Bakin Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 A) SIGN COUSINS & STAY PUT Round 1 Pick 21: Maurice Hurst, DT, Michigan Round 1 Pick 22: Tremaine Edmunds, OLB, Virginia Tech Round 2 Pick 21: Ronald Jones II, RB, Southern California Round 2 Pick 24: Harrison Phillips, DT, Stanford B) TRADE UP TO #3 Give up Round 1 Pick 21 (21) (BUF), Round 1 Pick 22 (22) (BUF), Round 2 Pick 21 (53) (BUF), Round 2 Pick 24 (56) (BUF), 2019 Round 1 Pick (BUF) Draft either Darnold\Rosen\Mayfield (whoever tickles your fancy) C) TRADE BACK from 22 & DRAFT A QB Round 1 Pick 21: Vita Vea, DT, Washington Round 1 Pick 30 (MINN): Lamar Jackson, QB, Louisville Round 2 Pick 21: Kolton Miller, OT, UCLA Round 2 Pick 24: Sony Michel, RB, Georgia Round 2 Pick 30 (MINN): Leighton Vander Esch, ILB, Boise State D) STAY PUT AND DRAFT BQBA Round 1 Pick 21: Mason Rudolph, QB, Oklahoma State Round 1 Pick 22: Billy Price, C/OG, Ohio State Round 2 Pick 21: DaShawn Hand, DE, Alabama Round 2 Pick 24: Dorance Armstrong Jr., DE/OLB, Kansas *obviously there is more to consider here like FA but it’s assumed here that Tyrod is gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Kelly Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 None of the above 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Cousins plan is the way to go. If we got Edmunds & Hurst in the first that would be awesome really awesome. I got those 2 as future pro bowlers . Plus Jones and Harrison in the 2nd that's great to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 I’d say choice A but I don’t want to draft a RB in the second round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 I'd give up our entire draft just to choose a franchise QB who we can have for 12 years not 5 years. I just want this team to actually hit on that position in the draft. Cousins is a fine QB but it makes me weary that Washington had him in house and didn't think enough of him to resign him to a big deal and Snyder loves blowing his money on players. This isn't just one you can chalk up as poor management, there have been several talking heads who say they wouldn't shell out big bucks for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 B. But it won't take that much to get to #3. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Don't like any of your scenarios or draft choices within the various options. I voted "B" however. People need to tune into the fact that Cousins just isn't that good. This forum grossly overrates his abilities, probably b/c most Bills fans aren't watching a lot of Skins games. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cage Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 I'm not sure about the specific players, but if we traded back, got 3 #2s and Lamar Jackson,... that would be exciting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 A, then C. But I don’t like either any of your picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 4 hours ago, GunnerBill said: B. But it won't take that much to get to #3. That’s where I’m at. The new draft value chart needs to be used. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 (edited) For anyone still thinking the Bills have a chance to sign Cousins, the Jets have over double the cap space of the Bills. Not going to happen. The Jets will give Cousins an offer he can't refuse. That leaves the Broncos, Cardinals and Bills in the running for Rosen, Allen and Jackson (assuming the Browns take Mayfield and the Giants take Darnold). There's probably a good chance that either the Broncos or Cardinals go the free agent QB or in a trade to get their starting QB (Keenum, McCarron, Foles, Bridgewater). The Bills have a great shot to get one of the top QBs. As very good as everyone thinks this QB class is, there are a lot of serious question marks with each first round QB prospect. I can see a scenario of Allen or Rosen (or both) fall to the Bills at #21. Once the slide starts happening, teams get very nervous to be the one to take a shot on that player. They see all the other teams shying away and think there's a real reason why no ones taking them. With Rosen it's the attitude and concussions, with Allen it's his actual play on the field that's being questioned. What about Lamar Jackson? He's a rare talent and he lights up the field and who will probably be there for them at #21. Edited February 19, 2018 by 1billsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 A sounds amazing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 6 hours ago, GunnerBill said: B. But it won't take that much to get to #3. LOL! Right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 B. Go get your QB for once. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Why are we getting a QB in all of these scenarios and in most of them avoiding assets to surround the QB with? No wide receivers??? I think you that is too much defense for my taste in a year where we are expected to get a QB. Getting a QB and then avoiding the other needs on offense is setting the QB up for failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakin Posted February 19, 2018 Author Share Posted February 19, 2018 35 minutes ago, Buffalo30 said: Why are we getting a QB in all of these scenarios and in most of them avoiding assets to surround the QB with? No wide receivers??? I think you that is too much defense for my taste in a year where we are expected to get a QB. Getting a QB and then avoiding the other needs on offense is setting the QB up for failure. I was picking BPA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasMac Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Buffalo30 said: Why are we getting a QB in all of these scenarios and in most of them avoiding assets to surround the QB with? No wide receivers??? I think you that is too much defense for my taste in a year where we are expected to get a QB. Getting a QB and then avoiding the other needs on offense is setting the QB up for failure. I think it's bc there just isn't much wr talent in this draft. Some better free agent options. Like maybe Paul Richardson. Loaded at rb though. Edited February 19, 2018 by DallasMac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 12 hours ago, Bakin said: A) SIGN COUSINS & STAY PUT Round 1 Pick 21: Maurice Hurst, DT, Michigan Round 1 Pick 22: Tremaine Edmunds, OLB, Virginia Tech Round 2 Pick 21: Ronald Jones II, RB, Southern California Round 2 Pick 24: Harrison Phillips, DT, Stanford B) TRADE UP TO #3 Give up Round 1 Pick 21 (21) (BUF), Round 1 Pick 22 (22) (BUF), Round 2 Pick 21 (53) (BUF), Round 2 Pick 24 (56) (BUF), 2019 Round 1 Pick (BUF) Draft either Darnold\Rosen\Mayfield (whoever tickles your fancy) C) TRADE BACK from 22 & DRAFT A QB Round 1 Pick 21: Vita Vea, DT, Washington Round 1 Pick 30 (MINN): Lamar Jackson, QB, Louisville Round 2 Pick 21: Kolton Miller, OT, UCLA Round 2 Pick 24: Sony Michel, RB, Georgia Round 2 Pick 30 (MINN): Leighton Vander Esch, ILB, Boise State D) STAY PUT AND DRAFT BQBA Round 1 Pick 21: Mason Rudolph, QB, Oklahoma State Round 1 Pick 22: Billy Price, C/OG, Ohio State Round 2 Pick 21: DaShawn Hand, DE, Alabama Round 2 Pick 24: Dorance Armstrong Jr., DE/OLB, Kansas *obviously there is more to consider here like FA but it’s assumed here that Tyrod is gone. No disrepsect, but I don’t like any of these. And the trade compensation to get to 3 is way way way over exaggerated. Not a chance it will take 3 first rounders and 2 second rounders, nor would Beane ever pay that. Of all the choices here, Cousins route would be best, but i don’t like who you are mocking as our picks. I would go Payne/Vita at DT instead then also grab Evans or Edmonds if Evans is gone. Could also use one of the picks on OL here too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 (edited) I went with C but have problems with every scenario. A. I've seen Cousins play and always thought he was average. Average shouldn't cost you 30 million per year. I also don't believe that Edmunds will be available at @22 and don't think Phillips will be there that late in the 2nd round. B. 3 Firsts and 2 seconds doesn't sound like something McBeane would do. C. I chose this but doubt Vea, Michel or Vander Esch will be there when we pick. D. Most likely scenario IMO Edited February 19, 2018 by frostbitmic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 B, but agree with the others that you are WAY off on the price to move up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWins Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Using Rich Hills Trade Chart the #2 pick is worth 717.17pts (#21 260.82pts and #22 252.71pts = 513.53pts) So basically, 3 #1 draft picks should cover it with perhaps a "sweetner" thrown in - maybe Glenn? maybe another 3rd rd? But not two more #2 picks certainly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 I just dont know if I want to be tied down to Cousins huge contract unless he is a franchise guy.....and there are a lot of differening opinions on that..... Meanwhile......players that we dont get at positions "non qb" can be found throughout the draft and in future drafts....this is supposed to be the draft supposidly where you go looking for your franchise guy Lets get him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 (edited) 13 hours ago, Bakin said: A) SIGN COUSINS & STAY PUT Round 1 Pick 21: Maurice Hurst, DT, Michigan Round 1 Pick 22: Tremaine Edmunds, OLB, Virginia Tech Round 