CLTbills Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 OK, so I'm not going to make a Dunkirk Don style prediction here because I don't have his "inside sources".... But I live in Charlotte. Just had a client who lives in Dorsey's neighborhood (same neighborhood Coach McD lived in when he was here) and is fairly close with the Dorsey's. She saw my Bills cup on my desk this morning and said it sounds like they're coming to Buffalo. Wife isn't happy about the cold, haha. It'll be interesting to see. Can't say I'll be surprised, nor will anybody. What are your thoughts? I know I've seen some posts on here that some guys would like to have him if we're going to draft a young QB. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 1 minute ago, CLTbills said: OK, so I'm not going to make a Dunkirk Don style prediction here because I don't have his "inside sources".... But I live in Charlotte. Just had a client who lives in Dorsey's neighborhood (same neighborhood Coach McD lived in when he was here) and is fairly close with the Dorsey's. She saw my Bills cup on my desk this morning and said it sounds like they're coming to Buffalo. Wife isn't happy about the cold, haha. It'll be interesting to see. Can't say I'll be surprised, nor will anybody. What are your thoughts? I know I've seen some posts on here that some guys would like to have him if we're going to draft a young QB. he worked with Joe Webb when he worked for the IMG Academy....so looks like our QB of the future is already on the team!!!! Alrite, now we can use the draft capital to build around Joe Webb!! In all seriousness...I would be so-so on the hire. Was a good college QB, not an NFL QB , and has only worked with Cam Newton with limited success as an NFL Passer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 I'd be fine with his addition to the coaching staff. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 We live in NH and my wife wants to GTFO and move south because of the miserable weather, even though we both have a great thing going here. So I get where Mrs.Dorsey is coming from. That said, Ken's going to be too busy with work to even pay attention to her anyway. If it were me I'd rent her a Florida condo until spring. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Dorsey also backed up Alex Smith for the 49ers, so he would be familiar with his strengths and weaknesses if we made a move for Smith lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 I would love it, and feel it would be essential for Daboll to add a well regarded QB coach to the staff. Keep Culley and move into a different title or AHC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, CLTbills said: OK, so I'm not going to make a Dunkirk Don style prediction here because I don't have his "inside sources".... But I live in Charlotte. Just had a client who lives in Dorsey's neighborhood (same neighborhood Coach McD lived in when he was here) and is fairly close with the Dorsey's. She saw my Bills cup on my desk this morning and said it sounds like they're coming to Buffalo. Wife isn't happy about the cold, haha. It'll be interesting to see. Can't say I'll be surprised, nor will anybody. What are your thoughts? I know I've seen some posts on here that some guys would like to have him if we're going to draft a young QB. I like it a lot. The Bills QB coach right now was the KC WR coach. You absolutely should have a QB coach, coaching QBs. Edited January 24, 2018 by Kirby Jackson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Just now, YoloinOhio said: I would love it, and feel it would be essential for Daboll to add a well regarded QB coach to the staff. Keep Culley and move into a different title or AHC. Dorsey is a well regarded QB Coach? That is my problem with the potential hire....what has Dorsey done that makes him a good QB coach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Who is Ken Dorsey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Just now, PaattMaann said: Dorsey is a well regarded QB Coach? That is my problem with the potential hire....what has Dorsey done that makes him a good QB coach? Cam was the MVP of the league 2 years ago? Also, asked another way, what has Culley done as a QB coach? It certainly is an upgrade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Just now, Kirby Jackson said: Cam was the MVP of the league 2 years ago? Also, asked another way, what has Culley done as a QB coach? It certainly is an upgrade. Exactly what I was thinking. Maybe Culley will go back to coaching wrs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 I did see that he’s interviewing with Falcons for QB coach (along with Darrell Bevell) http://www.myajc.com/sports/football/falcons-interview-ken-dorsey-for-vacant-coach-spot/3vyXUQqoGAkna49UhbTJRM/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBills Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 I think they will let Culley move on somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Cam was the MVP of the league 2 years ago? Also, asked another way, what has Culley done as a QB coach? It certainly is an upgrade. oh yea I am all for an upgrade at QB coach (although it can be argued Culley learned a lot about coaching QBs from the QB whisperer Andy Reid), I am just not all for "upgrading" for the sake of changing. I would prefer a more seasoned QB coach who has a history with different QBs, instead of Ken Dorsey who has only ever coached Cam Newton with mixed results. I wouldnt hate the hire, but it wouldn't wow me Edited January 24, 2018 by PaattMaann 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 9 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: We live in NH and my wife wants to GTFO and move south because of the miserable weather, even though we both have a great thing going here. So I get where Mrs.Dorsey is coming from. That said, Ken's going to be too busy with work to even pay attention to her anyway. If it were me I'd rent her a Florida condo until spring. You'll just be trading miserable in the winter for miserable in the summer. I have a lot of relatives in South Carolina. They literally are held prisoner by Air Conditioning from 10AM to 6PM from May through September...not my kind of life... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted January 24, 2018 Author Share Posted January 24, 2018 Just now, matter2003 said: You'll just be trading miserable in the winter for miserable in the summer. I have a lot of relatives in South Carolina. They literally are held prisoner by Air Conditioning from 10AM to 6PM from May through September...not my kind of life... Yeah. It's pretty freaking brutal from Mid-June through the end of August. I went to the Bills game here in week two. Good god it was awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, PaattMaann said: Dorsey is a well regarded QB Coach? That is my problem with the potential hire....what has Dorsey done that makes him a good QB coach? I think he is generally regarded as a guy that really understands the position. He played it at a high level in college and played a few years in the NFL with pretty much zero athletic ability or talent. He had a noodle arm, so he got everything he could by being smart and good technique. That's the kind of guy I want as my quarterback coach. He is very strong with the cerebral side of the game. He also has a background in pro scouting. He is generally credited with doing a lot for Cam Newton in terms of technique etc. I also like the idea of some young blood on the staff. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Devils advocate: What has he done? Newton, Ponder and Webb. I’m a big Cam fan but he has been infuriating at times with piss poor mechanics. Not sure what Dorsey actually Brings to the table? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, MrEpsYtown said: I think he is generally regarded as a guy that really understands the position. He played it at a high level in college and played a few years in the NFL with pretty much zero athletic ability or talent. He had a noodle arm, so he got everything he could by being smart and good technique. That's the kind of guy I want as my quarterback coach. He is very strong with the cerebral side of the game. He also has a background in pro scouting. He is generally credited with doing a lot for Cam Newton in terms of technique etc. I also like the idea of some young blood on the staff. hmmmm...if he was doing so great with Cam I wonder why they fired him (not being an a$$, truly wondering)...I didn't know he was well regarding or credited for Cam's "development" so I guess I will have to take your word for it Edited January 24, 2018 by PaattMaann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, BrooklynBills said: I think they will let Culley move on somewhere else. Wasn't there some rumor he would follow Matt Nagy to Chicago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 I'd be fine with it. I didn't realize until yesterday that Culley hasn't been a QB coach in over 30 years, and never at the NFL level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, CLTbills said: Yeah. It's pretty freaking brutal from Mid-June through the end of August. I went to the Bills game here in week two. Good god it was awful. different strokes for different folks, I flew down for the game week 2 and LOVED the heat... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, PaattMaann said: hmmmm...if he was doing so great with Cam I wonder why they fired him (not being an a$$, truly wondering)...I didn't know he was well regarding or credited for Cam's "development" It's a strange firing, but I guess we have to wait and see what Carolina does with their offensive staff to understand what they were thinking. Edit: Nevermind...they hired Norv Turner. Norv wanted his son Scott to be the quarterback coach as a part of the deal and Rivera agreed to the terms. So that is why Dorsey was let go. Edited January 24, 2018 by MrEpsYtown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBills Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Dorsey is also familiar with the E-P scheme as Mike Shula is an E-P disciple. I think you will see a little turnover with our predominant WCO coaches: Culley, McGeoghan, Castillo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted January 24, 2018 Author Share Posted January 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, PaattMaann said: different strokes for different folks, I flew down for the game week 2 and LOVED the heat... Yeah, pretty much. Although I remember loving it when I first moved here. 7 years later...... efffffffff it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 I would have thought Dorsey was more of a possibility had Chudzinski been brought on as OC because they coached together. He strikes me as the kind of guy who had the head to play in the NFL, but not the athleticism, which is why coaching might be more his thing. Might be better to have a younger guy for our rookie QB. Either way, as has been pointed out, has to automatically be a step up from Culley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 16 minutes ago, PaattMaann said: Dorsey is a well regarded QB Coach? That is my problem with the potential hire....what has Dorsey done that makes him a good QB coach? Trust me. He's a damn good football coach and really put the finishing touches Shula could not on Newton. I would love to have Shula as QB coach and Dorsey as assistant but that's because I am greedy. Either way, I'll ask some Panthers dudes. But this was mentioned earlier in the week on the Panthers board. 