HappyDays Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 21 minutes ago, Klaista2k said: I'm happy we got in but If Andy Dalton didn't connect on 4th and 12 the drought would still be active. We gotta be realistic this team needs a lot of work. So if the Bengals/Ravens game had been week 1 and a Ravens victory had been in week 17, does that mean we would have got in solely on our win against the Dolphins? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennstate10 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 11 minutes ago, bigK14094 said: I am not a fan of this stragedy. The Bills have way to may holes to fill. Lots of sub par journeymen being signed, so, the trade up play is set. Unless McCarron is a genius we are going to have a bad year or three. Not enough lb's,wrs, defensive line guys etc etc. This is watkins version 2.0. And, odds are it will come out the same way. I don't have an opinion on the top 5, but, even at best, quoting the stats elsewhere on this board, chances of a franchise qb in the top 5 are 1 in 3. Not my kind of bet. Color me disengaged and taking two years off as a fan if they do the trade up. Brilliant invention!! Stragedy definition-- a tragic or failed strategy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 53 minutes ago, Klaista2k said: I don't think the Giants are moving down so only way it happens is with the Browns at 1 or 4. The Browns were rumored to be trying to switch top spots with the Giants, but no way are they dropping from #1 to #12 even though they still have the #4 pick. They probably would part with #4 for the right price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 17 minutes ago, bigK14094 said: I am not a fan of this stragedy. The Bills have way to may holes to fill. Lots of sub par journeymen being signed, so, the trade up play is set. Unless McCarron is a genius we are going to have a bad year or three. Not enough lb's,wrs, defensive line guys etc etc. This is watkins version 2.0. And, odds are it will come out the same way. I don't have an opinion on the top 5, but, even at best, quoting the stats elsewhere on this board, chances of a franchise qb in the top 5 are 1 in 3. Not my kind of bet. Color me disengaged and taking two years off as a fan if they do the trade up. QB >>>>>>>> WR. This is nothing like Sammy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. ChumChums Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 18 minutes ago, bigK14094 said: Color me disengaged and taking two years off as a fan if they do the trade up. You'll be back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 I would much rather hear that the Bills were all in on trading up into the top 5 and have a willing partner. This is driving me nuts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 33 minutes ago, Buffalo Bills Detective said: Can you explain your references ? Whose this guy ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 29 minutes ago, bigK14094 said: I am not a fan of this stragedy. The Bills have way to may holes to fill. Lots of sub par journeymen being signed, so, the trade up play is set. Unless McCarron is a genius we are going to have a bad year or three. Not enough lb's,wrs, defensive line guys etc etc. This is watkins version 2.0. And, odds are it will come out the same way. I don't have an opinion on the top 5, but, even at best, quoting the stats elsewhere on this board, chances of a franchise qb in the top 5 are 1 in 3. Not my kind of bet. Color me disengaged and taking two years off as a fan if they do the trade up. k bye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billykay Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Yeah sure. They traded up to 12 just to trade down. I think he was kidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Detective Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: Can you explain your references ? Whose this guy ? It's Mike Schopp. Like Klaista, he's a constant pessimist who hates the Bills, football in general, and would rather talk about baseball and old Saturday Night Live skits than sports. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 35 minutes ago, Klaista2k said: I'm happy we got in but If Andy Dalton didn't connect on 4th and 12 the drought would still be active. We gotta be realistic this team needs a lot of work. The Bills made the playoffs because of the Dalton play and the roughly 15,000 minutes of football that preceded it (and the minute or so after it when Flacco had the ball). In the interest of brevity I did not calculate camp time and/or relative time invested in traded, cuts and/or acquisitions. Realism is fine, but ignoring the work that got them to the point where Dalton' s pass actually mattered seems silly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamkrgr Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Trade up for a top QB. Get the best guy possible. The team has holes but the holes can be filled over the next decade while you have a good QB. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 48 minutes ago, Klaista2k said: We've made the playoffs one time in almost 20 years. Sorry if I'm pessimistic but this new regime has to prove themselves. Well, THIS regime made the playoffs last year and is batting .1000, so while I’m concerned about getting the right QB, I’m not confusing what happened 15 years ago with today’s FO. That streak is in the past. Relive it daily if you must, but I’m not inflicting that pain upon myself. I’ll judge them on what THEY actually do and the results THEY get. