The juice Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/10/29/talk-of-a-possible-t-y-hilton-trade-intensifies/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Wouldn't mind this at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 No cancers please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knicks&Bills Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 It will probably take at least a second to get it done, and if we do that it would almost be trading Sammy for TY, which is a bad trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 No. Trying to free up cap not tie our hands for this offseason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 It will probably take at least a second to get it done, and if we do that it would almost be trading Sammy for TY, which is a bad trade. No it would be Sammy for TY and Gaines. TY is under contract for three more years. TY is a proven WR. A second round pick next year is a lottery and does nothing to help this year. That said, I think a third and a 5th get it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baskingridgebillsfan Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 what would be the point , they wouldn't use him . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRW Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 It will probably take at least a second to get it done, and if we do that it would almost be trading Sammy for TY, which is a bad trade. People need to stop overrating Watkins based on potential. Look at actual performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 It will probably take at least a second to get it done, and if we do that it would almost be trading Sammy for TY, which is a bad trade. i would expect it could be done with a 3rd or a potential adolpheous washington + 5th/6h. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbomb Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 why, we barely throw to wrs. would take atleast a 2nd, and would probably get minimum production on a average weekly basis. why change whats working Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 It will probably take at least a second to get it done, and if we do that it would almost be trading Sammy for TY, which is a bad trade. Not even a close comparison as ty is signed for 3 more years and a much more consistent guy Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The juice Posted October 29, 2017 Author Share Posted October 29, 2017 i would expect it could be done with a 3rd or a potential adolpheous washington + 5th/6h. Id asssume Washington is not going anywhere with the trade of Dareus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Id asssume Washington is not going anywhere with the trade of Dareus i want to see a snap count for him today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 A big reason we don't throw much to WR is they aren't strong enough to scare the opposing defense. Put a guy like Hilton out there with Mathews and a combo of Jones, Holmes, and can't recall the guy who had 100 yards last weeks and defenses will need to start paying more attention. what would be the point , they wouldn't use him . why, we barely throw to wrs. would take atleast a 2nd, and would probably get minimum production on a average weekly basis. why change whats working Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Wideout is not an important position on this team to waste both draft picks and take on that big a salary. Do people not understand they are trying to clear cap space for small contract players because we are a system franchise now? Find players that fit the system. A high salary WR doesn't fit this system, sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA Grant Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Hard to see T.Y. as a fit for the McDermott style. I think Thompson is going to be the deep threat / speed guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 However, the Colts won’t want to simply give him away. Moreover, Hilton (we’re told) won’t be inclined to renegotiate a contract that pays him a salary of $8 million this year, $11 million next year, and $13 million in 2019 No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 No thanks. That, as much as the assets required to obtain him, is the deal killer. In my estimation, purely based on the deals made to date, this FO is working to obtain draft capital and cap flexibility in the coming years. Jettisoning Dareus is not the move made by a team attempting to take on the salary of a player like TY.Is he a good WR? Yes. Is he the difference between a Super Bowl and a playoff appearance, where the Bills are looking to be headed as of today? Extremely doubtful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonabb Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 what would be the point , they wouldn't use him . Exactly this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 People need to stop overrating Watkins based on potential. Look at actual performance. Exactly. TY Hilton’s performance has been far better than Watkins’. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 However, the Colts won’t want to simply give him away. Moreover, Hilton (we’re told) won’t be inclined to renegotiate a contract that pays him a salary of$8 million this year, $11 million next year, and $13 million in 2019 Now this is a player that is actually worth the money. He's one of the top 10 WR's in the league, he has the production to match that and he has great speed. I wonder if he fits the mold of player character wise that McD/Beane are looking for. If so, that salary would totally be worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webster Guy Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Not happening. If we make a move for anyone it should be RG or RT. Our receivers get open enough, and we've shown that even with Sammy we aren't a slinging type of team. When Clay comes back we will have a very good lineup of targets for the 2nd half run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Not for that salary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Not yet. Protect the cap space. Zay looked better today. Holmes and Matthews have been steady. Clay will be back soon. Use those 6 picks wisely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Get him now. Does anyone look at his stats and say no? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleTheWagons99 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) Trade both 6th round picks for him Edited October 30, 2017 by CircleTheWagons99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Really depends on draft pick compensation. He’s not worth a super high pick due to his salary, but he’s certainly worth looking into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 If they can keep winning without Clay, they're just going to wait until he's healthy again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 I'd be careful of who I brought in the locker room right now. There is a nice dynamic and team-building going on. You don't want to mess it up with a "me first" guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 . He’s not worth a super high pick due to his salary, but he’s certainly worth looking into. He's finished the last 4 seasons with ~ 1200 yards and 6 TDs. Do you think you can acquire the guy for a ham sandwich or something? They're not going to get rid of him for a low pick. The $11-13 million isn't even that bad. AJ Green, DT, Dez Bryant and Julio Jones are all in the $13-15 million annual range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 It will probably take at least a second to get it done, and if we do that it would almost be trading Sammy for TY, which is a bad trade. at the least, more likely a mid/late first. He is an elite WR under contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 No. Trying to free up cap not tie our hands for this offseason His contract doesnt tie hands going forward. If you can get Hilton for a 3rd or 4th it may make this team better. He can then just be a one year rental if needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Not happening. If we make a move for anyone it should be RG or RT. Our receivers get open enough, and we've shown that even with Sammy we aren't a slinging type of team. When Clay comes back we will have a very good lineup of targets for the 2nd half run very good?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 His contract doesnt tie hands going forward. If you can get Hilton for a 3rd or 4th it may make this team better. Cooks went for a late 1st rounder, and Hilton's a better receiver than him. It will take major currency to get it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 @spotrac Trading WR TY Hilton would leave the #Colts dead cap hits of $5.76M/$4M in 2017/2018; new team acquires caps of $4.2M/$11M/$13M/$14.5M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 @spotrac Trading WR TY Hilton would leave the #Colts dead cap hits of $5.76M/$4M in 2017/2018; new team acquires caps of $4.2M/$11M/$13M/$14.5M not worth it unless we know we can restructure. Too similar to what's going on with Watkins. He's not performing at an elite level like one would hope without an entire scheme designed around him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Cooks went for a late 1st rounder, and Hilton's a better receiver than him. It will take major currency to get it done. Spotrac predicted a 4th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 His contract doesnt tie hands going forward. If you can get Hilton for a 3rd or 4th it may make this team better. He can then just be a one year rental if needed Actually, over 10 mill for the next three years is doing just that with the cap we have. The offense is doing just fine now, the team has scored 30 points the last two games. Am I missing something? We don't need top flight wide outs with big salaries for the type of offense we run which has been productive and improving as the season goes on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfanAZ Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 I would be on board with TY. Hopefully a 4th would get it done. Great player even though his contract is a little pricey in 2018 and 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMannn Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 That size salary he has diminishes his trade value. I bet a 4th gets it done. I'd do it If we were 2-5, tear it down more the roster At 5-2, add a couple pieces because you don't know when you will be close again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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