Jamie Muellers Ghost Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Cadet’s injury was of the 6-12 week variety so he should be ok. It looked worse than it was. Murph and Donald mentioned today he is still not on his feet FWIW. Find me the next Kamara. Edited February 27, 2018 by Jamie Muellers Ghost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 1 hour ago, billieve420 said: Everything in life is a crap shoot. I have no problem with the Bills meeting with Ivory seeing what his interest is, potential roles, contract #'s etc... For me he is a guy I can wait to sign until after the draft and I have a better idea what remaining holes need to be filled. If not I am sure there will be post June 1st cuts with other RBs available. We picked up both Jones and Cadet late who both did a decent job. I agree with that. I just made a comment that I think there are better odds (or teams can leverage their odds better) in the draft than a coin flip. However, since you brought up the thought of signing Ivory. Depends how the contract is structured. If it doesn't effect the cap and it really barely does on a one year deal. Lots of depth players get signed and then cut before the end of camp. Essentially signing a vet like Ivory to a one year deal if cut before camp would leave us taking a cap hit for the signing bonus and paying out the signing bonus. Let's call the signing bonus $300K. We take a cap hit for $300K, the owner pays out $300K and we have secured Ivory as our depth. If we have better depth when camp breaks we cut him. A two year deal can be very similar depending on the structure, but, really just the signing bonus is the cap hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 40 minutes ago, Jamie Muellers Ghost said: Murph and Donald mentioned today he is still not on his feet FWIW. Find me the next Kamara. His name is Sony Michel! Git R done McBeane. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, horned dogs said: His name is Sony Michel! Git R done McBeane. I like Michel but he is more of a north/south runner he doesn't have the elusiveness of Kamara he brings the hammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Totally on board for bringing in Ivory, retaining Cadet (injury-permitting), and drafting a guy in rounds 4 or 5, like J. Adams (ND) or I. Smith (Miss St). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 9 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: I like Michel but he is more of a north/south runner he doesn't have the elusiveness of Kamara he brings the hammer I think we need some power in the backfield...no more TOLBERT....perhaps Ivory can fill that. Michel is a good receiver and blocker as well, could be Shady II. I don't think he's been overused in college either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Don't forget the Bills still have Taiwan Jones on the roster. He's a talented back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 2 hours ago, Manther said: HMMMM..........IMO....... Tolbert serves ZERO on field purpose. Any other purpose Tolbert serves does not make up for his inabilities on the field. He is just not good enough anymore to make a positive impact over the course of the full year. So, he serves no purpose when you only have 53 roster spots. If we want Tolbert to be a part of the team hire him as a coach. How does getting rid of a pro-bowler make us better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, horned dogs said: I think we need some power in the backfield...no more TOLBERT....perhaps Ivory can fill that. Michel is a good receiver and blocker as well, could be Shady II. I don't think he's been overused in college either. Definitely. If he somehow fell and we can nab a back like that he would bring the thunder to shadys lightning and be tough to stop 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 27, 2018 Author Share Posted February 27, 2018 5 minutes ago, the skycap said: Don't forget the Bills still have Taiwan Jones on the roster. He's a talented back. He’s a FA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Any run that Tolbert got 4+ yards on, Ivory or most rookies would probably of broke for a big gain. I’d like to move On from Tolbert. I always felt like that move was a strategic move to have a Vet that was a McDermott guy on the team from day 1. Does Tolbert play special teams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 You know, all these potential moves the Bills are doing doesn’t only mean they might be planning to trade up and grab their guy...it could also mean they’re going to try and go all out for Cousins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Just now, Domdab99 said: You know, all these potential moves the Bills are doing doesn’t only mean they might be planning to trade up and grab their guy...it could also mean they’re going to try and go all out for Cousins. I just look at them as upgrading positions (or at the very least not downgrading) for now. V. Davis is a beast.....I also thought EJ Gaines is a beast as well...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Many solid RB's in this draft for the Bills not to land two of them (draft pick and an UDFA, maybe). Really no need to sign Ivory. They already have a 30 year old RB on the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 For all those who feel signing Ivory prevents drafting a HB... why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 51 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Definitely. If he somehow fell and we can nab a back like that he would bring the thunder to shadys lightning and be tough to stop I was hoping for someone better than Ivory for that role. I'd rather go after Blunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Just now, reddogblitz said: I was hoping for someone better than Ivory for that role. I'd rather go after Blunt. I went after a Blunt once. Ended up sleeping my way through the game. I really don't recommend we do that. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 27, 2018 Author Share Posted February 27, 2018 9 minutes ago, njbuff said: Many solid RB's in this draft for the Bills not to land two of them (draft pick and an UDFA, maybe). Really no need to sign Ivory. They already have a 30 year old RB on the roster. So you are going with Shady, two rookies, and Marcus Murphy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 1 minute ago, MiltonWaddams said: I went after a Blunt once. Ended up sleeping my way through the game. I really don't recommend we do that. Thanks for the advice, but I'm still all in on a Shady/Blunt one two punch next year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: So you are going with Shady, two rookies, and Marcus Murphy? This franchise needs to start spending draft capital on HBs. McCoy Guice (#21) Michel (#53) Murphy Boom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTheTrust Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 1 minute ago, reddogblitz said: Thanks for the advice, but I'm still all in on a Shady/Blunt one two punch next year! I think he's pointing out the difference between a Philly Blunt and a Cory Blount. Wait, just realizing he now is a Philly Blount. Carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 27, 2018 Author Share Posted February 27, 2018 15 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: This franchise needs to start spending draft capital on HBs. McCoy Guice (#21) Michel (#53) Murphy Boom. TBD would burn to the ground. