking looks like.(they all fail eventually) They see this as a jobs program. The don't care that it will cost more to pay the salaries, health care, retirement etc etc.. of the bureaucracy hired to administrate this, then they take in, or, that it will eventually require a tax payer bailout into infinity. Liberals call it economic development. And love it. Conservatives call it wealth redistribution. And hate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 The NFL will need another layer of vetting for kickers... AND someone watching the bastards 24/7.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 (edited) 13 hours ago, Chicken Boo said: Hard to run on "family values" and legalize prostitution...although that morality line seems to be getting blurrier by the day. No it's not, all somebody just needs is $130k to shut a slut up. Well, for a little while. A home equity line of credit will do. Edited May 15, 2018 by ExiledInIllinois 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LikeIGiveADarn Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 6 hours ago, DriveFor1Outta5 said: Right on. NY State without NYC would have economic indicators in line with states like West Virginia and Mississippi. The “separatists” would be sorry if they got what they wish for. Considering WNY has the highest percentage of young college educated adults, I think if we would do fine with a new government, so long as they were willing to cut taxes AND social programs down to the norm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 16 hours ago, Shotgunner said: Good luck with that. They will blow all the tax revenue in NYC on useless BS. Just like CA, we should be trying to separate the state. Us rural folks literally and figuratively "pay the price" for the big city on the coast. Honesty question. is there any statistical evidence to back up that claim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 20 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: Honesty question. is there any statistical evidence to back up that claim? There's not. The Cities carry the country. There wouldn't even be enough tax dollars in the country to provide infrastructure, etc... People forget it was the industrialized cities that subsidized things as basic as rural electrification. Funny how people think. But the 1200 in a small town all flip a switch to turn on lights, flush a toilet and possibly send their crap down a community sewer to be treated, have their trash hauled away, or jump in a car and zoom off to Walmart on a smooth, lit, plowed in winter, road... 1200 people spread out sparsely don't provide enough tax dollars to carry the load they are consuming. Funny how they think they do. Promo above was spot on. It's the exact opposite. The industrial city carries the modern conveniences that the country enjoys. Unless they want to go back to an agrarian, non-consumer way of life... They shouldn't be complaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 19 hours ago, BringBackFergy said: Always remember...all Lottery revenue in NYS goes to the schools. I read that somewhere. Yeah, they said the same things to get Californians to vote for the lottery. People I know that work in school systems say all that trickles down to the schools is peanuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 17 minutes ago, LittleJoeCartwright said: Yeah, they said the same things to get Californians to vote for the lottery. People I know that work in school systems say all that trickles down to the schools is peanuts. The old !@#$ers inPA get a pretty nice buy of benefits each year. Still a waste though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitum Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 11 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: It's obvious that you don't understand how Medicaid works in NYS.. https://orleanshub.com/counties-would-see-big-property-tax-reductions-if-ny-paid-local-share-like-most-counties/ Where do you think the most users of State run Medicaid reside??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 13 minutes ago, Infinitum said: https://orleanshub.com/counties-would-see-big-property-tax-reductions-if-ny-paid-local-share-like-most-counties/ Where do you think the most users of State run Medicaid reside??? The counties are mandated to provide the funds for those services, including Medicaid, for their own county. In other states, the taxes to support Medicaid are pooled statewide. If a county has a low tax base and a high Medicaid usage, property taxes will be high to close the gap. Your taxes in whatever county you live in don't pay for NYC Medicaid costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitum Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: The counties are mandated to provide the funds for those services, including Medicaid, for their own county. In other states, the taxes to support Medicaid are pooled statewide. Must be a lot of ppl on Medicaid in Niagara County then... My taxes are stupid high. Wow, all I could find are numbers circa 2013, 90k ppl on Medicaid in Niagara county with a population of 212k. 42% of people in Niagara county are on medicaid? WTF. No wonder why the population is receding and taxes are going up... Edited May 15, 2018 by Infinitum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mr. WEO Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 2 hours ago, Infinitum said: Must be a lot of ppl on Medicaid in Niagara County then... My taxes are stupid high. Wow, all I could find are numbers circa 2013, 90k ppl on Medicaid in Niagara county with a population of 212k. 42% of people in Niagara county are on medicaid? WTF. No wonder why the population is receding and taxes are going up... The problem is that there is no significant commercial tax base in your county to kick in for the county service obligations. And it's about to get worse--no more casino cash. Property taxes in Manhattan?NYC are far lower, despite a massive entitlement obligation, because of its huge tax base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 On 5/14/2018 at 8:48 AM, jmc12290 said: Can this Trump administration do wrong? MAGA indeed! The Trump administration argued in favor of the ban, much as the Obama administration had. On 5/14/2018 at 6:51 PM, Shotgunner said: Or instead of just dealing with