7 minutes ago, PaattMaann said: hmmmm...if he was doing so great with Cam I wonder why they fired him (not being an a$$, truly wondering)...I didn't know he was well regarding or credited for Cam's "development" so I guess I will have to take your word for it I know I'm not a pro. But I love Dorsey. And have for 4 years. He is the reason Newton really developed in to a QB before the last year and a half when he regressed to full retard that he is. Newton is uncoachable. Dorsey did a lot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 31 minutes ago, CLTbills said: OK, so I'm not going to make a Dunkirk Don style prediction here because I don't have his "inside sources".... But I live in Charlotte. Just had a client who lives in Dorsey's neighborhood (same neighborhood Coach McD lived in when he was here) and is fairly close with the Dorsey's. She saw my Bills cup on my desk this morning and said it sounds like they're coming to Buffalo. Wife isn't happy about the cold, haha. It'll be interesting to see. Can't say I'll be surprised, nor will anybody. What are your thoughts? I know I've seen some posts on here that some guys would like to have him if we're going to draft a young QB. I 'm glad you don't have his inside sources since they were voices inside his head ;-) Speaking of the guy, why haven't we seen any predictions from his as of late. Maybe more insight on our new stadium. Or what QB or coach we are going after. Connect the dots baby. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBills Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: Wasn't there some rumor he would follow Matt Nagy to Chicago? The rumor was that the Chiefs were not going to retain Culley when they made the change to Nagy(and in fact a few long time Reid guys were not retained last year). I doubt that he is going to go with him to the Bears with Herzlich now the OC. Just doesn't seem like a fit. I could see both Castillo and Culley winding up on Pat Shurmur's staff in NY. They both have obvious ties to him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 23 minutes ago, Steptide said: Who is Ken Dorsey? not sure if serious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ennjay Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 10 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: Trust me. He's a damn good football coach and really put the finishing touches Shula could not on Newton. Either way, I'll ask some Panthers dudes. But this was mentioned earlier in the week on the Panthers board. I know I'm not a pro. But I love Dorsey. And have for 4 years. He is the reason Newton really developed in to a QB before the last year and a half when he regressed to full retard that he is. Newton is uncoachable. Dorsey did a lot. FWIW Cam was an historically unfinished product coming out of Auburn -- didn't read D's, made few audibles, did not have any kind of sophistication whatsoever about how O works. He was all raw talent, and remember he only played/started at the D1 level for one year. I don't know what Dorsey did with him but whatever else you can say about Cam he's come a LONG way as a pro. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 32 minutes ago, Steptide said: Who is Ken Dorsey? Keyser soze 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 7 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said: Keyser soze #metoo. Too soon? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 52 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: I think he is generally regarded as a guy that really understands the position. He played it at a high level in college and played a few years in the NFL with pretty much zero athletic ability or talent. He had a noodle arm, so he got everything he could by being smart and good technique. That's the kind of guy I want as my quarterback coach. He is very strong with the cerebral side of the game. He also has a background in pro scouting. He is generally credited with doing a lot for Cam Newton in terms of technique etc. I also like the idea of some young blood on the staff. This is an absolute spot-on comment. Dorsey would be a nice "get" for the staff and may also help in evaluating the QBs in the draft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Wouldn’t love or hate the hire. Pretty meh about it tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Yes!!! Yes!!! One step closer to the turnover chain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 I'm down for this and moving Culley back to WR coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: I did see that he’s interviewing with Falcons for QB coach (along with Darrell Bevell) http://www.myajc.com/sports/football/falcons-interview-ken-dorsey-for-vacant-coach-spot/3vyXUQqoGAkna49UhbTJRM/ Wow Bevell is interviewing for QB coach? I remember when he was taking HC interviews. How the mighty have fallen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Canadian Bills Fan said: Wow Bevell is interviewing for QB coach? I remember when he was taking HC interviews. How the mighty have fallen He might still become an OC with ARZ or MIN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Buffalo Boy said: Devils advocate: What has he done? Newton, Ponder and Webb. I’m a big Cam fan but he has been infuriating at times with piss poor mechanics. Not sure what Dorsey actually Brings to the table? besides Newton, not a ton to work with there. And Newton had an MVP season. 50 minutes ago, Ennjay said: FWIW Cam was an historically unfinished product coming out of Auburn -- didn't read D's, made few audibles, did not have any kind of sophistication whatsoever about how O works. He was all raw talent, and remember he only played/started at the D1 level for one year. I don't know what Dorsey did with him but whatever else you can say about Cam he's come a LONG way as a pro. fantastic point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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