McBean Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 My gosh people, we are 3-2 headed into the bye week. Outside of the KC Chiefs, the AFC is wide open. Steelers lost, Texans lost, Raiders lost... These next 2 games are very winnable. Do NOT bench TT, do NOT go trade for a WR, and for crying out loud trust the process. We are 5 games into a new era...FIVE! This is the best coached team I've seen in a very long time. We have 6 picks in the top 90. Beane is building a consistent winner here long term..take that to the bank. This is a playoff team. Book it. Don't panic. Enjoy the bye week. Rest up, get healthy, and we're on to Tampa. My Monday morning thoughts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) My 2 cents on Chill the heck out... I know there are 2 or 3 that always slam Taylor, but for goodness sake people have to realize that Taylor is not a passing QB and can't get it dome when passing is needed by now. 3-2 is nice but with 3 turnovers the defense did its job. I have little confidence week after week after week, Don't we deserve better? I trust the process..... its the guy under center I don't trust. My Monday morning thoughts... Edited October 9, 2017 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BringBackFergy Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 My gosh people, we are 3-2 headed into the bye week. Outside of the KC Chiefs, the AFC is wide open. Steelers lost, Texans lost, Raiders lost... These next 2 games are very winnable. Do NOT bench TT, do NOT go trade for a WR, and for crying out loud trust the process. We are 5 games into a new era...FIVE! This is the best coached team I've seen in a very long time. We have 6 picks in the top 90. Beane is building a consistent winner here long term..take that to the bank. This is a playoff team. Book it. Don't panic. Enjoy the bye week. Rest up, get healthy, and we're on to Tampa. My Monday morning thoughts... Well done. Have to see the big picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Fans are getting a better product... effort is top notch, the management is now very good. they are 3-2 while simultaneously rebuilding the roster -- the injury bug will still kill this thin, rebuilding roster and the season eventually IMO, but we will see what happens when the Conference/Division games crank up . The moves they have made for the future make total sense so far. Watkins/Woods aren't doing much, they are teed up to get a franchise QB in next years draft, and the defensive scheme makes sense for the first time since Schwartz. Trust the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 My gosh people, we are 3-2 headed into the bye week. Outside of the KC Chiefs, the AFC is wide open. Steelers lost, Texans lost, Raiders lost... These next 2 games are very winnable. Do NOT bench TT, do NOT go trade for a WR, and for crying out loud trust the process. We are 5 games into a new era...FIVE! This is the best coached team I've seen in a very long time. We have 6 picks in the top 90. Beane is building a consistent winner here long term..take that to the bank. This is a playoff team. Book it. Don't panic. Enjoy the bye week. Rest up, get healthy, and we're on to Tampa. My Monday morning thoughts... Do you coach a basketball team in that commercial that booked his tickets to the championship game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 My gosh people, we are 3-2 headed into the bye week. Outside of the KC Chiefs, the AFC is wide open. Steelers lost, Texans lost, Raiders lost... These next 2 games are very winnable. Do NOT bench TT, do NOT go trade for a WR, and for crying out loud trust the process. We are 5 games into a new era...FIVE! This is the best coached team I've seen in a very long time. We have 6 picks in the top 90. Beane is building a consistent winner here long term..take that to the bank. This is a playoff team. Book it. Don't panic. Enjoy the bye week. Rest up, get healthy, and we're on to Tampa. My Monday morning thoughts... Defense is play-off caliber, the offense not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Just in the knick of time. The first of the annual " We're a playoff team and here's why." Genre of threads. ug....ugg...,.Uggg.......ARRGGG......😵😵😵 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 My gosh people, we are 3-2 headed into the bye week. Outside of the KC Chiefs, the AFC is wide open. Steelers lost, Texans lost, Raiders lost... These next 2 games are very winnable. Do NOT bench TT, do NOT go trade for a WR, and for crying out loud trust the process. We are 5 games into a new era...FIVE! This is the best coached team I've seen in a very long time. We have 6 picks in the top 90. Beane is building a consistent winner here long term..take that to the bank. This is a playoff team. Book it. Don't panic. Enjoy the bye week. Rest up, get healthy, and we're on to Tampa. My Monday morning thoughts... Exactly. We have been told year in and year out that this team is close and only a few changes are needed. This hasn't been the case. So year 1 the process is to rebuild the defense. Why? Because a good defense keeps you competitive...keeps you in games. So far we have lost 2 games. Both on the road. Both where