Rico Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 I posted this in another thread, but this is a good Vic scoop: http://buffalonews.com/2018/05/01/vic-caruccis-analysis-brandons-tenure-with-bills-tale-of-conflicting-results/ "The fact is, once Sean McDermott took over as coach last year and Beane became GM shortly thereafter, Brandon had very little to do with the football portion of the Bills' operation and was focused almost exclusively on business. A person close to the situation told The Buffalo News that McDermott wanted it that way, with Terry and Kim Pegula granting his wish that neither Brandon nor the GM at the time, Doug Whaley, be present during McDermott's initial meeting with the owners. " Gotta love McD! 4 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Can’t see the article. #BNPAYWALL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted May 2, 2018 Author Share Posted May 2, 2018 Just now, BuffaloRush said: Can’t see the article. #BNPAYWALL Oops... it's there though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 (edited) He processed the **** outta them Edited May 2, 2018 by GETTOTHE50 1 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Billieve Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 (edited) its funny how many times i've heard that Russ is just recently no longer involved in football operations. I'm guessing this time sticks though. Edited May 2, 2018 by Steve Billieve 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Thanks for yesterday's news that no one can see Vic! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 13 minutes ago, Steve Billieve said: its funny how many times i've heard that Russ is just recently no longer involved in football operations. I'm guessing this time sticks though. Same here. Like I posted before in another thread. Sal and Leo from the Rochester D and C were defending him as were Schopp and the Bulldog. My guess is that he cultivated pretty good relationships with the media and they are being far easier on him than, say, a Doug Whaley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiezzz Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Well, adios! That may very well be their source. Glad to see him go. I don't listen to wgr anymore, as it's pretty much a joke of a station. Most of the personalities are flat, boring, and it's just so hard to listen. I wish they flush most of them, and get some personalities more interesting, and knowledgeable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 So does this mean Brandon was the leak the years of Whaley and Rex? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 21 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: So does this mean Brandon was the leak the years of Whaley and Rex? That is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 23 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: So does this mean Brandon was the leak the years of Whaley and Rex? It would make sense, in order to keep the Bills relevant in the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 (edited) 26 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: So does this mean Brandon was the leak the years of Whaley and Rex? Hard to ignore the fact that once the guy was kicked out of football related decisions that the leaks stopped. Especially considering that his job was to create media buzz about the teams. Edited May 2, 2018 by The Wiz 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 26 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: So does this mean Brandon was the leak the years of Whaley and Rex? That was Bercholz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Rico said: I posted this in another thread, but this is a good Vic scoop: http://buffalonews.com/2018/05/01/vic-caruccis-analysis-brandons-tenure-with-bills-tale-of-conflicting-results/ "The fact is, once Sean McDermott took over as coach last year and Beane became GM shortly thereafter, Brandon had very little to do with the football portion of the Bills' operation and was focused almost exclusively on business. A person close to the situation told The Buffalo News that McDermott wanted it that way, with Terry and Kim Pegula granting his wish that neither Brandon nor the GM at the time, Doug Whaley, be present during McDermott's initial meeting with the owners. " Gotta love McD! ..good call on his part......this guy means nothing but FOOTBALL business as does McBeane IMO......damn good hires........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 I love having one identity as an organization. Build your empire McDermott. Be a legendary buffalo coach. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 1 hour ago, The Jokeman said: So does this mean Brandon was the leak the years of Whaley and Rex? Brandon has been the leak for the last 20 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
switz1610 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Would be crazy if Russ was the leak b/c a reporter had the dirt on his improprieties. A situation like that would support this statement: " but the investigation indicated he was deceitful about that and other job-related issues that were uncovered" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffHead Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Paul Hamilton said on Schopp and BD that there was major tension between McD and Russ to the point McD didn’t want Russ in the same room as him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 19 minutes ago, SWATeam said: I love having one identity as an organization. Build your empire McDermott. Be a legendary buffalo coach. Don’t like it. I’m fine with him on defense but our offense decision have been pretty brutal. It’s kinda insane to give this much power to a first year head coach. But it it’s pretty much on the Allen pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Just now, C.Biscuit97 said: Don’t like it. I’m fine with him on defense but our offense decision have been pretty brutal. It’s kinda insane to give this much power to a first year head coach. But it it’s pretty much on the