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 30 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: I was hoping for someone better than Ivory for that role. I'd rather go after Blunt. Blount would be great! I love how he runs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 50 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: TBD would burn to the ground. ...BALANCE....it's all about BALANCE....thus 3 QB's and 3 HB's........equal burn....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swnybillsfan Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: TBD would burn to the ground. i think i might start throwing things if they grab a first round rb. and then follow it up with a 2nd rd rb. there would definitely be a lot of bad language. and my children may need therapy. 1 hour ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: This franchise needs to start spending draft capital on HBs. McCoy Guice (#21) Michel (#53) Murphy Boom. the Boom would be my head exploding. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 We should be looking to organize our backfield the way teams like the Pats and Eagles, by featuring different guys in specialized roles. The depth and injury problem is reduced and you don't have to spend as much as you would with frontline RB talent. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwithenvy Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 The more roster holes that can be plugged with guys outside the comp pick formula, the better. I think the fact that Bean has been in on both Ivory and Davis says they want to be on the right side of it this year if at all possible. Ivory's style makes for a good contrast to Shady and it would be a short term deal so I'm not worried about the ages. I still expect 2 rookies. 1 drafted, 1 UDFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 5 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: TBD would burn to the ground. No matter what the Bills do on draft Day TBD will burn to the ground. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 5 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: So you are going with Shady, two rookies, and Marcus Murphy? Shady and two rookie back ups are more than enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Kelly Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 A little off topic Can any of you experts share your thoughts on a guy like this for the Bills, perhaps undrafted free agent. FB/Hb/Te. Sooners Dad was also a Bill once http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/dimitri-flowers?DB_OEM_ID=31000&id=2560135 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Ned Kelly said: A little off topic Can any of you experts share your thoughts on a guy like this for the Bills, perhaps undrafted free agent. FB/Hb/Te. Sooners Dad was also a Bill once http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/dimitri-flowers?DB_OEM_ID=31000&id=2560135 His Dad was one of the worst draft picks in Bills history. Could be worth a flyer that the coin could land on the other side this time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 On 2/23/2018 at 12:47 PM, YoloinOhio said: I’ve always liked his running style. Would be a nice #2 back to replace Tolbert ..plus still draft one Forget drafting one, can get UDFAs easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 17 hours ago, reddogblitz said: Thanks for the advice, but I'm still all in on a Shady/Blunt one two punch next year! Blount! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 10 hours ago, Ned Kelly said: A little off topic Can any of you experts share your thoughts on a guy like this for the Bills, perhaps undrafted free agent. FB/Hb/Te. Sooners Dad was also a Bill once http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/dimitri-flowers?DB_OEM_ID=31000&id=2560135 He's a helluva receiving back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, MiltonWaddams said: Blount! I know. It got auto corrected the first game time so I rolled with it. Blount would look great in a Bills suit. Edited February 28, 2018 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 On 2/23/2018 at 11:00 AM, rodneykm said: Tolbert is still useful, but not as your main backup RB. I'd keep him on and look to someone maybe a little younger to back up Shady like McKinnon. RB - McCoy / McKinnon FB - DiMarco / Tolbert stop wasting roster spots on FB's. Many NFL teams don't even use one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 I am not one who thinks that quality RBs are a dime a dozen and that you can easily rely on late round draftees and UDFAs with no loss in quality, so I like that they are investigating accomplished options at RB. However, I do think that the majority of RBs have short shelf lifes in the NFL. I respect the career that Ivory has had, but I would not spend a lot on him to backup McCoy. I would be alright with a 2nd or 3rd round pick being spent on his backup as long as the draftee is a strong candidate to be McCoy’s eventual replacement. That being said, if they think that adding Ivory helps the culture and leadership that they are trying to instill, then by all means sign him up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodneykm Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 15 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: stop wasting roster spots on FB's. Many NFL teams don't even use one. Sorry. I'll get one of them released tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Frank Gore would be a good backup to pickup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 15 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: stop wasting roster spots on FB's. Many NFL teams don't even use one. Brian Daboll has used one everywhere he has been. His fullback in Kansas City was Patrick DiMarco. Pretty sure we will have one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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