njbuff Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 But McBeane doesn't seem too concerned about it. They even released Powell after his suspension was up. How do you feel about it? Are we overreacting? Are they concerned behind the scenes? Seems like Taylor is working with the same kind of WR corps as last year, but with a much more productive and healthy Clay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 (edited) They are AWFUL; look at their production. You will see the Bills address it. They are absolutely concerned. Edited October 2, 2017 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Who is panicking? Not really, we do need help though. Have you seen our starting WR's though? Easily the worst group is the league without Mathews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sven233 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Tyrod doesn't throw to WRs anyway.....at least through this point in the season. Not sure how much they are really concerned about it. With the amount of targets these guys are getting, maybe they think they can just stick anyone in there and have similar production. That said, I really want a good, fast WR on this team. Would not only open up the passing game, but maybe help clear the box a bit to get this run game going again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Who is panicking? Not really, we do need help though. Have you seen our starting WR's though? Easily the worst group is the league without Mathews. Browns are worse, believe it or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 We has fans panic over everything. Shady isn't rushing like last year. TT only throwing for 200 yards per game. Receivers aren't fast enough, etc. We all think these things to one extent or another yet the team is 3-1 (should be 4-0). I think McD knows how to game plan and Beane brought in a few players that have helped already. Just going to wait and see what he decides to do and then form an opinion. My guess, they aren't going to promote Reilly but Dupre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Tyrod doesn't throw to WRs anyway.....at least through this point in the season. Not sure how much they are really concerned about it. With the amount of targets these guys are getting, maybe they think they can just stick anyone in there and have similar production. That said, I really want a good, fast WR on this team. Would not only open up the passing game, but maybe help clear the box a bit to get this run game going again. Because most of them can't get open or catch a pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 (edited) Browns are worse, believe it or not Equal playing field without Mathews now. At least we have Clay. I just Pray that Zay can set the ship straight. Edited October 2, 2017 by Real McCoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 They are AWFUL; look at their production. You will see the Bills address it. They are absolutely concerned. They were awful before the injury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 But McBeane doesn't seem too concerned about it. They even released Powell after his suspension was up. How do you feel about it? Are we overreacting? Are they concerned behind the scenes? Seems like Taylor is working with the same kind of WR corps as last year, but with a much more productive and healthy Clay. No it's not an overreaction. Powell is likely no great shakes. They needed an upgrade before Matthews injury. WP wasn't likely to bring a modicum of improvement. I hope they are concerned behind the scenes. What I've seen to date leads me to believe they are not and will simply bring up a practice squad WR with zero NFL catches. I'm not sure what their goal is for this season regardless of the 3-1 record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 (edited) But McBeane doesn't seem too concerned about it. They even released Powell after his suspension was up. How do you feel about it? Are we overreacting? Are they concerned behind the scenes? Seems like Taylor is working with the same kind of WR corps as last year, but with a much more productive and healthy Clay. Saying our WR group is in dire straits is no over reaction, its really the worst group in the NFL without Jordan, and even with Jordan we are still a pretty weak group overall. If ZJ can't figure out how to get his act together, we are in real trouble at WR. He's now by default our top guy and he is not the same guy he was in the preseason. His routes are poor, his feet are terrible, and his hands have been atrocious. At least with Jordan out there, you couldn't just completely focus on Clay and McCoy...without Jordan, teams are just gonna double Clay and spy McCoy and challenge our other WRs to beat them and that concerns me. Edited October 2, 2017 by Alphadawg7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Who's panicking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Tyrod doesn't throw to WRs anyway.....at least through this point in the season. Not sure how much they are really concerned about it. With the amount of targets these guys are getting, maybe they think they can just stick anyone in there and have similar production. That said, I really want a good, fast WR on this team. Would not only open up the passing game, but maybe help clear the box a bit to get this run game going again. Because we don't have any...he threw to Woods and Sammy often Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 They were awful before the injuryYep, this certainly didn't make them better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Who's panicking? I am. Bring in Josh Gordon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 I wouldn't be that concerned if Zay could hold onto the ball... who am I kidding, I'm freaking out man... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Of course they are. This winning is not sustainable without Matthews. Who are we left with? Very weak group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 They'll have guys on the field Sunday. From where we'll see. I assume at least one from the practice squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San-O Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Tyrod doesn't throw to WRs anyway.....at least through this point in the season. Not sure how much they are really concerned about it. With the amount of targets these guys are getting, maybe they think they can just stick anyone in there and have similar production. That said, I really want a good, fast WR on this team. Would not only open up the passing game, but maybe help clear the box a bit to get this run game going again. + 1 Bingo It will be fine, for now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 I also think that if Tate isn't going to be active to return kicks and since he's never shown much as a receiver, why not replace him with a reliable receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herb62 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 I liked two kids the Streeter kid and the other little guy that I don't know his name and I don't think he made the practice squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San-O Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 MAYBE start running multiple TE sets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 I liked two kids the Streeter kid and the other little guy that I don't know his name and I don't think he made the practice squad.Shorts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Who is panicking? Not really, we do need help though. Have you seen our starting WR's though? Easily the worst group is the league without Mathews. Obviously someone hasnt seen the Browns. Even with the struggling recieving corps we are still