GunnerBill Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 2 hours ago, SaviorPeterman said: Matt STUD-lano should have been starting all season. Yet another questionable personnel and evaluation move by this regime: Not that I am bragging..... !@#$ it okay I AM bragging.... but I had a mid 1st round grade on Zach Cunningham as well when most had him as a 2nd round player. I didn't evaluate Milano but I remember watching the Clemson v Boston College tape as part of my Watson evaluation and this Milano kid was just always around the ball making plays. I googled him after and the consensus seemed to be "6th round to UDFA, quick but too small." But I was happy when we picked him. He has a nose for the football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said: You think McD showed up knowing all about every prospect and who he wanted to draft, and disregarded Whaley and Whaley's team's information? Do you have any idea how much work goes into scouting each year? One man can not do that on his own. Especially when his primary job is DC of a pro football team. "Whaley's team" was so vital that they were all quickly fired. Not long after, many of "Whaley's team's" pick were gone form the roster as well. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 7 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: I really do not care to be contrarian. But the issue might better be stated. what were the Bills thinking starting those OLBs and thinking we would be good for the season ? Certainly happy for the Rookie. And he does shine at times for sure ! But Bills went into this season weak at LB imo. And I am a fan of Preston Brown ( mostly) Go Milano Can't fill every hole in one offseason. They brought in Gerald Hodges who had 80 tackles last year with 3 sacks and 2 INTs. He did a face plant this year and didn't even make the team. The guy has a total of 3 tackles in 10 games for the Saints. Milano has been an upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: Not that I am bragging..... !@#$ it okay I AM bragging.... but I had a mid 1st round grade on Zach Cunningham as well when most had him as a 2nd round player. I didn't evaluate Milano but I remember watching the Clemson v Boston College tape as part of my Watson evaluation and this Milano kid was just always around the ball making plays. I googled him after and the consensus seemed to be "6th round to UDFA, quick but too small." But I was happy when we picked him. He has a nose for the football. I don't see Foster going far with that quirky throwing motion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said: "Whaley's team" was so vital that they were all quickly fired. Not long after, many of "Whaley's team's" pick were gone form the roster as well. As usual, your comment does nothing to refute or add to the comment you quoted. Carry on, WEO. Good to see some things never change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 1 minute ago, Buffalo30 said: Can't fill every hole in one offseason. They brought in Gerald Hodges who had 80 tackles last year with 3 sacks and 2 INTs. He did a face plant this year and didn't even make the team. The guy has a total of 3 tackles in 10 games for the Saints. Milano has been an upgrade. Zach Brown ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said: I don't see Foster going far with that quirky throwing motion. Not a complete linebacker then.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 2 hours ago, SaviorPeterman said: Matt STUD-lano should have been starting all season. Yet another questionable personnel and evaluation move by this regime: Reaching big time. Milano looked lost early in the season, and clearly progressed to where he is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Just now, GunnerBill said: Not a complete linebacker then.... perhaps get him in and see how he does on Teams. maybe he will develop. kick the tires and all that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 2 hours ago, SaviorPeterman said: Matt STUD-lano should have been starting all season. Yet another questionable personnel and evaluation move by this regime: Yes, drafting Milano was yet another questionable personnel and evaluation move by his regime. Too bad we missed on him and he’s playing for the Titans. Oh wait, this bumbling regime drafted a starting LB in the 5th round. You are so ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Just now, MJS said: Reaching big time. Milano looked lost early in the season, and clearly progressed to where he is now. closes very well. nose for ball. lets see how he holds up and how is used, assuming he will be BIlls next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 3 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: Zach Brown ? Did he want to resign here?? He sent out a thank you/goodbye note to the city of Buffalo on his twitter account even before McDermott was signed on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Just now, Buffalo30 said: Did he want to resign here?? He sent out a thank you/goodbye note to the city of Buffalo on his twitter account even before McDermott was signed on. No he did not. Who would after Rex? and i read he wanted to get paid. Just the same, Gerald Hodges ? That! is what they bet upon for a coverage LB ? Matt looks the part and I agree this fits MCBeanes staffing plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: No he did not. Who would after Rex? and i read he wanted to get paid. Just the same, Gerald Hodges ? That! is what they bet upon for a coverage LB ? Matt looks the part and I agree this fits MCBeanes staffing plan. Obviously Hodges would've just been a bridge player, there wasn't a lot of options besides Brown in last year's linebacker pool. We drafted two guys and one became a starter. We picked up bridge players in free agency because that's all that was left. Like I said, can't fix all the holes in one year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Milano is going to be a leader on this defence for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 15 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: closes very well. nose for ball. lets see how he holds up and how is used, assuming he will be BIlls next season I meant reaching in that the OP said the coaches were wrong for not starting him the whole year. Milano is awesome, but it took him some time to get there. The