FearLess Price Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 1 minute ago, joesixpack said: Considering he's on a gurney somewhere, probably similar to what it is "rite" now. Lol idk man theres too many variables to think he definitely wouldve torn his acl here. He wouldve had a lighter load with shady here. Then again Dennison is trash so maybe we would be under 500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, John from Hemet said: No need for the name calling sir. The QB situation is a very good example of the "wheels coming off" You cannot have the production that TT had in some of those games and hope to win...that WAS a McD call and regardless of the 5 interception game I still think it may have been the right one......McD was looking for a spark. I LOVE that he gambles instead of goes with the status quo because of what people might think. He doesnt call the defensive game...the Tolbert thing I think is a example of something (imo) that he delegated down....for some reason Frasier likes Tolbert (i dont know why) for some reason Frasier likes Decauuse (dont ask me why) Dennison should be fired IMMEDIATELY after the season provided a better OC comes available because i dont want him touching whatever QB we actually draft. what I am saying is.....I think McD is handling it correctly...he delegates down to experienced coordinators under him and manages everything....that is what a HC is SUPPOSED to do. ...dead on John......the yipsters will yip regardless.......Hoyer got benched for Bethard....Glennon for Mitchell.....Savage for Watson....would get carpal tunnel listing the 38 benchings/starts, re-benching/re-starts in Cleveland......it happens in this game.....TT was good....TT was bad......hence no consistency and the same goes for Dennison's mumblin', fumblin' stumblin' play calling....despite McD being around the league, he's a rook managing EVERYTHING as you state, meaning mistakes will happen.....hell are well seasoned HC's in this league mistake free?...um right.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, FearLess Price said: Relax hemet. I can agree with a lot of what you said. I dont think LAC was the best place to make the move vs a ferocious pass rush. I can excuse that as mcderm is still learning to be a hc. Also if you look at my 1st comment you responded to, i never blamed the lb and rb2 personell calls on mcderm anyway. Regardless who made them they are questionable. We will see if derm has the cojones to fire dennison on black monday Right. Can you imagine if we took deshaun watson like whaley wanted to? I wonder what our record would be rite now. I'm guessing 9-4 and our QB search would finally be over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: No one here is happier for you than I am for your recent discovery of memes and I couldn't be happier for you. Really, I couldn't be happier for you if I tried and I did try. I guess what I'm trying to say is pace yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Just now, frostbitmic said: I'm guessing 9-4 and our QB search would finally be over. That's a guess, all right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaviorPeterman Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Milano is a true throwback player, bloodied gauze in the nose and all. He was running all over the field in blizzard like conditions with no under layer beneath his jersey. Hopefully he has a bright future with the Bills and isn't playing for the Patriots in 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearLess Price Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 1 minute ago, frostbitmic said: I'm guessing 9-4 and our QB search would finally be over. Just now, joesixpack said: That's a guess, all right. Thats honestly the best case scenario. Not sure i want us to keep dennison tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 10 minutes ago, joesixpack said: you really ARE simple if you don't understand that McDermott ran that draft. Carry on, hater. McDermott, a rookie HC, built a draft board and executed the draft in a mere 3 months? I could've sworn that job normally took a team of a dozen men all year to prepare? But McD, the rookie HC with no history of scouting or GM responsibilities did this by himself? That's very impressive. Do you have any proof of this? It seems highly unlikely to me, but I see how its convenient for some of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 41 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: Maybe because Beane wasn't a part of the organization until after the draft. McDermott was hired in January. This draft was run by Doug Whaley and the draft board prepped by his team. You think Pegula left Whaley in charge while planning to fire him? And that Whaley just happened to pick players that had visited Carolina including 2 trade ups for players that were expected to be drafted by Carolina? Let's be realistic, McDermott was calling the shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, joesixpack said: That's a guess, all right. And I'm sure that your opinion is so much better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, HappyDays said: You think Pegula left Whaley in charge while planning to fire him? And that Whaley just happened to pick players that had visited Carolina including 2 trade ups for players that were expected to be drafted by Carolina? Let's be realistic, McDermott was calling the shots. Bingo. Boomshakalaka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 (edited) Whaley and the scouts underneath him did the vast majority of the scouting and they set the board based on McD's needs and wants for a football team. Whaley set the table, McD pulled the trigger. Anyone who believes that Whaley was the main decision maker simply isn't thinking this out too well. Edited December 11, 2017 by Magox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, Magox said: Whaley and the scouts underneath him did the vast majority of the scouting and they set the