we had the ball with a chance to win and couldn't get it done. Year 2 will obviously be committed to improving the offense. I strongly believe there will be a huge turnover on that side of the ball. Wouldn't shock me if we have 3 or 4 new starters on online. New WRs, new TE, and yes, a new RB in addition to a new QB. I like what they have done with the defense. No one thought our secondary would be any good...but it's become the core of a very strong defense and will keep getting better. I get the whole "it's been 17 years...." blah blah blah but let's build an actual contender and not a team that can make the playoffs once then start on the new streak of playoff misses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 If we had been told the team would be 3-2 at the bye week before the season began most everyone here would have taken that. They have fixed the defense after the Ryan debacle, and they have a lot of work to do on the offensive side of the ball. I see the following happening during the next two weeks: 1. Get healthy. Humber will be back. Gaines will be back. Glenn will be healthier. Maybe Mathews is back. Clay probably not. Getting healthier will help. 2. The coaches will do what I understand coaching staffs do during the bye week. They will evaluate film of the first 5 weeks as if they were game planning against us. And they'll identify weaknesses to work on. 3. Roster changes will likely be made. If Clay is out for an extended time, they'll put him on IR and add another TE. Maybe Barnidge. And they will shake up the WR spot, either by brining Reilly up or by brining in a veteran like a Stevie or two. 4. Miller will start again, and it would not surprise me to see them move Glenn over to RT and leave Dawkins at LT. They have to know at this point that Glenn is one of their best tackles; they won't just leave him on the bench. Unless... 5. Trades are a possibility. Possibly trade a Glenn for a WR. This coaching staff and front office won't panic. They'll make considered decisions and trust the process they've put in place. One game where they cam up short on offense, one game where a play or two turns a loss into a win does not call for wholesale changes and wringing of hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 If we had been told the team would be 3-2 at the bye week before the season began most everyone here would have taken that. They have fixed the defense after the Ryan debacle, and they have a lot of work to do on the offensive side of the ball. I see the following happening during the next two weeks: 1. Get healthy. Humber will be back. Gaines will be back. Glenn will be healthier. Maybe Mathews is back. Clay probably not. Getting healthier will help. 2. The coaches will do what I understand coaching staffs do during the bye week. They will evaluate film of the first 5 weeks as if they were game planning against us. And they'll identify weaknesses to work on. 3. Roster changes will likely be made. If Clay is out for an extended time, they'll put him on IR and add another TE. Maybe Barnidge. And they will shake up the WR spot, either by brining Reilly up or by brining in a veteran like a Stevie or two. 4. Miller will start again, and it would not surprise me to see them move Glenn over to RT and leave Dawkins at LT. They have to know at this point that Glenn is one of their best tackles; they won't just leave him on the bench. Unless... 5. Trades are a possibility. Possibly trade a Glenn for a WR. This coaching staff and front office won't panic. They'll make considered decisions and trust the process they've put in place. One game where they cam up short on offense, one game where a play or two turns a loss into a win does not call for wholesale changes and wringing of hands. @mikerodak The Bills’ targets per game (10.2) and catches per game (4.8) to WRs would both be the lowest in the NFL since at least 2001. They are on pace for 28 TD's passing and rushing combined. That's historically bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Our offense is 30th in yards and 25th in points per game. Its all good though. As long as the defense can hold teams to 13 points every week we should be alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Our offense is 30th in yards and 25th in points per game. Its all good though. As long as the defense can hold teams to 13 points every week we should be alright. Soon those lucky bounces are not going to be there for the defense though. AJ Green is not going to hand over three turnovers every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Our offense is 30th in yards and 25th in points per game. Its all good though. As long as the defense can hold teams to 13 points every week we should be alright. Maybe McDermott loves challenging the defense. "Hey guys, we can't give up more than 13 a game for us to win....let's see what we're made of!