Threedollabills Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 (edited) Not sure if this has been floated yet, but I would like to know about how TBD feels about Jordan Palmer. Edited May 1, 2018 by Threedollabills 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 If it is actually helping Allen? Yesterday 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 First off, I think he's probably happy with his life. Less accountability, less travel, rent paid for on a house on Capistrano Beach Second and more important, someone pointed out that under the CBA, the strict limits on player-coach contact outside the season would make it impossible for him to continue to work with Josh Allen next offseason. If they have a successful and helpful working relationship, might not be the wise thing to bust that up. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, Threedollabills said: Not sure if this has been floated yet, but I would like to know about how TBD feels about Jordan Palmer. Yes! I've been advocating for this since last Thursday night. They have a great repoire and he is making progress per all reports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 I read an article where the Bills said Daboll and Culley will be his primary day to day coaches and Palmer can be a mentor on the side if he wants 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 I think that would be awesome. But he's carved out a nice little niche for himself. Every year he's working with one of the top QBs in the Draft. This year he had two. He's being recognized as the go-to guy come Draft time. I wouldn't give that gig up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: First off, I think he's probably happy with his life. Less accountability, less travel, rent paid for on a house on Capistrano Beach Second and more important, someone pointed out that under the CBA, the strict limits on player-coach contact outside the season would make it impossible for him to continue to work with Josh Allen next offseason. If they have a successful and helpful working relationship, might not be the wise thing to bust that up. Pay Palmer thru a "shell company" in the Bahama's. All the other corporations do it. jk Edited May 1, 2018 by ColoradoBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Y. Orangeman Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 He has his own company, aside from this consulting business. He isn't interested in grinding in the NFL as a position coach: https://www.commonthreadco.com/jordan-palmer/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Why would he give up a niche that he works so hard to create? Just to go on one team? I don't think so because then, like the bills front office, he's hanging his hat and his future solely on Josh Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 I'd love it, but as other have mentioned, it doesn't make sense for Jordan. I do think we need someone who can keep on Allen about mechanics on a day-to-day level. Maybe Culley is that, but I'm not terribly confident given that he's always been a WR guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 He probably makes more coaching up QB prospects and doesn't have to live the nomadic life of a position coach. He just had 2 students drafted in the Top 10. That's the best advertisement that his clinic can have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threedollabills Posted May 1, 2018 Author Share Posted May 1, 2018 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: First off, I think he's probably happy with his life. Less accountability, less travel, rent paid for on a house on Capistrano Beach Second and more important, someone pointed out that under the CBA, the strict limits on player-coach contact outside the season would make it impossible for him to continue to work with Josh Allen next offseason. If they have a successful and helpful working relationship, might not be the wise thing to bust that up. Oh ok thanks for filling me in on the CBA. I guess the real question should be: Would Palmer be more effective as an offseason guru than a QB coach asst or personal trainer during the season? I'm not saying that Palmer is QB coach material but he seems to favour Allen over Darnold and apparently Allen grew by miles under Palmer's tutelage. 18 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: I think that would be awesome. But he's carved out a nice little niche for himself. Every year he's working with one of the top QBs in the Draft. This year he had two. He's being recognized as the go-to guy come Draft time. I wouldn't give that gig up. McBeane always goes on about the Pegula resource centre. They could make him an offer he couldn't refuse. Furthermore, It wouldn't stop Palmer from making bank doing that gig during the offseason. Would it in terms of CBA Hapless Bills Fan? 17 minutes ago, Green Lightning said: Why would he give up a niche that he works so hard to create? Just to go on one team? I don't think so because then, like the bills front office, he's hanging his hat and his future solely on Josh Allen. One year deal only Edited May 1, 2018 by Threedollabills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Sure why not. Team President too much right off the bat? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo86 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 (edited) We have yet to see Allen take an NFL snap; how do we know if Palmer's any good? From Palmer's website: "NFL Draft prep has allowed me to train some of the top guys the past 3 years such as Blake Bortles, Keith Price, Sean Mannion and Christian Hackenberg." Not exactly a murderers' row of QBs. Edited May 2, 2018 by Buffalo86 dumbass 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 leave Palmer to have his niche. If I'm hiring someone it might be someone like Orlovsky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 these gurus make a fortune Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosen-not-Chosen Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Why oh why does everyone think this guy is some kind of QB whisperer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 1 hour ago, BillsFanForever19 said: I think that would be awesome. But he's carved out a nice little niche for himself. Every year he's working with one of the top QBs