coaches were not wrong to work him in slowly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 I’m concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 3 hours ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Whaley's drafts were never as good as this last one. Maybe he had some influence, but I think this was a joint operation. Yes they were. Just because incompetent Bills management got rid of good players does not mean Whaley's drafts were poor. Jeez. 49 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: "Whaley's team" was so vital that they were all quickly fired. Not long after, many of "Whaley's team's" pick were gone form the roster as well. What's your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, yungmack said: Yes they were. Just because incompetent Bills management got rid of good players does not mean Whaley's drafts were poor. Jeez. He was great in the first couple rounds. His later picks weren't great. C. Richardson Randell Johnson Dez Lewis S. Henderson Karlos Williams (admittedly good until he ballooned) Kolby Listenbee Cardale Jones Also, I would say Kujo was far overdrafted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 40 minutes ago, MJS said: Reaching big time. Milano looked lost early in the season, and clearly progressed to where he is now. Humber played better than expected. I'll give him that. Literally from the second Milano got on the field he was making plays. He should have never gone back to the bench. https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-refocused-cincinnati-bengals-20-buffalo-bills-16 https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-refocused-buffalo-bills-30-tampa-bay-buccaneers-27 https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-refocused-buffalo-bills-34-oakland-raiders-14 The Buffalo Bills improved their home record to 4-0 on the season with their 34-14 win over the Oakland Raiders on Sunday. Overcoming several injuries on the defensive side of the ball, the Bills forced four Oakland turnovers, including a Matt Milano scoop-and-score before the end of the first half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 3 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: As usual, your comment does nothing to refute or add to the comment you quoted. Carry on, WEO. Good to see some things never change. Take a step closer to your computer screen. Or just able for help.. 2 hours ago, yungmack said: Yes they were. Just because incompetent Bills management got rid of good players does not mean Whaley's drafts were poor. Jeez. What's your point? Then new FO didn't value Whaley's teams input. Obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 He needs to hold his position much better and stop getting sucked inside.Also...he needs to hit the weights over the off season..his upper body lacks..rt's took him to the shed when he got time on the field..solid against the pass though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 3 hours ago, 3rdand12 said: closes very well. nose for ball. lets see how he holds up and how is used, assuming he will be BIlls next season Why wouldn’t he (I’m assuming that last part was supposed to say “be with the Bills next season”)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liverpoolkev Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 9 hours ago, John from Hemet said: Putting Zay Jones aside (who I still believe is gonna get it turned around) this was an EXTREMELY successful draft.....if Bean can work this magic next year we are cooking with fire Since Darius was traded for a late 6th rd we are dead last against the run and you trying to pep up little Milano in what world are you living in ..........Dashawn Watson would have set us up for the next ten years , Bean barely know how to do his job while the Chargers who was expected to win 5 games this year but struck gold with their HC hire A.Lynn we sit here and act like everything is honkey dory.......this coach is weak who can handle strong NFL talented personalities who bring in buddies TOLBERT, DUCASSE instead of FB players get a grip..... that extremely successful crap is so BILLSY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 9 hours ago, John from Hemet said: Putting Zay Jones aside (who I still believe is gonna get it turned around) this was an EXTREMELY successful draft.....if Bean can work this magic next year we are cooking with fire Even if Zay is a bust (which I think is up in the air) as long as White, Dawkins, and Milano play up to their potential and stay relatively healthy this past draft is a huge success. Even factoring out the fact that they got a extra 1st round pick simply finding 3 good starters at key positions is a sweeping success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 8 hours ago, liverpoolkev said: Since Darius was traded for a late 6th rd we are dead last against the run and you trying to pep up little Milano in what world are you living in ..........Dashawn Watson would have set us up for the next ten years , Bean barely know how to do his job while the Chargers who was expected to win 5 games this year but struck gold with their HC hire A.Lynn we sit here and act like everything is honkey dory.......this coach is weak who can handle strong NFL talented personalities who bring in buddies TOLBERT, DUCASSE instead of FB players get a grip..... that extremely successful crap is so BILLSY Funny because the Bills were expected to win 4 or fewer games and will likely win 9 and still have a shot at the playoffs. This without a franchise QB like Rivers. And the book is still out on Watson, who had a lot of red flags. He had just 4 good game before tearing his ACL in practice, without contact, on a grass field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 15 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Not that I am bragging..... !