beating elite teams. We should only get better. Eventually Zay will start to catch the balls thrown his way and he will get better with more reps at this level. Think Reilly can be called up and be a Thielen type player for us. McDermott is a big fan of next man up so im sure we will look in house to replace Matthews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins101 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Maybe they are trying to swing a trade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Tyrod doesn't throw to WRs anyway.....at least through this point in the season. Not sure how much they are really concerned about it. With the amount of targets these guys are getting, maybe they think they can just stick anyone in there and have similar production. That said, I really want a good, fast WR on this team. Would not only open up the passing game, but maybe help clear the box a bit to get this run game going again. As others have said, he doesn't have any! Most times they can't get open, and when they do, they can't catch. A couple of years ago, KC went through an entire season without Alex Smith throwing a TD pass to his WRs, and everybody figured Smith was just a check-down sort of guy. Fast forward to 2017 when the Chiefs actually have some speedy, sure-hand wideouts and guess what ... Smith is throwing to them down field!! No it's not an overreaction. Powell is likely no great shakes. They needed an upgrade before Matthews injury. WP wasn't likely to bring a modicum of improvement. I hope they are concerned behind the scenes. What I've seen to date leads me to believe they are not and will simply bring up a practice squad WR with zero NFL catches. I'm not sure what their goal is for this season regardless of the 3-1 record. I'm afraid I have to agree. IMO, the FO is focused on improving the profit margin which is why they traded Watkins this season rather than just letting him play out his rookie contract. They were never going to pay him market rate which is why they didn't pick up his fifth year option, but by trading him and then trading for Matthews they saved a considerable amount in 2017 salary since Watkins was a top 5 pick in his draft class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 This gets me thinking about the Watkins trade again. I absolutely despised it at the time. Still hate it. But one interesting fact that gets overlooked about it is that our total wins line in Vegas didn't move at all after the trade. So the people who do this professionally think either: 1. Taylor isn't that good 2. Watkins isn't that good 3. The wide receiver position isn't that important I think they're both really good so it's probably #3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 (edited) Obviously someone hasnt seen the Browns. Even with the struggling recieving corps we are still beating elite teams. We should only get better. Eventually Zay will start to catch the balls thrown his way and he will get better with more reps at this level. Think Reilly can be called up and be a Thielen type player for us. McDermott is a big fan of next man up so im sure we will look in house to replace Matthews Not really and your the 2nd one to point out the Browns. SO... To date Browns WR's have 35 catches for 454yds To date the Bills WR's have 21 catches for 282yds *Without Mathews, Bills WR's have 11 catches for 120yds Yeah again, the Bills easily have the Worst WR corp in the NFL without Mathews. Edited October 2, 2017 by Real McCoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Not really and your the 2nd one to point out the Browns. SO... To date Browns WR's have 35 catches To date the Bills WR's have 21 catches without Mathews 11. Yeah again, the Bills easily have the Worst WR corp in the NFL without Mathews. please review # of targets to get the full picture. Or, watch a Browns game. But the former is much less painful on the eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Too bad we couldn't have landed Maclin. Crab cakes are overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Kenny Britt is so disgustingly bad I think he's point shaving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 But McBeane doesn't seem too concerned about it. They even released Powell after his suspension was up. How do you feel about it? Are we overreacting? Are they concerned behind the scenes? Seems like Taylor is working with the same kind of WR corps as last year, but with a much more productive and healthy Clay. YOU may be panicking. Yes, they suck, but I've been at this a long time. I will just drink my way through it, then wait until they address it, which they will. It won't be a strength THIS year. I promise. Maybe they are trying to swing a trade? I seriously doubt they give up a single pick for anybody, unless you can get Jerry Rice in his prime for a 5th or lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 (edited) Because most of them can't get open or catch a pass. This. No seperation at all hardly Edited October 3, 2017 by Gunsgoodtime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 (edited) please review # of targets to get the full picture. Or, watch a Browns game. But the former is much less painful on the eyes. So discredit the Browns for actually throwing the Ball to WR's? Yeah their WR's have about 50 extra targets among the core of them through the 1st 4 games, I've seen all the stats I need to. And Again, the Bills have the worst WR core in the NFL without Mathews. No-one here will change my mind on that either. Our current #1 WR has 4 catches on 17 targets for 57 yards through 4 games. What are you not seeing here? I can't stomach a Browns game. And by no means am I saying their WR core is great either. Look at us though, we are in rough shape right now. Edited October 3, 2017 by Real McCoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simool Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Meh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 So discredit the Browns for actually throwing the Ball to WR's? Yeah their WR's have about 50 extra targets among the core of them through the 1st 4 games, I've seen all the stats I need to. And Again, the Bills have the worst WR core in the NFL without Mathews. No-one here will change my mind on that either. Our current #1 WR has 4 catches on 17 targets for 57 yards through 4 games. What are you not seeing here? the Bills don't have a good WR group. However I've watched both and the Browns WRs are much worse. They do not even try to catch the ball or run full routes. Its my opinion and I'm not trying to change your mind. Just stating what I see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Costa Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Id like the Bills to look to trade for a decent WR . Were 3-1 and playing well. I like Brandon Reilly but not sure hes ready for prime time. When Matthews gets back he will have his slot role back in 4 or 5 weeks. In a perfect world we can cut Holmes on week 9 or 10 and get our third round comp pick too. Then resign Holmes the following week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Shorts? I think so. R Streeter? injury settlement ? i forget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Is there a legit #2 WR, who can fill in as our #1 WR, who can be had in the next week or so via trade? We have picks stocked up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 (edited) Is there a legit #2 WR, who can fill in as our #1 WR, who can be had in the next week or so via trade? We have picks stocked up.pierre garçon? Trying to think of bad teams who might do a trade since they are out of it. Edited October 3, 2017 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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