Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 1 minute ago, whatdrought said: Not sure it's an upgrade from EJ, but definitely alright with not overpaying EJ. Good to see them making the moves they need to to make the team better! Better man CB. EJ was a great fit for the D though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA Grant Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 1 minute ago, whatdrought said: Not sure it's an upgrade from EJ, but definitely alright with not overpaying EJ. Good to see them making the moves they need to to make the team better! In terms of play it may be a wash as Vonate's getting older & both have injury concerns. Arguably the leadership element makes a sizable difference, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Just now, LA Grant said: In terms of play it may be a wash as Vonate's getting older & both have injury concerns. Arguably the leadership element makes a sizable difference, as well. In which way? I seem to remember Vontae being a bit of a cancer in Miami wasn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Just now, Doc said: Yeah but for how much? Talk is ~$9M/year. I don't know, honestly. I have been thinking it over. We saw the worth of a defense that can create turnovers when he was in the lineup. We saw what happens to our defense when he plays. I have a feeling that he was as much the answer as any other individual on the team. For that I'm willing to spend a little bit and I think we could save a little bit by extending him I'm more than just a three-year deal because I don't think a team is really going to want to throw that much money at him right now. I'd do 4 yrs for $32mm with a fancy up front bonus to put him over $10mm the first two years. And incentives all over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA Grant Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 1 minute ago, whatdrought said: I do hope they add one more quality corner this offseason. Either re-signing Gaines (though I'm sure the price will preclude that) or signing someone like Aaron Colvin for the slot. My guess is a CB in Rd 3 or 4. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodneykm Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Hell yeah!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 I'll honestly miss Gaines a bit , now that it looks like he won't be back Hopefully Davis thinks he's still got big game left (hence the 1 year deal for bigger $$ down the road) and he meshes well with our secondary We upgrade our nickel spot by a bit and our secondary looks really nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Beane's asleep at the wheel again 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: Better man CB. EJ was a great fit for the D though. If we can keep Gaines, would love to see Davis in slot or vice versa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Just now, LA Grant said: My guess is a CB in Rd 3 or 4. It is a deep CB draft. I expect Donte Jackson to be highly overdrafted if he shows well this week, but if he's there in the later rounds I like his speed and the LSU connection with Tre'. Not sure how he fits McD's system though. I have never been one to understand the defensive backfield enough to comment on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: Id still sign him to a 3 to 4 yr deal knowing we have Davis, can draft a late round cb and get Coleman. 2 minutes ago, Doc said: Yeah but for how much? Talk is ~$9M/year. this happens with every FA, draft prospect, whatever. "JUST DRAFT PLAYER X" (except he's gone before we get to him/nobody willing to let us trade up) "JUST SIGN PLAYER Y" (except he costs more than we think he's worth/more than he is worth/don't have enough cap space) this isn't madden with the salary cap turned "off" you need to make smart decisions regarding what players to keep/what players to let walk i would love to keep gaines, but not @ $9m/year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 So excited!!! This secondary is going to be nasty next year. Davis gets to be CB2 in our D, he should dominate in that position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Beanes gone rogue 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 8 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: If he returns to form he would be an easy player to franchise tag. You probably wouldn't have to. He'd probably sign on a relatively team friendly deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 27, 2018 Author Share Posted February 27, 2018 On 2/22/2018 at 10:31 AM, DrDawkinstein said: Bay Area vs. Rust Belt. Not a contest. I'd go SF if I were him. ✍️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 6 minutes ago, ChevyVanMiller said: It's so nice to see the Bills making all of the right moves, strange, but nice. Where have you been the last 12 months? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 My guess is that this signing is a warning to Gaines as much as anything else. They have their $ amount and they aren't going up. If he wants to go somewhere else that's his right. I think he'd be stupid to leave given how good McD made him look this past year, but money talks... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said: I'll honestly miss Gaines a bit , now that it looks like he won't be back Hopefully Davis thinks he's still got big game left (hence the 1 year deal for bigger $$ down the road) and he meshes well with our secondary We upgrade our nickel spot by a bit and our secondary looks really nice Me too, but Davis is going to be much cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: I don't know, honestly. I have been thinking it over. We saw the worth of a defense that can create turnovers when he was in the lineup. We saw what happens to our defense when he plays. I have a feeling that he was as much the answer as any other individual on the team. For that I'm willing to spend a little bit and I think we could save a little bit by extending him I'm more than just a three-year deal because I don't think a team is really going to want to throw that much money at him right now. I'd do 4 yrs for $32mm with a fancy up front bonus to put him over $10mm the first two years. And incentives all over. I'd do 4/$26 with major playing time and production incentives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Just now, billspro said: Me too, but Davis is going to be much cheaper. Is it out yet what we are paying him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 1 minute ago, billspro said: So excited!!! This secondary is going to be nasty next year. Davis gets to be CB2 in our D, he should dominate in that position. Hopefully less so than Boyst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA Grant Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, whatdrought said: In which way? I seem to remember Vontae