2 Pick 21: Ronald Jones II, RB, Southern California Round 2 Pick 24: Harrison Phillips, DT, Stanford B) TRADE UP TO #3 Give up Round 1 Pick 21 (21) (BUF), Round 1 Pick 22 (22) (BUF), Round 2 Pick 21 (53) (BUF), Round 2 Pick 24 (56) (BUF), 2019 Round 1 Pick (BUF) Draft either Darnold\Rosen\Mayfield (whoever tickles your fancy) C) TRADE BACK from 22 & DRAFT A QB Round 1 Pick 21: Vita Vea, DT, Washington Round 1 Pick 30 (MINN): Lamar Jackson, QB, Louisville Round 2 Pick 21: Kolton Miller, OT, UCLA Round 2 Pick 24: Sony Michel, RB, Georgia Round 2 Pick 30 (MINN): Leighton Vander Esch, ILB, Boise State D) STAY PUT AND DRAFT BQBA Round 1 Pick 21: Mason Rudolph, QB, Oklahoma State Round 1 Pick 22: Billy Price, C/OG, Ohio State Round 2 Pick 21: DaShawn Hand, DE, Alabama Round 2 Pick 24: Dorance Armstrong Jr., DE/OLB, Kansas *obviously there is more to consider here like FA but it’s assumed here that Tyrod is gone. For me it's entirely a question of who is available at #3. Or for that matter, at 21/22 with regard to trading back. Edited February 19, 2018 by Hapless Bills Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: For me it's entirely a question of who is available at #3. Yep. I don't know if we can make this deal until the Giants select at #2. If would be one of those last second trades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 I like the premise of this poll, but I declined to vote because the options are too specific. I probably would have gone for option B, with D being a close second, except that I think there are other trade scenarios available to us that I would feel better about. I also wouldn't mind us staying put, but don't necessarily agree with the draft choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Interesting. Man a free agent qb just makes your team better in a lot of ways when you otherwise have to give up 2 first rounders. There is no way a trade up will involve us giving up our first four picks. Not even close to any trade chart I have seen, unless we wanted first overall which we don't. Also, people that know the team know how well Groy played at center (except for his first game) And how much need we have at DT and LB. No way do we take a center, I don't care how good he is. Too many holes much bigger. Beane is going to leverage his relationship with Gettleman and do a two step trade up to nail our qb. But we'll still have our 2nd round picks when the dust settles, and a shiny new qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 5 hours ago, Bakin said: I was picking BPA When you get a rookie QB, go BPA on offense or he will struggle. We have too many holes on offense to go BPA IMO. Give the guy the best chance to succeed. 3 hours ago, DallasMac said: I think it's bc there just isn't much wr talent in this draft. Some better free agent options. Like maybe Paul Richardson. Loaded at rb though. If we get a QB, it'd be a mistake to not load up on offense. Set the young man up to succeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimp on da' net Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 15 hours ago, Bakin said: A) SIGN COUSINS & STAY PUT Round 1 Pick 21: Maurice Hurst, DT, Michigan Round 1 Pick 22: Tremaine Edmunds, OLB, Virginia Tech Round 2 Pick 21: Ronald Jones II, RB, Southern California Round 2 Pick 24: Harrison Phillips, DT, Stanford B) TRADE UP TO #3 Give up Round 1 Pick 21 (21) (BUF), Round 1 Pick 22 (22) (BUF), Round 2 Pick 21 (53) (BUF), Round 2 Pick 24 (56) (BUF), 2019 Round 1 Pick (BUF) Draft either Darnold\Rosen\Mayfield (whoever tickles your fancy) C) TRADE BACK from 22 & DRAFT A QB Round 1 Pick 21: Vita Vea, DT, Washington Round 1 Pick 30 (MINN): Lamar Jackson, QB, Louisville Round 2 Pick 21: Kolton Miller, OT, UCLA Round 2 Pick 24: Sony Michel, RB, Georgia Round 2 Pick 30 (MINN): Leighton Vander Esch, ILB, Boise State D) STAY PUT AND DRAFT BQBA Round 1 Pick 21: Mason Rudolph, QB, Oklahoma State Round 1 Pick 22: Billy Price, C/OG, Ohio State Round 2 Pick 21: DaShawn Hand, DE, Alabama Round 2 Pick 24: Dorance Armstrong Jr., DE/OLB, Kansas *obviously there is more to consider here like FA but it’s assumed here that Tyrod is gone. Of the choices posed, Choice A - would be one helluva off season, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksilver Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 (edited) I picked B. 2 caveats though .1 ) not For Allen (that completion % is scary). 2) Please don't give all that up, possibly keep a 1st or 2nd. seems like too much. Choice A is very close depending what Cousins will need to sign moneywise. Edited February 19, 2018 by qwksilver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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