Allen pick. I say go all or nothing. Don't middle it. Give him enough rope to hang himself if it doesn't work out. I will say that I think Beane has plenty of power in this organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 14 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Don’t like it. I’m fine with him on defense but our offense decision have been pretty brutal. It’s kinda insane to give this much power to a first year head coach. But it it’s pretty much on the Allen pick. For a team that was labeled as "tanking" but made the playoffs, with some help yes, I say he's overachieved with what they were expecting it him from his first year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Russ was definitely Leroi imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Doing it his way and there is no other way that it should be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baskingridgebillsfan Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 I feel bad for Whaley he never got to own the job, Perhaps it was his shortcomings that allowed him to always be pushed to the side . We may never know but one thing is clear he was general manager in name only 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffHead Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 (edited) 11 hours ago, baskingridgebillsfan said: I feel bad for Whaley he never got to own the job, Perhaps it was his shortcomings that allowed him to always be pushed to the side . We may never know but one thing is clear he was general manager in name only He was a scout who got a role he didn’t deserve handed to him by another scout who got a job he didn’t deserve (ole boy buddy nix). And they were both bumbling idiots Edited May 3, 2018 by FluffHead 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baskingridgebillsfan Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, FluffHead said: He was a scout who got a role he didn’t deserve handed to him by another scout who got a job he didn’t deserve (ole boy buddy nix). And they were both humbling idiots couldn't disagree more 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffHead Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 1 minute ago, baskingridgebillsfan said: couldn't disagree more Whaley maybe was alright at identifying talent but he was not a well rounded GM. There are a ton of other roles the GM has to take on and quite frankly he was embarrassingly inept at them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HT02 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Sad story to hear, he a a local kid who made it to the top. I hope he is able to reflect on what went wrong and get better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 1 hour ago, baskingridgebillsfan said: I feel bad for Whaley he never got to own the job, Perhaps it was his shortcomings that allowed him to always be pushed to the side . We may never know but one thing is clear he was general manager in name only Whaley would be best fit in a pro personnel role Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 3 hours ago, The Jokeman said: So does this mean Brandon was the leak the years of Whaley and Rex? Said it before, I've been convinced Brandon is behind all of the fighting that went down between Whaley and Marrone, and Whaley and Rex. Played the GM and HC off of each other to keep himself safe. Dude was a culture cancer in the building. Glad to see him gone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Said it before, I've been convinced Brandon is behind all of the fighting that went down between Whaley and Marrone, and Whaley and Rex. Played the GM and HC off of each other to keep himself safe. Dude was a culture cancer in the building. Glad to see him gone. I think that’s plausible. Deuces, Russ. and... Janet Snyder?? Bruh. Edited May 3, 2018 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 McD power move. +1 for McDermott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
switz1610 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 I just looked real quick and RB was not in any pictures of the Edmunds/Allen trip to OBD or in the draft war room gallery (at least, a picture of him in focus). They knew he was getting canned before the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Don’t like it. I’m fine with him on defense but our offense decision have been pretty brutal. It’s kinda insane to give this much power to a first year head coach. But it it’s pretty much on the Allen pick. To dictate that the GM couldn’t be at initial meetings comes across as an issue right out of the gate. I’ve not been super comfortable with how pegula has handled things - but fingers crossed it’ll work out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 3 hours ago, The Jokeman said: So does this mean Brandon was the leak the years of Whaley and Rex? Whaley was the mole, I'm 100% sure of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 6 minutes ago, NoSaint said: To dictate that the GM couldn’t be at initial meetings comes across as an issue right out of the gate. I’ve not been super comfortable with how pegula has handled things - but fingers crossed it’ll work out It’s odd but I do know Whaley had a poor reputation around the league according to at least one FO person I know. I’m not privy to this but wouldn’t be surprised if his agreeing to interview with the Bills was conditional on the plan that Whaley would not be retained. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: It’s odd but I do know Whaley had a poor reputation around the league according to at least one FO person I know. I’m not privy to this but wouldn’t be surprised if his agreeing to interview with the Bills was conditional on the plan that Whaley would not be retained. I don’t doubt that- but I think that we should’ve just retained the scouts and hired a new GM in January instead of post free agency and draft it seems dysfunctional to handle it this way if that’s what happened. Edited May 3, 2018 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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