in the Draft. This year he had two. He's being recognized as the go-to guy come Draft time. I wouldn't give that gig up. I get the enjoying what you do but it depends on how much he's paid. Do you think Darnold and Allen even paid him 25K each? I mean how much can that cost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansLanda Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, White Linen said: I get the enjoying what you do but it depends on how much he's paid. Do you think Darnold and Allen even paid him 25K each? I mean how much can that cost? It was three months - every day, all day. It's probably more like $100k/guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said: I read an article where the Bills said Daboll and Culley will be his primary day to day coaches and Palmer can be a mentor on the side if he wants ...it may be more beneficial to free lance as needed versus being tied down to day to day rigors of a QB Coach...he's a big boy that can make that call.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 I have posted this before in other threads - NO! If he is a coach he has greater limits set by NFLPA when he can practice, etc. As a private consultant he is only limited by Allen paying him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Wait till Daboll starts working with him. Should be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Byrd Man Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: First off, I think he's probably happy with his life. Less accountability, less travel, rent paid for on a house on Capistrano Beach Second and more important, someone pointed out that under the CBA, the strict limits on player-coach contact outside the season would make it impossible for him to continue to work with Josh Allen next offseason. If they have a successful and helpful working relationship, might not be the wise thing to bust that up. That makes a lot of sense. The CBA does seem to cramp development by limiting interaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 2 hours ago, Threedollabills said: Not sure if this has been floated yet, but I would like to know about how TBD feels about Jordan Palmer. Would love it, but Jordan stated on NFL radio - he was happy doing what he is doing. I don’t think he wants to take on the year round rigors of a coaching position. He makes great money working a couple of months with these guys and is becoming a go to guy - especially after Darnold’s Pro Day where everyone was raving about how Palmer put together his throws to highlight skill and minimize mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 1 hour ago, HansLanda said: It was three months - every day, all day. It's probably more like $100k/guy. Maybe, but that seems crazy high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threedollabills Posted May 2, 2018 Author Share Posted May 2, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Rosen-not-Chosen said: Why oh why does everyone think this guy is some kind of QB whisperer? Cuz he whispered to every GM that ROSEN is Ricky Schroeder on the inside...my guess is he quits before getting injured repeatedly to the tune of his new mentor. Hopefully ol' Sammy B doesn't teach Rosen how to be unavailable to play due to injury. BOOM SHAKALAKKA!!!! #silverspoons #joshandbrad4eva Edited May 2, 2018 by Threedollabills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 I vote no, Allen gets more work in as is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStateofWarshingtun Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 (edited) Might be a dumb question. Someone tell my why his career in the NFL never really took off? I dont know much about him. Did he just overall lack the talent? I see he had some good size. Edited May 2, 2018 by TheStateofWarshingtun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorp83 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 This is really a good idea... you should call Howard & Jeremy with this one. Or get at Sal & see if he can suggest it to Beane or someone in the building. 7 hours ago, TheStateofWarshingtun said: Might be a dumb question. Someone tell my why his career in the NFL never really took off? I dont know much about him. Did he just overall lack the talent? I see he had some good size. Some people aren't good in the NFL but they just understand the game or positions so well, they'll make an excellent coach. Like our guy, Frank Reich... or Alex Van Pelt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 12 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: First off, I think he's probably happy with his life. Less accountability, less travel, rent paid for on a house on Capistrano Beach Second and more important, someone pointed out that under the CBA, the strict limits on player-coach contact outside the season would make it impossible for him to continue to work with Josh Allen next offseason. If they have a successful and helpful working relationship, might not be the wise thing to bust that up. Excellent points, especially about the house on the beach ....why would he want to move to Buffalo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergie's ire Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 12 hours ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: leave Palmer to have his niche. If I'm hiring someone it might be someone like Orlovsky Yeah....need someone to teach running out of the back of the end zone. That kind of unawareness doesn't come naturally. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0OkR986LL4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, fergie's ire said: Yeah....need someone to teach running out of the back of the end zone. That kind of unawareness doesn't come naturally. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0OkR986LL4 You're right, let's go with the guy that threw a whopping 18 NFL passes in his career... For 0 TDs and 2 INTs, no less... Edited May 2, 2018 by BuffaloHokie13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 @BringBackFergy have been advocating for Jordan Palmer to come back since the day Whaley got his head stuck so far up his hind end, that he made the mistake of cutting him. Best QB we've had since Alex Van Pelt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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