things the way they are.... We can try to constantly improve to best serve the whole citizenship. But, you know... Carry on trolling with your "if you don't like it just move" attitude. If everyone was like that nothing will have ever been changed for the better. I was born here and have family here. Trust me if I was picking a state to live in with no ties, NY would be 49th on my list. West Virginia? New Jersey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 12 hours ago, Infinitum said: Must be a lot of ppl on Medicaid in Niagara County then... My taxes are stupid high. Wow, all I could find are numbers circa 2013, 90k ppl on Medicaid in Niagara county with a population of 212k. 42% of people in Niagara county are on medicaid? WTF. No wonder why the population is receding and taxes are going up... And if the Cadillac NYS Medicaid plan were dialed back to something close to the national average , I'd imagine those numbers would be roughly halved? Just a guess on my part, but the NY plan needs to change in a big way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 (edited) On 5/14/2018 at 9:09 AM, 26CornerBlitz said: Supreme Court Strikes Down Sports Gambling Law This has huge implications for the NFL and other professional sports leagues In few months will slowly notice more & more divorce attorney’s advertisements Edited May 16, 2018 by Putin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mango Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) On 5/14/2018 at 10:29 AM, BringBackFergy said: Always remember...all Lottery revenue in NYS goes to the schools. I read that somewhere. Thats true actually. The issue is that it is supposed to in addition to the budget. But instead, they move EDU money elsewhere and replace it with lottery money. Originally the bill should have been passed with a minimum amount towards schools + 2% for inflation year over year. Ensuring lottery money is an increase in funding. Edited May 17, 2018 by Mango Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 18, 2018 Author Share Posted May 18, 2018 NFLPA Executive Director DeMaurice Smith joined Mike Golic and Trey Wingo of ESPN to discuss the recent legalization of sports gambling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 When this story broke, I knew everyone's favorite radio talk show host, Mike Schopp, would be all over this. He's now dedicated at least 2 shows to the topic of legal sports betting. Dude is a major gambling addict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 21, 2018 Author Share Posted May 21, 2018 Roger Goodell Issues Statement on Sports Betting As it was for my predecessors, there is no greater priority for me as the Commissioner of the National Football League than protecting the integrity of our sport. Our fans, our players and our coaches deserve to know that we are doing everything possible to ensure no improper influences affect how the game is played on the field. This week's ruling by the Supreme Court has no effect on that unwavering commitment. We have spent considerable time planning for the potential of broadly legalized sports gambling and are prepared to address these changes in a thoughtful and comprehensive way, including substantial education and compliance trainings for our clubs, players, employees and partners. These efforts include supporting commonsense legislation that protects our players, coaches and fans and maintains public confidence in our games. We are asking Congress to enact uniform standards for states that choose to legalize sports betting that include, at a minimum, four core principles: 1. There must be substantial consumer protections; 2. Sports leagues can protect our content and intellectual property from those who attempt to steal or misuse it; 3. Fans will have access to official, reliable league data; and 4. Law enforcement will have the resources, monitoring and enforcement tools necessary to protect our fans and penalize bad actors here at home and abroad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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row_33 Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 On 5/19/2018 at 3:49 PM, Fadingpain said: When this story broke, I knew everyone's favorite radio talk show host, Mike Schopp, would be all over this. He's now dedicated at least 2 shows to the topic of legal sports betting. Dude is a major gambling addict. or he's paid to do this, there could be a big difference.... i would gladly do all the work and research if paid, but i don't gamble any more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 (edited) I'd rather patronize a bookie than conglomerate Edited June 5, 2018 by stuvian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co_springs_billsfan Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 10 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: So how does this work, they increase the vig to pay the taxes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted June 11, 2018 Author Share Posted June 11, 2018 New Jersey joins the fray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 On 5/15/2018 at 8:09 AM, Mr. WEO said: The counties are mandated to provide the funds for those services, including Medicaid, for their own county. In other states, the taxes to support Medicaid are pooled statewide. If a county has a low tax base and a high Medicaid usage, property taxes will be high to close the gap. Your taxes in whatever county you live in don't pay for NYC Medicaid costs. ...NY ranks 3rd in the country for welfare spending at $61.4 BILLION which includes Medicaid........so no stadium help from Guido Cuomo......BTW, Pegula despises him because of his stance on hydrofracking which TP thinks would be a boon for the State economy...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 15 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...NY ranks 3rd in the country for welfare spending at $61.4 BILLION which includes Medicaid........so no stadium help from Guido Cuomo......BTW, Pegula despises him because of his stance on hydrofracking which TP thinks would be a boon for the State economy...... Pegula would take money offered by Cuomo in a heartbeat. No billionaire "despises" free (taxpayer) money... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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