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Detective Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: The Bills made the playoffs because of the Dalton play and the roughly 15,000 minutes of football that preceded it (and the minute or so after it when Flacco had the ball). In the interest of brevity I did not calculate camp time and/or relative time invested in traded, cuts and/or acquisitions. Realism is fine, but ignoring the work that got them to the point where Dalton' s pass actually mattered seems silly. Klaista's post is what I would call: "The Mike Schopp World View." In other words, "if something didn't happen in the way I feel it should have happened, then it was all meaningless in the end." Edited March 30, 2018 by Buffalo Bills Detective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 1 hour ago, kdiggz said: They missed their window. It was 2 weeks ago with the Colts. I can't imagine anyone else trades out unless you grossly overpay Earth to Kdiggz, hellooooo Hellooo Jets already grossly overpaid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Just now, Magox said: Earth to Kdiggz, hellooooo Hellooo Jets already grossly overpaid it's going to be a bargain compared to what we would have to pay for 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Just now, kdiggz said: it's going to be a bargain compared to what we would have to pay for 2 We will see about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninATL Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 43 minutes ago, bigK14094 said: I am not a fan of this stragedy. The Bills have way to may holes to fill. Lots of sub par journeymen being signed, so, the trade up play is set. Unless McCarron is a genius we are going to have a bad year or three. Not enough lb's,wrs, defensive line guys etc etc. This is watkins version 2.0. And, odds are it will come out the same way. I don't have an opinion on the top 5, but, even at best, quoting the stats elsewhere on this board, chances of a franchise qb in the top 5 are 1 in 3. Not my kind of bet. Color me disengaged and taking two years off as a fan if they do the trade up. It's almost tragic ....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Whatever trade happens for a QB I just hope we keep #22 pick some how. We need help at LB badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turftoe Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Klaista2k said: Denver needs a QB too. We ain't getting into the 5. Should've tanked. If QBs go 1, 2, 3 then Denver will probably not take the 4th rated QB over Barkley or Chubb. Will Indy trade down again and possibly miss out on the 3rd rated non QB? If they really like the OL from Notre Dame, they may also make the pick. Pick number 7 looks like the sweet spot to trade up for the 4th QB. Their GM has already said he is looking at trade down offers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 The Bills are going to #2. It won't happen until draft night because they want to be 100% sure Cleveland hasn't taken their guy. The price will include our 2019 #1. Beane basically told us all this earlier this week. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, turftoe said: If QBs go 1, 2, 3 then Denver will probably not take the 4th rated QB over Barkley or Chubb. Will Indy trade down again and possibly miss out on the 3rd rated non QB? If they really like the OL from Notre Dame, they may also make the pick. Pick number 7 looks like the sweet spot to trade up for the 4th QB. Their GM has already said he is looking at trade down offers. They won't take the 4th best QB but we will? Why is it good enough for us but not them? Denver is the only team to have the GM and HC at every QB pro day but they aren't taking a QB? I don't get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 How do you spell Bills with an apostrophe? Don't you have to go out of your way to get the apostrophe in there? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Just now, BillnutinHouston said: How do you spell Bills with an apostrophe? Don't you have to go out of your way to get the apostrophe in there? Bill is all in, not the Bills. Bill is the OP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Klaista2k said: I'm happy we got in but If Andy Dalton didn't connect on 4th and 12 the drought would still be active. We gotta be realistic this team needs a lot of work. If it's and buts were candy and nuts, we'd all have a merry christmas. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 1 minute ago, BillnutinHouston said: How do you spell Bills with an apostrophe? Don't you have to go out of your way to get the apostrophe in there? English is hard man. Two To Too many rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninATL Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, BillnutinHouston said: How do you spell Bills with an apostrophe? Don't you have to go out of your way to get the apostrophe in there? one of my pet peeves - blatant misuse of unnecessary apostrophes. Like fingernails on a chalkboard. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 2 hours ago, Klaista2k said: I don't think the Giants are moving down so only way it happens is with the Browns at 1 or 4. Agreed. The "source" at OBD may have intentionally planted false "information" to goad another team to make another move based on that information. This would in turn force a prospect down where the cost would be less if that prospect was sitting there at 6. Somebody on here recently indicated that OBD was airtight in terms of information and I would tend to believe that until a leak can be proven to exist. In any event I will believe it when I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turftoe Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, kdiggz said: They won't take the 4th best QB but we will? Why is it good enough for us but not them? Denver is the only team to have the GM and HC at every QB pro day but they aren't taking a QB? I don't get it They did sign Case Keenum but may pick a QB if the right one falls to them. They did have Mayfield on their squad at the Senior Bowl so they certainly could go that way if they really like him. My point is that if 3 out of the top 4 QBs are gone and Barkley or Chubb is sitting there, they may make the pick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 2 hours ago, Klaista2k said: I'm happy we got in but If Andy Dalton didn't connect on 4th and 12 the drought would still be active. We gotta be realistic this team needs a lot of work. It was actually cause TT won 9 games. Yeah I know he is not an NFL caliber QB. What team doesnt need work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnbillsbacker Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 I hope the Bills are all in on signing the raider's ex punter King. That guy adds dancing and entertainment to punts and I have the feeling there will be a lot of punts next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezertbill Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 2 hours ago, Jamie Muellers Ghost said: Per Robert Klemko Sports Illustrated per source in Bill's organization. Same series of tweets where he mentions Baker Mayfield's 4th meeting and visit with Bill's. I can see Mayfield being a favorite of McD. He is competitive and has an underdog mentality. McD had the same coming from a small school DB. Some may say Mayfield is overconfident, some say cocky. But he is a QB when your down two TD's with five minutes to go that you want in your huddle telling the guys "we're gonna do this" As for the moving up thing, This is a no brainer. Bills are merely trying to throw smoke screens so that they have to give up the least amount of collateral to move up But make no mistake, they are moving up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 2 hours ago, kdiggz said: They missed their window. It was 2 weeks ago with the Colts. I can't imagine anyone else trades out unless you grossly overpay I fear you may be correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 I fear that the Browns will want Barkley too badly at 4 and the Broncos want Mayfield at 5. There just might not be a trade to be had at almost any reasonable price. I wouldn't mind taking Lamar Jackson at 12 and using the rest of the picks to fill out the rest of the roster. If you can't get Mayfield or one of the top non-Allen QB's then go for a project QB like Jackson with massive potential and build the rest of the team up around AJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: The Bills are going to #2. It won't happen until draft night because they want to be 100% sure Cleveland hasn't taken their guy. The price will include our 2019 #1. Beane basically told us all this earlier this week. Who be dat guy!!! I’m pretty sure Darnold is gone first. Who would YOU take at #2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: The Bills are going to #2. It won't happen until draft night because they want to be 100% sure Cleveland hasn't taken their guy. The price will include our 2019 #1. Beane basically told us all this earlier this week. The limb you are daring to go on is on the verge of snapping. Get off of it right now before you hurt yourself! Is the qb you are speculating about either Rosen or Allen? Edited March 30, 2018 by JohnC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankoElTanko Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 4 hours ago, Buffalo Bills Detective said: MAJBobby just had a thunderous orgasm upon reading this. As did I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 4 hours ago, kdiggz said: They missed their window. It was 2 weeks ago with the Colts. I can't imagine anyone else trades out unless you grossly overpay Holy smokes, can you regurgitate this same argument anymore? We understand - the Jets hopped up to 3. Maybe the price was too steep from 12? You sound like a jilted lover. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Detective Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: Holy smokes, can you regurgitate this same argument anymore? We understand - the Jets hopped up to 3. Maybe the price was too steep from 12? You sound like a jilted lover. Or, it could be possibly be due to the fact that the Colts DIDN'T WANT TO TRADE OUTSIDE OF THE TOP 10??? Why don't people get this???? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Buffalo Bills Detective said: Or, it could be possibly be due to the fact that the Colts DIDN'T WANT TO TRADE OUTSIDE OF THE TOP 10??? Why don't people get this???? That too. But don’t let anyone know I agreed with you. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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