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 @mikerodak The Bills’ targets per game (10.2) and catches per game (4.8) to WRs would both be the lowest in the NFL since at least 2001. They are on pace for 28 TD's passing and rushing combined. That's historically bad. And?? They will review things and make changes, as I said. Correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 My gosh people, we are 3-2 headed into the bye week. Outside of the KC Chiefs, the AFC is wide open. Steelers lost, Texans lost, Raiders lost... These next 2 games are very winnable. Do NOT bench TT, do NOT go trade for a WR, and for crying out loud trust the process. We are 5 games into a new era...FIVE! This is the best coached team I've seen in a very long time. We have 6 picks in the top 90. Beane is building a consistent winner here long term..take that to the bank. This is a playoff team. Book it. Don't panic. Enjoy the bye week. Rest up, get healthy, and we're on to Tampa. My Monday morning thoughts... No run game No receivers No qb No threat at TE I enjoyed the 3-1 start as much as possible knowing it would not last. This team was surviving on fumes and now reality will come crashing down. It's nobody's fault, they just don't have enough talent. Playoff team? Uhh, nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 My 2 cents on Chill the heck out... I know there are 2 or 3 that always slam Taylor, but for goodness sake people have to realize that Taylor is not a passing QB and can't get it dome when passing is needed by now. 3-2 is nice but with 3 turnovers the defense did its job. I have little confidence week after week after week, Don't we deserve better? I trust the process..... its the guy under center I don't trust. My Monday morning thoughts... sure - who do you want to bring in? Cutler's certainly asserting himself over in Miami... Guy should be the starter til we're out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) half the NFL is 3-2 or better, the makeup game leaves the winner 3-2. So big whoop the Bills are 3-2. Edited October 9, 2017 by row_33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Fans are getting a better product... effort is top notch, the management is now very good. they are 3-2 while simultaneously rebuilding the roster -- the injury bug will still kill this thin, rebuilding roster and the season eventually IMO, but we will see what happens when the Conference/Division games crank up . The moves they have made for the future make total sense so far. Watkins/Woods aren't doing much, they are teed up to get a franchise QB in next years draft, and the defensive scheme makes sense for the first time since Schwartz. Trust the process. i think this is what people need to realize. this year certainly isn't the finished product...if anything, it's a stripped down version of it. will it be tough to be competitive and still miss the playoffs if that's the outcome, but this is going to take another year or two to put pieces in place and establish depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 And?? They will review things and make changes, as I said. Correct? Sure. i think this is what people need to realize. this year certainly isn't the finished product...if anything, it's a stripped down version of it. will it be tough to be competitive and still miss the playoffs if that's the outcome, but this is going to take another year or two to put pieces in place and establish depth. so 8-8 leaving the bills to have to trade all the picks they acquired to move up to draft a QB, just swell. They are middling, which is the absolute worst thing you can do as an organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 i think this is what people need to realize. this year certainly isn't the finished product...if anything, it's a stripped down version of it. will it be tough to be competitive and still miss the playoffs if that's the outcome, but this is going to take another year or two to put pieces in place and establish depth. Exactly. It's a great look into what the future holds with this team. They're building their identity. Next step is to get the right players in here to finish the product and continue with, "the process," of which I am a firm believer. Through the first quarter of the season, it's clear what's needed in the next couple years: O line, WRs and a QB. I love who/what this team is becoming. But right now, there's a bunch of placeholders who won't be here when the team is playoff-caliber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 My gosh people, we are 3-2 headed into the bye week. Outside of the KC Chiefs, the AFC is wide open. Steelers lost, Texans lost, Raiders lost... These next 2 games are very winnable. Do NOT bench TT, do NOT go trade for a WR, and for crying out loud trust the process. We are 5 games into a new era...FIVE! This is the best coached team I've seen in a very long time. We have 6 picks in the top 90. Beane is building a consistent winner here long term..take that to the bank. This is a playoff team. Book it. Don't panic. Enjoy the bye week. Rest up, get healthy, and we're on to Tampa. My Monday morning thoughts... Good post! My theory is that all NFL teams go through this 2-3x a year where they appear in crisis-even the really good teams. It usually starts with injuries, some bad luck and perhaps a couple coaching misjudgements. Dealing with it is what determines what happens next. I'm guessing this group of coaches has the ability, in the next few weeks, to get through this until the next time we are