board based on McD's needs and wants for a football team. Whaley set the table, McD pulled the trigger. Anyone who believes that Whaley was the main decision maker simply isn't thinking this out too well. Anyone who believes that McD was the architect of this draft down to 5th and 6th round picks isn't reviewing all the facts. The Pegula's trust a rookie HC with no personnel experience to run the whole draft? If that's the case, then how did McD even do it? We can safely rule out the possibility that he did 9 months of scouting and put together his own board in 3 months. Did he just steal the Panthers whole draft board? How much access does a defensive coordinator have to the draft process? Was Beane complicit in leaking it weeks before he accepted the job as Bills GM? Dave Gettleman was still the GM in Carolina, so if Beane did do something as unethical as leak the Panthers board to his future employer how much of that board is even his? Lots of questions here. I don't doubt that McD had influence on this draft particularly the Dawkins pick but I'm not going to give the guy a ton of credit for executing Carolina's draft strategy. I would prefer to wait and see Beane and McDermott actually put together their OWN draft before touting their scouting ability. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Good, he should have always been the starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Now give Humber some reps at MLB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Jauronimo said: No one here is happier for you than I am for your recent discovery of memes and I couldn't be happier for you. Really, I couldn't be happier for you if I tried and I did try. I guess what I'm trying to say is pace yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: Anyone who believes that McD was the architect of this draft down to 5th and 6th round picks isn't reviewing all the facts. The Pegula's trust a rookie HC with no personnel experience to run the whole draft? If that's the case, then how did McD even do it? We can safely rule out the possibility that he did 9 months of scouting and put together his own board in 3 months. Did he just steal the Panthers whole draft board? How much access does a defensive coordinator have to the draft process? Was Beane complicit in leaking it weeks before he accepted the job as Bills GM? Dave Gettleman was still the GM in Carolina, so if Beane did do something as unethical as leak the Panthers board to his future employer how much of that board is even his? Lots of questions here. I don't doubt that McD had influence on this draft particularly the Dawkins pick but I'm not going to give the guy a ton of credit for executing Carolina's draft strategy. I would prefer to wait and see Beane and McDermott actually put together their OWN draft before touting their scouting ability. He wasn't the architect, I didn't even come close to suggesting he was. But he was the main decision maker. Edited December 12, 2017 by Magox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Milano should be a fixture for years.....a great later round pick. Now what we need are. - A quality DT in free agency that can both stop the run and push the pocket. In the draft we need - An edge that can get pressure like Jerry Hughes does - A MLB that can actually get sideline to sideline and make plays Hitting on these late draft picks like Milano helps this team so much.....I remember when he was drafted a lot of use were like WTF because we thought he was too small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 3 hours ago, HappyDays said: When's the last time we had a late round pick who was even low end starter material? This past draft is shaping up to be great, one of the best in a long long time. Those are guys that tend to be very scheme specific and we swap schemes every three weeks the last decade. Makes sense few contribute here but some have elsewhere. Seymour is contributing in Carolina, won’t be shocked if Jon Williams does, Karlos for a stretch, NRC is making plays in LA. Cockrell in Pittsburgh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 1 minute ago, NoSaint said: Those are guys that tend to be very scheme specific and we swap schemes every three weeks the last decade. Makes sense few contribute here but some have elsewhere. Seymour is contributing in Carolina, won’t be shocked if Jon Williams does, Karlos for a stretch, NRC is making plays in LA. Cockrell in Pittsburgh Cockrell moved on the the NYG this season, but your point is well taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Good move "Razor" Ramon Humber is really a special teams guy. Would not start on most teams. I give him credit for playing well in a few games this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabills21 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 this defense will look completely different next year, once McDermott has his type of linebackers to run this defense. I like Milano, and hope he continues to improve the rest of the way, but think it's 50/50 at best he starts next year. absolutely think he deserves to play over Humber, but still think they look at drafting 1 early linebacker, 1 in the mid rounds and a f/a acquisition. The Mike and Will backers are especially important if this defense wants to take it up to the next level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 1 hour ago, NewEra said: Now give Humber some reps at MLB. Too late in the season to have him make a position switch, especially to "QB" of the defense. Maybe next year, if they re-sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 I've been saying for a while now, the makeup of this team specially on defense is going to look a whole lot different than it does right now, specifically the front 7. I see at least 2 new DT's next year, 3 new LB's and a DE. At least 4 of them being starters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 5 hours ago, Jamie Muellers Ghost said: Well deserved. If he bulks up a little