@#$ it okay I AM bragging.... but I had a mid 1st round grade on Zach Cunningham as well when most had him as a 2nd round player. I didn't evaluate Milano but I remember watching the Clemson v Boston College tape as part of my Watson evaluation and this Milano kid was just always around the ball making plays. I googled him after and the consensus seemed to be "6th round to UDFA, quick but too small." But I was happy when we picked him. He has a nose for the football. Ill admit I was on the Foster bandwagon when we traded back but very happy with white these days (was lukewarm on the pick as it felt like spinning our wheels instead of getting a the centerpiece for a LB driven scheme) milano I think still ends up a 3 or 4 guy on the depth chart at best. Good contributor, role player, and fill in but not a guy you want to lean on heavily or be the top of your talent pool at the position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Milano, White, Gaines, Poyer, Hyde keep those guys together on Defense for the next 4 years and we might be somebody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 18 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Not so fast... According to these raonkings, Milano is 6th. https://www.thrillist.com/eat/nation/best-pepperidge-farm-cookies No way! Those are my favorite cookies! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Looks to be a solid player. I worry he will get the Kiko treatment when OCs get film on him and just attack him in the run game. but a very solid late round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 22 minutes ago, NoSaint said: milano I think still ends up a 3 or 4 guy on the depth chart at best. Good contributor, role player, and fill in but not a guy you want to lean on heavily or be the top of your talent pool at the position In just about half a season's play, he has shown a nose for the ball and seems instinctive. IMHO, it is too early to say he will be a career #3 or #4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 14 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said: In just about half a season's play, he has shown a nose for the ball and seems instinctive. IMHO, it is too early to say he will be a career #3 or #4. Agreed. Out of our 3 starting LBs (Milano, Brown, Alexander), Milano should be the LAST one replaced. Alexander is doing his best but playing out of place, Brown is dead to me. We'd have to bring in 3 or 4 high quality LBs before Milano got pushed down the depth chart. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said: Agreed. Out of our 3 starting LBs (Milano, Brown, Alexander), Milano should be the LAST one replaced. Alexander is doing his best but playing out of place, Brown is dead to me. We'd have to bring in 3 or 4 high quality LBs before Milano got pushed down the depth chart. I agree. Also Milano is still a rookie and can continue to improve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 To be fair Humber was playing great before injury. He earned his chance and prove that it's still his job after injury. He failed to produce and was replaced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 22 hours ago, H2o said: Agreed The question is though, who's draft board were we going off of. Whaley was still here then. Was this a Whaley or McD draft? Was McD consulting with Beane before he was even here? I know some of the Panthers fans were crying foul at the time. Whaley put the draft board together, McD called the shots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 20 hours ago, wppete said: Milano is going to be a leader on this defence for a long time. I hope so man. He's got a bit of Rudy in him. I like this kids drive alot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 20 hours ago, Buffalo30 said: Obviously Hodges would've just been a bridge player, there wasn't a lot of options besides Brown in last year's linebacker pool. We drafted two guys and one became a starter. We picked up bridge players in free agency because that's all that was left. Like I said, can't fix all the holes in one year. agreed for sure but I hope they have targets who can help the team right away. 20 hours ago, MJS said: I meant reaching in that the OP said the coaches were wrong for not starting him the whole year. Milano is awesome, but it took him some time to get there. The coaches were not wrong to work him in slowly. agreed. The acclimation to the NFL is no small feat. we see it all the time. Looks like they Coached this Kid up correctly imo 20 hours ago, Maine-iac said: Humber played better than expected. I'll give him that. Literally from the second Milano got on the field he was making plays. He should have never gone back to the bench. https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-refocused-cincinnati-bengals-20-buffalo-bills-16 https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-refocused-buffalo-bills-30-tampa-bay-buccaneers-27 https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-refocused-buffalo-bills-34-oakland-raiders-14 The Buffalo Bills improved their home record to 4-0 on the season with their 34-14 win over the Oakland Raiders on Sunday. Overcoming several injuries on the defensive side of the ball, the Bills forced four Oakland turnovers, including a Matt Milano scoop-and-score before the end of the first half. Humber started well and fell off mostly. I found him to be a weak link. and Teams knew it. Very good on Teams though. 17 hours ago, Doc said: Why wouldn’t he (I’m assuming that last part was supposed to say “be with the Bills next season”)? My comment was to suggest " who knows" what Beane will do. If he can find a better Coverage backer ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 2 hours ago, Kmart128 said: To be fair Humber was playing great before injury. He earned his chance and prove that it's still his job after injury. He failed to produce and was replaced Agree. I do not think he recovered from the injury completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 2 hours ago, 3rdand12 said: agreed for sure but I hope they have targets who can help the team right away. I like Christian Jones who will be a free agent outside linebacker from Chicago. He's got speed and length. 26 years old and is looking for the right scheme, I think McDermott could make him blossom. I also think they'll be looking to add their MLB in the draft. Could see two new starting linebackers next to Milano next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 On 12/29/2017 at 3:29 PM, SaviorPeterman said: Matt STUD-lano should have been starting all season. Yet another questionable personnel and evaluation move by this regime: Maybe he wasn't ready at the beginning of the year. You better get ready to some apologizing when we are perennial contenders under McDermott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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