being a bit of a cancer in Miami wasn't he? Was he? I honestly don't really remember him that well from his time there, he was just another guy to me. Paid more attention to him the last few years when Indy would play primetime and thought he was well respected. But I could be misremembering or something. My thought was, I like the idea of an older veteran CB with Tre, rather than Tre & a rookie CB, or an overpaid Gaines. Either way I think the only concern with Vontae is the same as EJ, the injuries. Edit: Also, Incognito was a cancer in Miami who ended up being a good leader here (it seems). A totally different situation, just thought of the Dolphins connection. Edited February 27, 2018 by LA Grant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co_springs_billsfan Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 The $ matters obviously, but getting this done now allows the Bills to avoid panicking later on depending on what happens with the Gaines situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 27, 2018 Author Share Posted February 27, 2018 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, whatdrought said: It is a deep CB draft. I expect Donte Jackson to be highly overdrafted if he shows well this week, but if he's there in the later rounds I like his speed and the LSU connection with Tre'. Not sure how he fits McD's system though. I have never been one to understand the defensive backfield enough to comment on that. He is not a good zone CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said: Is it out yet what we are paying him? Not yet, I'm just guessing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Vontae Davis to Sign One-Year Contract with Bills Vontae Davis has found a new home. NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported Monday the former Indianapolis Colts cornerback is signing a one-year deal with the Buffalo Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Great signing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mr. WEO Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 27 minutes ago, FearLess Price said: One year prove it deal? I like it. Me too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, Doc said: I'd do 4/$26 with major playing time and production incentives. If we front load the contract then I think we can boost it up a little bit more, I'd be fine going a little over that 26 mil PS. I don't like the number 26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 17 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: White Davis Poyer Hyde Thats as good a secondary as there is in the NFL right now IMO. No question about it. No Fly Zone is in effect!!! Just imagine how much better they can be with an upgraded front 7 too!! Davis is a pure ,born to play football player, perfect fit for this roster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 6 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: I don't know, honestly. I have been thinking it over. We saw the worth of a defense that can create turnovers when he was in the lineup. We saw what happens to our defense when he plays. I have a feeling that he was as much the answer as any other individual on the team. For that I'm willing to spend a little bit and I think we could save a little bit by extending him I'm more than just a three-year deal because I don't think a team is really going to want to throw that much money at him right now. I'd do 4 yrs for $32mm with a fancy up front bonus to put him over $10mm the first two years. And incentives all over. 3 minutes ago, Doc said: I'd do 4/$26 with major playing time and production incentives. i'm with Doc on this one. sporttrac has him projected at 4 years ~$38 mil overthecap has him projected at 4 years ~$25 mil i think 4/$25-28 is fair for him, given his injury history the issue with playing time/production incentives is that he will be the #3 corner on the roster behind white and davis that's just a fact (at least going into the situation) that means you're paying a #3 corner top 15 money, trying to calculate incentive triggers for somebody who isn't even a starter 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Vontae Davis to Sign One-Year Contract with Bills Vontae Davis has found a new home. NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported Monday the former Indianapolis Colts cornerback is signing a one-year deal with the Buffalo Bills. i'm a little bummed it's only 1 year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, Commonsense said: He is not a good zone CB. Thanks for the insight! Any knowledge of Jaire Alexander? I have seen a lot of mixed reviews about him but have heard some good things about his skill set and see where he might drop to the mid 3rd? (Though I have also seen him in round 1 in some places) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChevyVanMiller Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS said: Where have you been the last 12 months? I've been busy reading how the Matthews, Vlad, DiMarco signings cost a comp pick, that's where. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 31 minutes ago, jmc12290 said: HUGE Love the signing. But more importantly you beat 26CB and Yolo and earned a badge. Quite the story to tell your grandkids. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, SouthNYfan said: i'm with Doc on this one. sporttrac has him projected at 4 years ~$38 mil overthecap has him projected at 4 years ~$25 mil i think 4/$25-28 is fair for him, given his injury history the issue with playing time/production incentives is that he will be the #3 corner on the roster behind white and davis that's just a fact (at least going into the situation) that means you're paying a #3 corner top 15 money, trying to calculate incentive triggers for somebody who isn't even a starter i'm a little bummed it's only 1 year 1 year prove it deal with a more cap space in '19 to ink him to a longer deal. I think that works for both sides. Edited February 27, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGun12TD Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 I TRUST and LOVE THE PROCESS! I am not worthy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 i'm a little bummed it's a 1 year "prove it" deal what if he does "prove it" do we pony up top $$ for a 31 year old CB? i would have preferred a 2-3 year deal with heavy incentives i also don't think we can keep gaines now, he's looking to be 4/$25-37 mil projected davis is not going to enter this deal expecting to be a #3 corner, which means we'd be paying gaines top 15 CB $$ to be our #3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Wow that's impressive. With 3 studs surrounding him , the secondary guru in McD, good luck passing on this secondary. Love the signing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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