more and keeps studying the league he will keep getting better. Anyone see any upside in Vallejo ? I'm sure he will. He is stronger than hell, imagine if he puts on 10lbs. If he really works at it he could come in at 233-235 next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, HappyDays said: When's the last time we had a late round pick who was even low end starter material? This past draft is shaping up to be great, one of the best in a long long time. the competition they needed to overcome was questionable/ the draft is yet to be great and likely wont. Perhaps you are not used to a couple guys panning out for change ? is the Bills after all and lets see how these guys look next year. and folks are wrong about Brown. Humber had a few good games and then became slow and lost. an honest liability. he was always at best a special teamer and a rotational guy. at best. Glad Milano has earned his place. Ain't perfect but continues to improve !! 5 hours ago, matter2003 said: Milano reminds me so much of Zach Thomas but 20 lbs lighter and faster...he just has a nose for the ball and great instincts easy tiger 4 hours ago, simpleman said: Yes. Simple enough to know the difference from McBeane and McDermott. Simple is as Simple does. and i like your wit Edited December 12, 2017 by 3rdand12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 5 hours ago, HappyDays said: When's the last time we had a late round pick who was even low end starter material? This past draft is shaping up to be great, one of the best in a long long time. Yup. As of right now now every single player from that draft is contributing. 4 starters, 1 backup (QB) and 1 backup/special teams (Vallejo). We obviously need to see what they turn into in the long term, but as of now that draft looks promising (IMO). If they hit like that in 2018, they are in damn good shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: Yup. As of right now now every single player from that draft is contributing. 4 starters, 1 backup (QB) and 1 backup/special teams (Vallejo). We obviously need to see what they turn into in the long term, but as of now that draft looks promising (IMO). If they hit like that in 2018, they are in damn good shape. Like i said, look at the competition they are trying to overcome. that said i am quite pleased with some of these fellows. White is jersey worthy Edited December 12, 2017 by 3rdand12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 4 hours ago, Jauronimo said: No one here is happier for you than I am for your recent discovery of memes and I couldn't be happier for you. Really, I couldn't be happier for you if I tried and I did try. I guess what I'm trying to say is pace yourself. Isn’t that a gif? And not a meme? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Diamond in the rough for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 I've started threads on this guy...he's making me look smart haha. I hope he continues to progress and turn into the best fifth round pick we've had since Kyle Williams. It's nice to see a young late round pick like that taking advantage of their opportunity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 6 hours ago, RyanC883 said: Fantastic draft pick. Humber is good, but is more suited as a backup. Matt looks to have a better all-around LB skill set. Yep. Turning into a very good draft. We all know Tre is an excellent corner. Dawkins has been very solid on the O line. Zay is starting to show his talent, although it appears that he don't like the snow. Now add Milano as a starter at LB. We are one Nathan Peterman good start away from saying with a straight face that we won the offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 2 hours ago, Doc said: Too late in the season to have him make a position switch, especially to "QB" of the defense. Maybe next year, if they re-sign him. Hopefully not next year. We need a new Lb unit minus milano at WLB. He’d be good depth. I’m just tired of watching Preston Brown. Can’t wait til we have a new QB of the defend e Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 7 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: FINALLY!!!!! About time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 7 hours ago, joesixpack said: And this is why I'm baffled by the reaction of some around here toward McBeane. Well, a team that was supposed to win less than 6 games has a winning record and a playoff shot in December. It's no surprise the thinking fans are so upset with the GM and HC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadonkadonk Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Move Lorax to DE and play both Milano and Humber. Why is this so hard to figure out? Lorax has been terrible at OLB all year. He can be a force in a rotation at DE. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 7 hours ago, HappyDays said: When's the last time we had a late round pick who was even low end starter material? This past draft is shaping up to be great, one of the best in a long long time. Seantrel Henderson. Literally 3 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 11 hours ago, kirkwoodus13 said: #53 with the eagles would have look great in this defense. Bradham is a beast, never should have let that guy leave. everyone is talking QB of the offense, we equally need a QB of this defense just as bad. Preston is serviceable , but we really need an upgrade. Yeah, in watching the Jax /Sea and Philly/Rams game there were ex-Bills making plays all over. Bradham had a great game, as did Robey-Coleman. Pozlusny was all over the field for the Jags. Dareus was in on some tackles but he was taking on double teams for most of what I saw, so that helps his teammates. Sammy scored another TD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 13 hours ago, Clyde Smith said: Awesome!! Should've happened a few games ago. This. Now Reilly needs to play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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