in crisis. Rex had no idea how to adapt. He was a frontunner and only successful when things were going his way. That is not the current NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRUSHx Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) My 2 cents on Chill the heck out... I know there are 2 or 3 that always slam Taylor, but for goodness sake people have to realize that Taylor is not a passing QB and can't get it dome when passing is needed by now. 3-2 is nice but with 3 turnovers the defense did its job. I have little confidence week after week after week, Don't we deserve better? I trust the process..... its the guy under center I don't trust. My Monday morning thoughts... He's not a throwing QB exactly why teams are forcing him to be one and why our running game is stalled with them gearing to stop it. So in my opinion what your saying is since he doesn't throw his play is more along the lines of a backup QB. Protect the ball, hand it off and run when you can. Isn't that the time good HCs make a QB change or should they continue to use a veteran QB that refuses to throw? Thad Lewis played more like a starting QB then what we have seen from Tyrod. Edited October 9, 2017 by xRUSHx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreigner Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 The record is good, the coaching has been good, but trust the process? We have been trusting it for 17 years. With free agency and injuries the NFL is a now league, not a next year or trust the process league. We may luck out next year, but the only guarantee is management and coaches get paid next year, so lets just enjoy the games, it is only entertainment, not life or death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Sure. so 8-8 leaving the bills to have to trade all the picks they acquired to move up to draft a QB, just swell. They are middling, which is the absolute worst thing you can do as an organization. You don't know that they will have to trade up. Neither do I so let's see where it goes. Maybe we have to trade...but at least we have the resources to do so. Maybe one of the QBs falls in our lap. Maybe we back up a Brinks truck and sign Cousins. Lots of possibilities. But I have faith that this team is going in a good direction. Think back to the off-season and fans bashing Buffalo for the way they rebuilt the secondary. Through 5 games they might be our best unit. Maybe...just maybe these guys know what they are doing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasovon Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 People are acting like we were superbowl favourites and are now 0-4. It was a bad loss but we simply don't have an offense this year, it was never going to go well we all knew that going in. We might still make the damn playoffs for crying out loud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Sure. so 8-8 leaving the bills to have to trade all the picks they acquired to move up to draft a QB, just swell. They are middling, which is the absolute worst thing you can do as an organization. while i understand the idea, the bills may not have to trade up to get a qb they want. Exactly. It's a great look into what the future holds with this team. They're building their identity. Next step is to get the right players in here to finish the product and continue with, "the process," of which I am a firm believer. Through the first quarter of the season, it's clear what's needed in the next couple years: O line, WRs and a QB. I love who/what this team is becoming. But right now, there's a bunch of placeholders who won't be here when the team is playoff-caliber. as of this point, i definitely like where the team is headed. they just don't have the personnel yet. You don't know that they will have to trade up. Neither do I so let's see where it goes. Maybe we have to trade...but at least we have the resources to do so. Maybe one of the QBs falls in our lap. Maybe we back up a Brinks truck and sign Cousins. Lots of possibilities. But I have faith that this team is going in a good direction. Think back to the off-season and fans bashing Buffalo for the way they rebuilt the secondary. Through 5 games they might be our best unit. Maybe...just maybe these guys know what they are doing... this is it. i'm not going to worry about the draft at this point. if the right management is actually in place, they'll make the picks work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Defense is play-off caliber, the offense not so much. Same as it ever was !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 14-2 Baby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Probably not a playoff team this year, but very close and certainly not as bad as many seem to think. They are a solid team that can win any given week, but they don't have the offensive firepower to actually win every week. That's about all there is to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epstein's Mother Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 i think this is what people need to realize. this year certainly isn't the finished product...if anything, it's a stripped down version of it. will it be tough to be competitive and still miss the playoffs if that's the outcome, but this is going to take another year or two to put pieces in place and establish depth. Agreed. It's going to take time for Beane to clean up after Whaley. It's not easy to put your team in salary cap jail while simultaneously not paying franchise quarterback money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRUSHx Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) Probably not a playoff team this year, but very close and certainly not as bad as many seem to think. They are a solid team that can win any given week, but they don't have the offensive firepower to actually win every week. That's about all there is to it. I think they are better on offense then what we have seen. Tyrod is playing like a backup and should be replaced if McD is true to replacing players not meeting expectations. No position is safe but here we are week's in watching backup QB play from our starter week after week. Edited October 9, 2017 by xRUSHx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Nothing changes around here......everyone gets too high after a win and too upset after a loss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Yay, another thread telling me why how I think is wrong. Nevermind that we can't score points, and have no wideouts. Nevermind that even the run game isn't working. Nevermind that we couldn't beat a 1-3 team with a +3 turnover margin. We got 3 wins, it's all gravy. Obviously McD is steering us in the right direction, but I don't need to calm down, this ship has some real choppy waters ahead before the smooth sailing. Playoffs with a team that can't score just isn't happening, not this year anyhow. I did not expect to be good coming into the season, but the pats losing got everyone's hopes up. If we hadn't lost Matthews, Clay, Gaines, etc I would agree, it's just a loss, but it's more than that. We need skill players to survive. If Shady goes down we have literally nothing, and he is now the entire focal point of opposing defenses so won't be as effective (in an already down year for him). If we don't materialize a WR or pass catching target of quantifiable difference, this season is a wash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) Don't chill the heck out. It's starting to look like mismanagement of the roster by the HC. Question his moves. Question Bean decimating the receiving corps. Talk about not having any reasonable corner behind White. If they say they're trying to win take them at their word. Edited October 9, 2017 by CuddyDark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) People are acting like we were superbowl favourites and are now 0-4. It was a bad loss but we simply don't have an offense this year, it was never going to go well we all knew that going in. We might still make the damn playoffs for crying out loud. This team isnt making the playoffs. Not with the production our offense is giving. Well be competitive because of the defense and finish with a mediocre record which is probably the worst case scenario. Edited October 9, 2017 by Bangarang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 It will take the franchise QB 2 years to develop after he arrives, hopefully next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) Same as it ever was !!!! Its a damn shame knowing that we've never really sustained success on the defensive side for lengthy periods of time. Edited October 9, 2017 by Captain Murica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Agreed. It's going to take time for Beane to clean up after Whaley. It's not easy to put your team in salary cap jail while simultaneously not paying franchise quarterback money. sorry for the derail Is that picture from FORZA? I keep looking for a Bills theme every time I "purchase" a car. This team isnt making the playoffs. Not with the production our offense is giving. Well be competitive because of the defense and finish with a mediocre record which is probably the worst case scenario. If that is true.... I suggest they make a change NOW. TT is here to WIN games and break the drought. The Defense is light years ahead of last season. There is no reason why the team should have regressed except for the faux QB we have under center. (I'm actually being kind here towards TT) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 sorry for the derail Is that picture from FORZA? I keep looking for a Bills theme every time I "purchase" a car. If that is true.... I suggest they make a change NOW. TT is here to WIN games and break the drought. The Defense is light years ahead of last season. There is no reason why the team should have regressed except for the faux QB we have under center. (I'm actually being kind here towards TT) They wont make the change and they probably shouldnt either. Peterman isnt going to come in and light it up throwing to scrubs. We get it, you dont think Tyrod is any good but you should probably temper those expectations in regards to Peterman. Chances are he sucks too. Hell lrobably start at some point this year but I wouldnt expect it until our playoff chances are gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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